News and Politics | September 03, 2008 | 50 comments

McCain, Palin, and the meaning of "choice"

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In the news release, the McCain campaign made sure to state that:

Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.

While it's obvious why they made this statement to assure the public that Bristol was not coerced into keeping the baby (after all, she does have a parent who is a staunch opponent of the right to choose and is currently on the Republican presidential ticket), as my significant other pointed out, there's some serious hypocrisy at play here. I mean, John McCain and Sarah Palin don't believe women have a right to choose. It's absolutely absurd for the campaign to emphasize the fact that Bristol "made this decision," and then push for policies that take away that choice.

In reality, Bristol's actual "choice" was probably not whether to terminate the pregnancy or carry it to term, but whether raise the child herself or put it up for adoption. But the reason that the McCain campaign chose to emphasize Bristol's agency in this decision was to reassure the public that this pregnancy is not coercive. They know the public wants to feel secure in the knowledge that it was Bristol's choice to keep the pregnancy. And coming from the McCain campaign, which opposes a woman's right to choose, that statement is disgusting. As Kate Sheppard wrote in In These Times recently, during the 2000 primary McCain said that if his daughter got pregnant it would be a "family decision":

"The final decision would be made by Meghan with our advice and counsel," McCain said, referring to himself and his wife, Cindy. When reporters suggested that this view made him, in fact, pro-choice, McCain became irritated. "I don't think it is the pro-choice position to say that my daughter and my wife and I will discuss something that is a family matter that we have to decide."

In other words: My family and my daughter deserve a choice, but no other woman can be trusted with this decision. This fits nicely with the narrative on both Palin's decision to carry her Down's syndrome child to term and her daughter's decision to carry her own pregnancy to term. Their decisions are seen by the antichoice Republican base as affirmation that Palin shares their values. But the underlying message that each woman had a choice is a validation of pro-choice values.
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  • YouthRadio
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      YouthRadio  
    • Hey, check out our video on the conservative response to Bristol Palin's pregnancy and whether or not getting married young promotes strong families. Vote and comment if you have a minute. Thanks!

    • 3 years ago
  • nugget08
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      nugget08  
    • I love how everyone is so quick to judge. No matter what side you are on the girl is pregnant. So what...it's the consequence for having unprotected sex! I see Palin as being dissappointed with her daughter..as a parent you always hope your children would make the right decisions. Sometimes they don't. How do we know Bristol even contiplated abortion? Here we are slamming each other over our decisions...what good are we doing? I think we might be screwed no matter who we choose as president. Americans have gotten out of control...are we not so quick to point fingers and judge, judge, judge...Political games...

    • 3 years ago
  • eldamon
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      eldamon  
    • The operative term the media completely whiffed on was "CHOICE". Bristol had the right to make a CHOICE on her own as to what she wished to do with her body. That's all proponents of choice are supporting. Not trying to impose their morals or political will on others but to let individuals CHOOSE what is right for them, just like Bristol Palin did.

    • 3 years ago
  • keeshii768
  • metalcookiesxy70
  • justright
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      justright  
    • To top it off she now has to go through a shotgun wedding with a guy that doesn't want children (from his myspace page). Religions repression sucks.

    • 3 years ago
  • Bravura
  • mrburns
  • renagadeoffunk74
  • Taco47
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      Taco47  
    • I know the father probably has been coerced too!! He'll decide marriage after they tell him he'll be taken care of $ wise and power wise. Yeah I'd marry her too if her mommy provided $ for the wedding/house/and child care for years to come.

    • 3 years ago
  • FallenMorgan
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • Fools on parade.

      Oh wow, they let the clueless 17 year-old make the decision herself. Did they let her make the decision to have sex herself too? Did they explain she hasn't seen anything life has to offer yet? What about Jesus? Doesn't he specifically say don't have sex until you are at least legally an adult and capable of handling the consequences in the Bible? Why? Why not just let her run the country while she's at it?

      What about the unborn child's right to be brought into the world as WANTED? Who was standing up for that?

      If it were me, I would rather be aborted any day and wait for the next time at bat rather than have my innocent life brought into the world in compromised circumstance.

      Since apparently celebrities are the only ones that matter in our society according to the TV, I'll use them as an example. How many famous and therefore "important" people have been lost to abortion? NONE, because they didn't exist!

      Hmmm...guess sex isn't so much fun when it comes with the ultimate life-long ball and chain attached to it.

      Poor kid.

      One minute you're watching your role models on TV having fun and getting knocked up, the next minute you are in the nation's spotlight as a example of what not to do.

      Yep, I guess we saw this coming.

