US: RNC cops brutally suppress press freedom
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A personal friend of mine was arrested and treated with shocking inhumanity by the police officers breaking up a legal protest at the RNC. A member of the press (working with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now!) who posed no threat to anyone, she was shoved to the ground and attacked for having the temerity to bear witness to the harsh tactics being used against the protesters around her.
I've heard more stories of the lengths the forces up in MN have been going to crack down on American citizens (basically treating them as "enemy combatants" for exercising their Constitutionally-protected rights), but this is the most potent evidence I've seen of how far things have gone.
What kind of national security is this?
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If you want to take action, another friend of mine has a list of things you can do:
If you could sign this letter to protest the arrest and charges against Nicole Salazar, violently arrested while doing her duty as Press at the RNC:
https://secure.freepress.net/site/Advocacy?id=281
Also sign this petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/tell-a-friend/1575604
You can watch the videos of her and Amy Goodman's arrests here on CPJ:
http://cpj.org/blog/2008/09/democracy-now-journalists-arrested-at-rnc-in-minne.p...
To write a letter in support of dropping the charges:
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2008/9/3/call_to_action_on_behalf_of_dn_journal...
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ACrisisinAmerica
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NATIONAL STRIKE DAY PROPOSED!
Dear Americans,
I would like to propose a "NATIONAL STRIKE DAY" for every American that is able. I have heard France has been doing this with great success. Please let us get everyone engaged here and anywhere we can post this message or one of your own.
The Questions I would ask here are as follows: What day should it be and when and how often? Once a month to start or? I believe this would really give the people back their power in this country. It is time to take action! If we do not take some action now as our Declaration of Independence says we have the right and obligation to, it looks like our country will fall.
People are losing their homes by the millions, and jobs of course with it, and our government with the media's help are trying to hide it from us. They are going to let us just fall, we have to save ourselves, to many good people's lives are being ruined.
This is the responsibility of a free people. Be sure the world bankers have a diabolical plan for us and unless we truly want to be slaves, we have to do something. I am open to other ideas, or maybe someone is already doing this (I heard something). I plead with each American here on Twitter to get involved and support this idea, and everywhere else we can get this message out.
This will be a peaceful way to get our government's attention, while we take back our country. Trust me if George Washington and the many honorable men and women who fought our war of Independence were here today, they would have already taken action years ago, many years ago, and I doubt it would be very peaceful.
Thus, no one works until our demands are met. Start with say five or ten demands. So my idea, proposal is that Americans just go to the street, your city hall, or what is ever appropriate in your state. No one works until our demands are met. But absolutely No violence, no vandalism, no matter what please. That will destroy our honest political cause afforded us by our constitution. In fact, we should make, in my opinion that it is a very somber and quite sit in, almost complete silence until our demands are met, so they cannot try and intimidate people or arrest them unlawfully as they have been doing. I believe this is very important point, no conflict what so ever, just freeze everything. We are all allowed to stay home from work. We need to get employers involved obviously.
My list of demands start as follows:
1.) No more bail outs, but instead money is to be given directly to the American people.
I heard some experts are saying that this is the only real cure, some 450,000.00 to each American is the answer to our financial crisis. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?=263212.) Abolish the IRS, period!
3.) Reinstate our fourth Amendment rights.
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I hope others will give their suggestions. I would recommend we elect a board and thus work to organize our first AMERICAN NATIONAL STRIKE DAY, or if someone has already started this, please if anyone is aware of this let me know.
Sincere hope for our beloved nation,
Stephen Paine - 3 years ago
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ACrisisinAmerica
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GlobalPunditOrg
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i was there w/ rnc and dnc credentials also covering the ron paul and nader rallies and protests - this was my third 2-party cycle and it was the worst yet as far as police, nat'l guard, private security, ss, etc.
was stringing for radio - nbc, cbs, npr, cbs, cox, etc. as well as print and photo...some serious madness for sure
was working w/ theuptake.org and we got crazy footage too
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GlobalPunditOrg
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I_like_facts
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American Constitution- The Bill of Rights- Amendment I:
gives: Right of the PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE!! when some (I said some) of those people broke that right they forfeit all their rights (to be treated fairly) Throwing stones at shop keepers windows, blowing up someone else's car and throwing shit at anyone apposing what they are saying/doing- I don't see these acts condoned in the constitution. It is inevitable and sad that innocent people are going to get hurt in a large riot, blame the pathetic excuse for an "acting out" protester for any innocent peacefully assembled protester being hurt!!!!! "we want peace for this country but we will riot to get it" Hypocrites!!! - 3 years ago
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I_like_facts
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YouthRadio
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Here's some more footage from the protests at the Republican National Convention on Labor Day.
