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An advisor to the home office has accused the government of "leaving black youths to die", by cutting funding to community groups.

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27 comments // Government 'leaving black youths to die.'

  • degarmo
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      degarmo  
    • The real core issue which appears to be highlighted time and time again is the lack of sufficient funding to impoverished children.

      No need to single out particular race groups or religious quarrels. The whole system needs more thought-

      remember when we used to think about things?

      child poverty has risen to over 3 million that is an increase from 2005

      and who said make poverty history was not a complete farce?

      Dont you notice the amount of wagering war on everything we do in this country?
      war on crime, terrorism, drugs, knifes,

      why is there no war on homelessness or dying children?

      Perhaps if we stopped piping money to our military and to our churches then perhaps our children may actually have a chance in life

      why single out races, cultures and lifestyle?

      is that not just simply distracting everyone from the real issue at hand

      which is were not funding children in poverty?

    • 4 years ago
  • NeoDotCom
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      NeoDotCom  
    • It's interesting
      Guns appear in the community
      Drugs flow in
      Jobs dissapear
      After school activities dry up

      Then we wonder. What's wrong with that community?
      Hmmmm.....

    • 4 years ago
  • jhydo
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      jhydo  
    • A lot has been eloquently delivered on this issue to warrant a global reorientation in the understanding and inclusion of disadvantaged groups. In my own humble opinion this problem will persist because the core issue which though is more predominant in ethnic communities is not the solely attributed to them. The problem is the nonchalance with which the capitalist society overtly believes the pursuit and creation of wealth would conquer all. They even exhalt trickles from philanthropy like that'll absolve them. A society should deal with these issues before kids start going wayward and not wait until the eleven hour to try effect change. When adults that should know better don't and a system that's meant to protect doesn't the recipe is geared for anarchy. The issue is the same way throughout the world. All societies should start valuing human life a little more over money maybe then we might actually see where we are going wrong as a specie.

    • 4 years ago
  • alicynx
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      alicynx  
    • I suppose that an article on UK measures can have some relevance to US problems, but I don't think that these funding issues are quite as much "on the chopping block" as their UK cousins.
      Being a part of the "majority", I see that there are disadvantages to being any color here in the US, but none so much as the white kids. White kids in the inner cities are not given minority treatment anywhere, even when they are the only one in a school of hundreds. They have no access to special funding because of their race, their families have no advocates when they are discriminated against, and they have no real role models (can you name me one person in our government that you would ever give a child to emulate??). They are repeatedly made to see how crappy the white man has been to the country through the employment of slavery, the coolie system, the civil rights movement, and more; yet nobody comes up to say that its okay to be white in the same way that we celebrate diversity in all of its other forms. I'm not saying that the history of old white men is anything to be proud of, but we're doing nothing to let inner city white youths be empowered either. Racism is rampant on every side of the system here, and we ought to acknowledge that it happens to all kids, and that it is wrong no matter who the finger is pointed toward.
      That said, we all need to wipe the slate clean and start treating everyone equally. You are what you do, and if people don't want to get out and do for themselves, white black, brown or yellow, then they must lie in the bed they've made. The programs available to disadvantaged people of color in the US is outstanding - if you don't believe me, spend a couple of days at your local DHS office and see the program outlines they have - and if people use them properly they will get out of poverty. That, and the FAFSA sees no skin color when awarding college grants. There is no external reason that every inner-city child can't go to college. Getting through high school may depend on the parents, but college is not out of reach for anyone, especially disadvantaged youth.

    • 4 years ago
  • scm23
  • Nuevarine
  • clayjj05
  • needu
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      needu  
    • I find some of these comments so right on but I am confused. If this is what people believe in, then why would you give your support to someone that I have only heard say that he "supports the Bush faith based" idea? Bush took away the funding for these programs that Clinton (Mr.) and Gore were giving money to (since he had a surplus and all), even though they were proven to work, and decided that the churches and the volunteers should be the ones responsible for these programs, which we see isnt working. And our new candidate said he too supports that. But the candidate that wanted to go back to helping these kids was rejected?

    • 4 years ago
  • JudahEvan
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      JudahEvan  
    • needu:

      I don't believe Faith Based Initiatives are the overall problem. They fill a gap. Ideological Conservatives are more than willing to 'starve' government programs to have private quasi-public funded Religious groups do just that, fill the gap. As a Capitalist society, all institutions and entities that fill a role are important and vital. The private and religious sectors have a role in providing for underdeveloped communities, no doubt. I have no problem with Obama, a community organizer, seeing that as part of the answer.

      But I agree that the problem as a whole must be solved through our government processes (especially considering there is a strong argument that funding Faith Based Initiatives with our tax dollars is unconstitutional). Education is the problem. Basic social services are the problem. Drugs and Gangs are the problems. And Bush's neo-conservative cronies have done everything in their power to stall any mobility within these 'walled' ghettos. Government was once an answer; to them, it is the problem. So where do we go with that?

      I dunno.