      This is exactly why I won't sleep with a girl without having "the abortion talk" first as a "WCS" (Worst Case Scenario) back-up plan and why I'm terrified to bring a child into the world in today's culture.

      Two words people: Self control.

      It's really upsetting that even the "good" brainwashed-for-their-own-good Christian girls are apparently complete hypocrites. With all the religious nonsense indoctrinated into you, what good is it if it doesn't even prevent you from getting pregnant while still in school and living at home?

      Seriously, that's some pretty ineffective programming.

      Well, at least it puts the whole drama (and ultimately the entire story) front and center so hopefully they can guilt and shame other girls that are doing the things that lead to getting "preggies" so young to think twice.

      It a shame to see so many lives broken in this way.

      The one silver lining might be that everyone involved is so lucky, naive, and sheltered that they get married and stay married for life based on Palin's childhood sweetheart story. Still, I think it is insanely irresponsible to believe the rest of the world behaves that way (watch TV for Christ's sake) and make governmental policies as such.

      When expected to live up to your own higher moral or intellectual standards, people will fail you everytime.

    • 3 years ago
  • fountaingoats
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      fountaingoats  
    • damnneargenius:

      I want to agree with you because we eventually come down on the same side of the issue, but this bothers me: "hopefully they can guilt and shame other girls that are doing the things that lead to getting 'preggies' so young to think twice."

      You think the solution is to GUILT and SHAME young girls into not getting pregnant? So you basically support public humiliation of teenage girls for getting pregnant? What about comprehensive sex education that teaches teens - both girls AND boys - about the various methods of contraception? This story shouldn't be an attack on Bristol, or even, as I said in a comment on another thread, a judgment of Sarah Palin for being a bad mother. Leave the judgments on the poor girl out of it - this should be about her mother's failed policy views and the hypocrisy that even a "good Christian family" can't uphold the unrealistic expectations of Christian conservatives..

    • 3 years ago
  • CreditFigaro
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      CreditFigaro  
    • damnneargenius:

      I just hope against hope that she doesn't try to "fall down the stairs" or some other BS because of the fact that this "decision" will effectively end her childhood, and eliminate her twenties.

      This is a sad issue and what is worse, it doesn't even really hold any religious steam.

      We have a nice little thing called the internet these days, and, should someone who believes this crap tell you a verse of the bible defending their position, you can usually pull up that verse, read a page before and a page after for context, and USUALLY find contextual issues that you can debate with this person.

      It's kind of an interesting exercise, regardless of your religious background.

      In closing, I will also state that abortions are still legal, and therefore the daughter still has a "choice" legally. The republicans just don't believe in choice, that doesn't mean that they have different rights than anyone else.

      Regardless, this is a distraction issue designed to bring abortion to the forefront and ignite the republican base. Tread carefully people, democrats may hang themselves with this issue.

    • 3 years ago
  • FallenMorgan
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • damnneargenius:

      If Bristol wanted an abortion, she would have gotten one. Is everyone here too old to remember being 17?

      When I was 17 no one could tell me what to do or how to do it. Do you think that has changed?

      Come on guys, pick a real issue.

    • 3 years ago
  • LarzNero
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      LarzNero  
    • I have been and continue to be enraged that Ms. Palin is anti-abortion EVEN IN CASES OF RAPE.

      That is obscene. It sounds facetious, but I really think that an unreasonable non-compassionate view like that is equal to having a "More Rapists, Please!" platform.

      Given a choice, some people would choose to have a baby. That's what McCain-Palin don't understand. All they're advocating is anti-freedom.

    • 3 years ago
  • fountaingoats
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      fountaingoats  
    • LarzNero:

      At the time that Palin said "I would choose life," Bristol was 14 years old. This woman would force her 14 year old daughter to either let her peers assume she was sexually active (and be branded an "irresponsible whore" and who knows what else by her own socially-conservative community), or force her daughter to publicly talk about her rape.

      What a mom!

    • 3 years ago
  • crob80227
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      crob80227  
    • I think Bristol was given a clear choice. I'm sure after informing her mother of the situation she was given a choice of items she'd prefer to be beaten with.

      Inbetween strikes I'm sure Sarah Palin would pause to read passages from the Bible while screaming, "Whore!"

      Okay, okay. That may be a little unfair, but its just the impression I get of the ultra-conservative, ultra-religious Sarah Palin.

      Hugs and reassurances that she'll stand by her daughter no matter what?

      I really don't get that vibe.

      A 15min beating with a wire hanger? I definitely see that as a more likely response from our "regular Hockey Mom aint-she-just-like-us?" Sarah.

    • 3 years ago
  • tanyetta
  • Vierotchka
  • drumguy08
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      drumguy08  
    • I believe that Senator Biden made the best analysis of this whole situation.