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YouthRadio
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walkingfree
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This is the same c*#p that happened in 1968 at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. History repeats itself. It just switches sides once in awhile to make it interesting.
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walkingfree
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bmltv
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This video shows those of us who love our country why we now live in a foreign land...
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bmltv
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flatlandprometheus
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the truest form of american patriotism is being torn to shreds at the rnc. whatever happened to our duty and responsibility to question our country through dedicated journalism?
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flatlandprometheus
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Dmitri_Molotov
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Shit. Now I'm just plain angry.
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Dmitri_Molotov
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jh64487
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the irony is that it is now the conservatives who have lost what it means to be american. I bet the majority of the neo-cons on this site have at least 3 flags in front of their house.
they just forgot what those flags mean.
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jh64487
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AreOh
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Whether you think it was dramatized or not, this is America. Our countries identity is based on the citizenry being able to voice their discontent. History is replete with examples of this. Those the question the history of protest in our country are simply ignorant of their own history. I question the patriotism of anyone who defends these criminal acts against citizens who gather for peaceful protest. We are supposed to be an example of freedom to the world. This only demonstrates how far away we are getting from that ideal.
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AreOh
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pissedoffinarkansas
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What the fuck is your point GraveLehr? They were locked up for conducting a peaceful protest. And I don't want to hear no bullshit about "unlawful protests". That just means they didn't get "DAH Fuehrer's" permission. This is how they control WHO gets to protest and WHAT they can protest.
This shit angers me to the point that I could just scream, and people like YOU want to discuss the Semantics of prison and jail? Come on man!!!
Sorry about the language for all of you with virgin ears but this pisses me off.
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pissedoffinarkansas
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GraveLehr
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pissedoffinarkansas:
It pisses you off that people went to jail for not adhering to the law?
May I remind you sir, that you have to get a permit for protesting as not to disrupt the flow of travel, or business.
Unfortunately they broke the law, and do to the flammable nature of many of the protesters they had to treat everybody as a threat. While unfortunate, if you really want to blame anybody, blame those protesters who got out of control.
I apologize your too dense to understand that..
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GraveLehr
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pissedoffinarkansas
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pissedoffinarkansas:
I feel sorry for you that you've bought into their bullsh-t excuses. It's because of people like you that we have "laws" like the UNpatriot act.
Dense indeed sir!
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pissedoffinarkansas
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AreOh
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pissedoffinarkansas:
It's interesting you mention the 'flammable' nature of the protests. It is possible to diffuse a situation without the wanton use of violence that we have seen. And the comment about adhering to the law in a protest is erroneous. Why? Because it is a protest. While there is something to be said concerning protesters who go to far, that still does not excuse the brutal treatment of the majority of individuals who came to protest peaceful. This is America. And if these 'laws' turn out to remove our rights and privileges as citizens of this country, then there should be protests. This is a very basic concept. A tenement of the society that you yourself live in. Your attitude towards this only demonstrates that lack context and understanding of what is being protested. Perhaps you are comfortable with the repealing of civility and the humane treatment of our citizens. Many, thankfully, do not share your views. What you call 'dense', I would call expressing concern for our fellow citizens who are being obviously mistreated. It saddens some such as yourself would even defend this blatant contradiction of the precepts our nation. And we wonder why our country is the state that it is in.
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AreOh
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pissedoffinarkansas:
While I understand, and can plainly see they where being mistreated, the fact remains in a situation where the police are outnumber and violence has been encountered.
And groups have come out saying they are going to break the law.. The police have to treat everything as a threat. It's unfortunate and shouldn't be happening in our society.
The very fact however, that people see violence as a means of protest make "Free-Speech Zones" seem like viable options on a national level, while I do not agree with them you must surely see the police aren't the only bad-guys in this.
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GraveLehr
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AreOh
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pissedoffinarkansas:
Grave, thank you for this response. This shows that your thought process consists more of insults. And I would agree. As I previously stated, there is such a thing as protesters going too far. It is the context of the situation that alarms me. On such a national and visible stage, the violence perpetrated by the police in this situation only further demonstrates the lack of civility and decency that, unfortunately, has become commonplace concerning the current administration. There are always going to be people who abuse their right to civil disobedience. The challenge, that we have consistently failed, is realizing that there is a difference. Most of these people are not criminals. Most of these people do not deserve the treatment that has been displayed. Laws have been broken, true, but it is a protest. The concept of defying law in an act to be heard is nothing new in our country. Of course there are consequences to this type of behavior. However, it does not, at all excuse the brutal tactics that have been used. It is simply un-American. We have again shown, on a national level, that we are no better than the countries we lecture on decency, humanity and civility.