    • 4 years ago
  • street_smart
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      street_smart  
    • i think what their saying is, the community programs in the "hood" are going to be shut down, ive seen it already here in west palm, they shut down the YMCA and Boys and Girls Club here in west palm, but they got like 4 of them on the extra good side of town, and not only the YMCA and Boys and Girls Club, but here, in the white neighborhoods, they have other programs like Teen Center and Skateboard Facilities, u can come in without a BMX bike, skateboard, or something along those lines. Its just like in the hood out here, there tearing down the houses in the ghetto to bring up the properity value so high noone can even afford to stay in the house they've been in for 15-20 + years., they call it Project Gardens (Gardens is a county here thats the nicest and expensive county, and guess what, only white people seem to live there)....soo.....

    • 4 years ago
  • flyingkick
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      flyingkick  
    • kaf, you should be angry at the feds for taking your money and making bombs to blow up the middle east, which is where most of your money goes.

      The amount of your income that actually goes to funding community programs is negligible.

    • 4 years ago
  • ultravphunter
  • aaronklong
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      aaronklong  
    • To be quite honest this is not a surprise, or even something that can even be fully explained to allies of the Black community or even the People of Color Community as a whole.
      People of color make up a majority of the population in the inner cities, and the ethnic group that suffers the most statistically is the Black Community. I am not saying that races or ethnic groups do not suffer, because if you are a Person of Color you are automatically placed at a disadvantage in social constructs, no matter how much you believe in the United States government, myth of meritocracy, or just plan old luck.

      All of this traces back to history, and Black folks were purposely abused, mistreated, misunderstood, and neglected from the beginning of the birth of the stars and stripes. There is no more slavery with whips and picking cotton any more; however, there is what some call "modern day slavery." Blacks are only a small piece of the population, but are the endures of constant and utter disadvantages everyday more than any other racial group on as big of a scale as they do.

      Educational dropout rates, violence, imprisonment, drugs, poverty, low wages, single parent households, are all things that rain down upon the Black Community, and the main reason and what it all comes down to are resources. If a community doesn't have adequate resources, they cannot flourish. If you don't have the proper funding for youth programs like this article so well illustrated, then how are people and more importantly youth supposed to empower themselves if they are stripped of something that can help them?

      The resources to help communities should be given no matter what race you are; however, some need more than others, and in the United States case, the Black Community needs a lot of help. As a member of the Black Community, I agree with what the title of this article is stating. Without the proper resources, the youth of the Black Community, whome will eventually turn to the adults, have no where to turn to except for what's around them in their community, and considering their is not a whole lot or positive, you have no choice to turn to negative. If you don't have anything you can only fight so much, and strive so much to make it in the lime light, but in the end if you can't flourish and can't survive, you will die, and it is sad to see that there can't be more given to help people survive.

    • 4 years ago
  • eldamon
  • kaffegeek
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      kaffegeek  
    • why is this question even asked ? government is not their parents. government did not give them birth.

      they have no right to take my posessions or part of my weekly pay any more than i have a right to take from a bank.

      as to tax cuts for "the wealthy" 50% of the population dont pay tax, they recieve .

      whenever the tax rate is lowered ,investment and job growth and tax revenue go up. too bad we elect politicians who always spend even more.

    • 4 years ago
  • JudahEvan
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      JudahEvan  
    • kaffegeek:

      "as to tax cuts for "the wealthy" 50% of the population dont pay tax, they recieve . "

      That's just a lie. Nothing more. Forget that everybody pays tax when they buy anything (as long as you don't buy everything in Delaware) and forget that payroll tax effects all low level employees of any corporation before they get their paycheck, that shit is just a lie. I defy you to prove that statement in any way without any qualifications -- that exactly 150 million Americans pay no tax. Do it. Then we will talk.

      And as for your second factually inaccuracy: lauding 'trickle down' economics is so blindly ideological that I laughed out loud when I read your shit. Of course you think that works, it's what FauxNews says and what Reagan says. The exact opposite, however, is true. Cutting taxes in no way raises revenue. That is a classic neo-liberal talking point that only works in 'optimal rate' graphs. Lowering certain tax rates can create certain types of jobs in certain areas, but on the whole you are just parroting disproved talking points. And it is "too bad" that we elect politicians who spend more, too bad they cut taxes at the same time in order to 'starve the beast'; the politicians who cut taxes and spend more are the same type, but I"m a little confused as to which type you support. (Well I'm actually not, I'm just trying to point out how backwards and hypocritical your positions are).

      It is so obvious how little you know about economics and how blind you are to our current fiscal crisis caused by the very policies you just endorsed. Instead of talking about the facts, you wax poetic about a fallen and disgraced economic theory that you have no idea has fallen for FauxNews wont tell you.

      Oh, and what about the post, ya know: the millions of Americans left to live in squalid conditions with absolutely no opportunity?? I guess they just look different from you so there is no reason to feel compassion. And nobody is talking about 'class warfare' or anything, they are just talking about funding the things, like schools and roads, that are funded in more well off, predominantly white communities. Is that too much?