      Children should be OFF LIMITS when looking into the background of nominees and their picks! How would you like it if you went to a job interview and and your possible employer wanted to probe YOUR children?!

    • 3 years ago
  • Neghie
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      Neghie  
    • drumguy08:

      Drumguy,

      It's not about her pregnant daughter. It's about Palin's hypocritical stance on a woman's right to choose. You want to overturn roe v. wade, you want to teach our kids abstinence only? Well if it doesn't even work in your own house, why would you roll it out to the rest of the country? We can't just sweep this situation under the rug as much as guys would love too. It stinks too much.

    • 3 years ago
  • Taco47
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      Taco47  
    • drumguy08:

      Hey I absolutely agree w/ you there. It seems more of a what do they call that PURPOSEFUL decision that McCain knew before he elected her as V.P. he had to have known about her daughter!!!! It just gets everyones attention good or bad! And he needed a spotlight on his campaign no matter what or who he exploited (teenage mothers) as well as reconfirming his staunch republican stand on abortion.

    • 3 years ago
  • fountaingoats
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      fountaingoats  
    • drumguy08:

      Right, this is not analogous to prying into someone's children's lives when you go in for a job interview. She is running for the second highest office in the country, and could easily end up being president. She's staunchly against abortion and comprehensive sex education that teaches teens about birth control, and is in general part of the Christian right that typically characterizes teen girls who get pregnant as "irresponsible whores." Yet her own daughter is pregnant, proof that this doesn't just happen to promiscuous teens, it can happen to anyone even with a good upbringing. It shows that her expectation of abstinence until marriage is completely unrealistic.

      So yes, it absolutely matters. It wouldn't matter that Larry Craig is gay if he wasn't against gay rights, but he is, so it does.

    • 3 years ago
  • intelligenceisacurse
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      intelligenceisacurse  
    • Sarah Palin governs her family.
      Sarah Palin has say in what happens in her house.
      She's the boss.

      We know how she feels, she tells us.
      She has to, she's a politician.

      So in her house, abortion is not an option.
      When she was asked if her own daughter was raped,
      if she would allow an abortion, she said, "I would choose life."

      Bristol has NO OPTION.
      Bristol did NOT MAKE ANY DECISION.

      She's 17, she's a kid, living in her parent's house.
      She has to do what they say.

      And Sarah Palin says keep the baby, even if it's from rape.

      Sarah Palin is fighting to remove the right to choose from women.
      Even for her own daughter, and there's no doubt about it.

      So why would it be different in her home?

      So the Republicans are praising that they gave the
      daughter a choice? Yet they want to take that choice
      away?

      Is there anything more hypocritical than this?

    • 3 years ago
  • gp5241
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      gp5241  
    • I hate to bring this up but are we totally sure that Sarah did not cover up for one of the two daughter's being preggy.

      We the People have been so badly treated by the press and both political parties that perhaps we have reached the point where we finally admit that our government is run by utter sleaze-bags and we can trust none of them, since they believe they are above the law and entitled to do anything since they are protected by the rich and powerful.

    • 3 years ago
  • Taco47
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      Taco47  
    • gp5241:

      That is the sad part. People that would be democrats have just thrown up their hands, especially younger people living in poverty. They just plain hate ALL POLITICIANS because of the bad ones. And even worse is those white boys who've been incarcerated: they are taught racism in prison and come out believing Obama is worse than McCain simply because he is bi-racial. Obama needs to appeal to the poor using medical marijuanna or something creative in a very discreet way as to not attract the conservatives but the younger street generation. Otherwise they'll continue to believe nothing will ever change.

    • 3 years ago
  • MeganMcKenzie
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      MeganMcKenzie  
    • A woman's right to choose is hers alone and for no one else. Are we really going to allow the Republicans to decide this issue for us and to continue their world endangering energy policies?

      The polls are not looking very favorable and if we do not take action we will have a government of McCain/Palin and that would be one hell of a nightmare.

    • 3 years ago
  • crob80227
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      crob80227  
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    • I'm sure Sarah Palin would have loved and supported her daughter even if she had made the decision to get an abortion.

      Right? Right?

      Yeah, right!

      Had her daughter even DARED mention the word in her mothers prescence I'm sure the police would have been called by concerned neighbors who heard someone getting beaten with a fireplace poker.

      Whenever I try to envision Bristol telling her mother she was pregnant I keep flashing on scenes from "Mommie Dearest."

      "No wire hangars!"

      WHAP! WHAP! WHAP!