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AreOh
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pissedoffinarkansas:
My insult was merely a retalitation, and I do agree that the police went to extremes in this case as there wasn't any outward show of violence.
Now do to the volatile nature of current events people feel the police are more justified in these harsher times, I happen to feel there should be some middle ground.. People should be allowed to protest anytime anywhere, as long as they do not threaten violence, or partake in violent actions. Peaceful protest. If they do threaten violence or partake in violent than the police should be able to restrain them.
Now your comment on civil disobedience, there's a fine line between the montgomery bus boycott and threatening violence and shattering store windows.
One supports change, the other makes people fear your cause.
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GraveLehr
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AreOh
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pissedoffinarkansas:
Hm, I hear you Grave. I think you make a key point when you mention there should be a middle ground. There is a distinct lack of that right now. Still, I am not surprised, considering the tactics of the current administration domestically and abroad. I feel the RNC situation is simply another symptom of this. And there is, ha, a distinct difference between the civil right movements and now. My comment concerning civlil disobedience was said in a general sense. I appreciate you sharing your views. We may not agree on every detail, but there are somethings that we can understand each other on.
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AreOh
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Ionstorm2040
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Welcome to Nazi Germany... ah wait... it's Burma... err no... welcome to the USA... now it's correct!
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cptoiboy
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The capitol grounds were vacated before 5 pm.
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cptoiboy
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wholefreespirit
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Thank you for this video, (even though it is heart breaking.) And thank you especially for the links....looks like I have some homework to do. Utterly incomprehensible!
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wholefreespirit
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GraveLehr
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This isn't a case of suppressing freedom, this is a case of the police in the area having to treat everybody around them as a threat.
Due to the radicalism of the protesters.
Now, the question is, did this event take place after 5:00PM? Because ALL protesters and those associated where supposed to get out.
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GraveLehr
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wholefreespirit
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GraveLehr:
sycophant.
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wholefreespirit
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GraveLehr
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GraveLehr:
Exactly who am I trying to please?
I'm not going to gain anything from the police, and this story doesn't effect me...
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GraveLehr
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AreOh
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GraveLehr:
If this is the basis of your argument, Grave, I would suggest you read Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States to get perspective of the larger context of why this particular event is so contradictory to the ideals of our country. It seems your views lack a knowledgeable and thought out foundation.
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AreOh
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GraveLehr:
Anyone who thinks they need a permit for protesting is never going to get the sociopolitical change that they want.
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cptoiboy
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I was just released from the Ramsey County lockup, at 5 30 am Friday morning (the prison where all of us on the Marion st bridge were taken to on the final day of the convention). I was also there on tuesday when they didnt allow Rage to play and we marched down to RNC, before being broken up on St Clair ave. On the final day we marched, around a thousand and a half strong, to university and rice. If you know anything about the Saint Paul area, that is a very big intersection. Once we arrived there, a line of bike and riot cops awaited us. I was shot in the leg by a smoke canister, in this first wave. The cops did not use tear gas, choosing to use the mace instead. We were forced to fall back quickly to the south, which consist of a Sears complex. There we were split in half. As we continued south bound without leadership we were met by more and more cops until we were surrounded , they continued to fire upon us, as many in the crowd asked where we could disperse to. They told us to go to the bridge and we would be allowed to leave the area. Around 300, including my self were herded onto the bridge, and even then they continued to throw concussion grenades at us. After about a half an hour (9pm) we were informed that we were all under arrest, no officer would tell me what crime we commited. We were told to place our hands on our heads, after an hour or so (10pm) Metro transit bus's began to arrive. There route names were replaced with the simple words "Police Bus". One by one the three hundred of us were arrested, by 1 am they brought portable bathrooms to the bridge which they allowed us to use after being searched. Those that used the bathrooms were escourted by a police officer, who watched us. Then we were loaded onto the buses (2 am). At the lock up, we were placed into large cages, according to which bus we came on. There we waited like dogs at the animal shelter for a corrections officer to call our name. From there we were booked and given a citation for unlawful assembly. I was loaded into a van at (5 30 am), with 7 of my fellow inmates and driven a block away, where we were unloaded and given back the possessions that we had in our pockets. (Any backpacks, bags, bikes, etc are being held until Monday). Thankfully, as I was dressed in a tee-shirt and a pair of shorts while it was around 40 to 50 degrees out, we were met by a group of supporters who offered us food, cigarettes, clothing and legal support.