    • 4 years ago
  • Neghie
  • aaronklong
  • Magnitude06
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      Magnitude06  
    • kaffegeek:

      By stating that Government is not our parents and they didn't give birth to us is a mis lead statement. Because in fact this country owes a great deal to the less fortunate people of this country that died in their name. Slavery and the large amounts of Native land taken have created burdens that this Government created. We didn't ask to be oppressed and taken advantage of, it was all apart of the "Manifest Destiny". So essentially the birth of our urban ghettos are the products of our Government. Don't mean to come off pissed off but how can we move forward if there are still some people that don't even think this is a reasonable debate.

    • 4 years ago
  • clayjj05
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      clayjj05 [removed]  
    • kaffegeek:

      people who make under 20k a year pay like 200 dollars. My father made 700k last year and had to give almost half. My father also works harder than "most of the people" making 20k a year. Why should he have to pay to support someones kids when he wont give me money?

    • 4 years ago
  • JudahEvan
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      JudahEvan  
    • kaffegeek:

      Oh clayjj, thanks for chiming in with the personal experience to make us all feel sorry for you, or was that not your intention? This has nothing to do with the extreme rhetorical mess that you and 'responsibility' spouting conservatives like you get yourself into. This is a Bermuda triangle of neo-conservative bullying and I won't have it. You make unbelievable grand generalizations about people who "work hard" versus people who don't, when that is completely out of scope. The truth is, people sometimes need help. I'm not talking about raiding your bedroom to look for the loot under the mattress nor am I talking about raising taxes. This is about government doing what it must to address the criminal negligence that is assigned our American inner-Cities. Something I'm sure you know nothing about. You are just grasping for a theoretical extremes, like all other neo-cons who trash government as the problem, in order to justify your selfishly naive policy positions.

      Your father giving you money or not is completely irrelevant Clayjj. I can't believe you think we care or even that it is in any way a significant point. Grow up clayjj, stop talking about yourself, and realize not all people are just like you.

      And if you read my previous post, you'd see how the actual tax issues at hand here were addressed and proven antiquated; notice how it wasn't framed in some pathetically childish and factually-void dribble statement, like in the way that you have tried to force the conversation to mire us all up in some shit.

    • 4 years ago
  • Neghie
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      Neghie  
    • I sincerely hope those who give a damn about our social welfare plan on voting democrat this year. Tax cuts for the wealthy don't usually help fund these programs for those kids in less fortunate situations.

    • 4 years ago
  • SeanFennel
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      SeanFennel  
    • Neghie:

      No matter how you feel about tax breaks for corporations, what party you support, or what you feel about the inner city, you should take a close look at the facts about what you are saying before you jot something down for all to see.

      Most corporations give millions of dollars a month, and in the case of Target, millions per week.

      Take a look at the charitable contributions of corporations and programs many of these companies are involved in or started. Most help the youths of our nations and the less privileged.

      What pains me about your statement is that it is total spin based upon what you hear from the cable news, the politicians, and PACs. Don't sound too much like a pod person when it comes to this stuff, the only way one will know the truth is to seek it out.

      I don't mean to single you out, but the news, this site, and so much more talk about the most insignificant things and don't pay attention to actual facts like: corporations and individuals in this nation do more for the less fortunate than the Federal, State, and local governments combined. If you don't believe me, there is a multitude of articles, websites, organizations and even our own government to tell us so.

    • 4 years ago
  • Magnitude06
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      Magnitude06  
    • Hey white kids are being left out but there is a deeper concern for African American kids because of the higher concentration of violence centered in the inner city. Everything trickles down in a Recession and the ones hit hard by it are the VERY less fortunate. White kids fall victims to the streets but lets face it Community is the key........if your neighborhood is surrounded by drug culture and gang violence you are more likely to fall victim to those vices. (no matter ethinicity) Add in factors such as poor education and poor wages this leads to a since of hopelessness. I'm only talking about it from my standpoint because thats all I've ever experienced.........but let me just say we can't ignore problems that will effect all of us in the long run.....meaning if we don't invest in young adults then we will be troubled with their short comings........its up to us.....well really its up to the government to rebuild the inner city along with the families....NOT moving them out in replace of BIG BUSINESS corporate interest. Peace

    • 4 years ago
  • JanaPokana
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      JanaPokana  
    • Exactly! This is not really a matter of neglecting BLACK youths, but children and teenagers in general. I also think that it is a little overdramatic to equate a cut in funding with a death sentence ...

    • 4 years ago
  • rwylie
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      rwylie  
    • I don't know if they are directly neglecting black youths with the funding cuts, but they would also be neglecting white youths with the cuts.

    • 4 years ago
  • jhydo
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      jhydo  
    • rwylie:

      The question is to what proportion is the neglected area populated by 'ethnics' in relation to the norm..? Then correlate that to the effects of funding starvation to the area.

    • 4 years ago
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