    • 3 years ago
  • Nettle
  • tanyetta
  • justright
  • Gtarfr3ak
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      Gtarfr3ak  
    • 'Shotgun wedding is case of wife or death' I feel bad for the guy, I highly doubt he is quite ready to marry this girl.. but I guess it's all part of being anti-choice.. at least divorce isn't illegal yet!

      I don't know, the whole thing seems scandalous to me.. First people aren't sure if the 5th child is Palin's, now they come out and say the daughter in pregnant now to try to combat rumors she was pregnant before.. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the debates are now to be held on the Maury show.

    • 3 years ago
  • justright
  • CreditFigaro
  • isnamthere
  • Vierotchka
  • meanie
  • fountaingoats
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      fountaingoats  
    • justright:

      @meanie, that's all well and good, but we don't know the circumstances. Maybe the condom broke. Who knows. If that's the case, then the daughter is just screwed since her mom is famous and so openly against abortion. It's quite possible that without comprehensive sex education (which Sarah Palin is openly against), Bristol and her boyfriend didn't know how to use a condom properly, increasing the risk that it could break.

      Teen pregnancy does not necessarily mean the teens in question acted irresponsibly. It can happen to anyone. That's a point that the Christian right doesn't seem to believe, which is why this story is so interesting.

    • 3 years ago
  • justright
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      justright  
    • The republicans believe that you have the right to choose what they have decided for you. This decision process begins with abortion and soon will cover all aspects of your life.

    • 3 years ago
  • fountaingoats
  • rube
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      rube  
    • The Palin child’s pregnancy is a microcosm of the difference between the two idealologies-

      education vs. abstinence

      evolution vs. creationism

      diplomacy vs. arbitrary war

      intelligence vs. narcissism

      science and liberty vs. right-wing self righteousness

      The GOP know as the party of family values is no longer! You only have to got to the leader George W Bush to know why- it was Bush that killed the GOP party no one else! The hypocrites are among us they are the neocons!

      Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
      The choice is more clear than ever!

    • 3 years ago
  • pattik
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      pattik  
    • First, let me say I am no fan of McCain's.

      I think we need to make a distinction between "choice" (whether or not to actually continue a pregnancy) "choices" (e.g. keep the baby, adoption). This isn't about "choice" for his daughter's imagined pregnancy; this is about choosing amongst adoption or parenthood. I don't think abortion even entered into his thinking, nor would he allow his daughter to have an abortion (which in Arizona he could do, due to the parental consent laws there). Bristol Palin, as an Alaskan citizen, could have chosen an abortion, as the laws there are not restrictive to minors. I was surprised to see this, as I would have thought maverick Sarah Palin would have made it a priority to amend those laws.

      This article makes a lot of assumptions about all parties concerned. I think it is critically important to remember that the decision to terminate a pregnancy is a highly personal, sensitive and private one. All of this speculation about Bristol Palin's motives are just that, speculation.

    • 3 years ago
  • fountaingoats
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      fountaingoats  
    • pattik:

      Actually, the question was asked specifically with regards to abortion. It was not a discussion about whether to adopt or keep the baby.

      I've linked to an article from 2000, it seems some reporter (not sure from which media outlet) asked what would happen if his daughter was pregnant and WANTED an abortion.

      I also don't think that this is "speculation," we're not guessing what Bristol Palin's motives are, but rather criticizing what the McCain campaign has publicly said - which was that it was Bristol's decision, i.e. there was no coercion. Simply making that statement is hypocritical when you don't think it should've been Bristol's decision at all.

      Lastly, adoption is of course a viable choice, but I see it as a secondary choice that falls under the latter of the two primary choices of ending the pregnancy versus carrying it to term.

      Link didn't seem to work, here it is: http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/26/mccain.abortion/

    • 3 years ago
  • seanalyn
  • huntre
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      huntre  
    • The US continues to have an inner war between those who try to control with customized interpretations of "The Word" and those who refuse to be told what to believe or how to live.
      Abortion? Gays? Both hotbed issues.
      Europe murdered their most religious fanatics and shipped the rest overseas to the US a few hundred years ago.
      We've been fighting amongst ourselves ever since.
      (insert "The More You Know" theme here)

    • 3 years ago
  • Beta_Boy
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      Beta_Boy  
    • Maybe I am mistaken but would appear that abortion is a much bigger issue in the US than it is in Europe. The rights of a woman to choose is not something that would be debated at an election. I don't believe the state has any right to interfere in this family issue (and I would bet that most of the UK and Europe would agree).

      Does this make us bleeding heart liberals?

    • 3 years ago
  • mario_a
  • neocongo
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      neocongo  
    • Beta_Boy:

      It is a big issue only because Republicans have time and time again used it as a wedge to separate off part of the Left. And the occasional right wing abortion clinic bomber.

    • 3 years ago
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