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cptoiboy
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GraveLehr
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cptoiboy:
Just got to point out, while a terrible story...
You didn't go to prison, you went to jail.
Prison is for holding people longer than 12 months (depending on the state)
Jail is for holding people >12 Months...
And overnight... You probably didn't even make it in to jail and remained in lock-up, but that depends largely on the city.
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Narcoleptic_Insomnia
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Compare Goodman's video (and others from the RNC protests) with the following article/video/propaganda:
Police Brutality at the Democratic National Convention: Two Minor Girls Arrested for Sidewalk Chalking Near Senator Obama's Hotel
DENVER, Aug. 28 -- On Wednesday, August 27, police officers brutally arrested two teenage girls, ages 15 and 17, near Senator Obama's Denver hotel. The young women, Julia Giacopuzzi and Jayne White, were writing messages in sidewalk chalk on the public sidewalk when the police officers rushed in and violently arrested the girls without warning or provocation.
The girls are members of the pro-life youth organization Survivors, and were in Denver during the Democratic National Convention to call attention to Senator Barack Obama's pro-abortion position as part of A Prayer for Change.
Throughout the DNC, the youth of Survivors were using sidewalk chalk throughout the city of Denver with the permission of City Attorney David Fine and Denver Deputy Chief of Police John Lamb. It was understood by the young women that sidewalk chalk was an accepted medium, and they were given no warning by the police before being cuffed and dragged away.
View video of the arrests:
http://www.youtube.com/v/3Ev3QO3NzbM
Ohhh, and take a look at all the damage done to these girls faces:
http://www.earnedmedia.org/Jayne_Julia.htm
I'm surprised they're still alive : - P
(The original article can be found at
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/733757654.html...yeah, ChristianNewsWire, quite a shock : - P )
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DaPistolPat
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You people that find this shocking should really look around the world today, these people were treated as potential suspects who were still in an area after the police asked them to disband.
For any one who researches this protest/riot at the RNC you will find videos of people right in the middle of the protest breaking innocent vendors/businesses windows and destroying public property.
It is standard procedure to ask the protestors to disband from a particular area, to clean it up and secure the businesses.
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jdalston
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Someone cried because of a short video that no one has any proof of where it was taken...??? LOL come on people lets get real! Lets grow up and GROW SOME BALLS!!!!
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Alex_French
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im glad that another video leaked that angers people like this one does. the revolution is nigh my brothers and sisters. nigh like apple pie on the fourth of july.
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SDLN
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I think the litigation that will inevitably follow these conventions will have enormous implications on the future of the 1st Amendment. Maybe more needs to be done. Maybe the faces of the officers (perfectly clear in many videos) need to be linked to names so that the media can hold them personally accountable for their actions. I don't know.
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SDLN
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SDLN:
sounds good.
lets string those pigs up.
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intelligenceisacurse
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chivideoguy
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"Fuck the police" -NWA
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chivideoguy
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mande
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its a sad day in america when an unarmed woman gets beaten down by a man payed to serve and protect.
police are supposted to serve and protect, at least thats what i thought.
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McGaspa
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Unalienable rights? This is a human being. These cops, and many others, have no respect for the constitution. We give them power, hoping they'll protect our rights, instead they take them away.
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McGaspa
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colepeezy
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She over-dramatized that. If this was real, then it would be horrible, but cops know that people are trying to make them look bad and therefore don't do this. They don't just beat people to the ground for protesting.
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intelligenceisacurse
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colepeezy:
overdramatized?
her face was shoved into the pavement.
a boot was put on her upper back.her face was cut open by the force.
and you are saying it was dramatized?
fuck off.
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colepeezy:
Tell you what... me and a hundred or so of my friends are going to dress up in riot gear wielding batons and chase you into a corner and beat you to the ground and we'll see how you react... overdramatized my ass...
The problem here is they don't care how bad they look anymore because we now officially have no recourse. We can't say it was unlawful use of force, we can't fight back, we can't do a damn thing but take the beating and go to prison for some trumped up charges. See the article on the 8 people charged with "terrorism" if you don't believe me...
The best we can do is hope someone videotapes the incident and the footage incites others to stand up and fight back as well. If this shit keeps up I have to think things are gonna go down in a big way...
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clicky
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intelligenceisacurse
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HaloedGriot
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Ummm...Civil Rights movement? Hello?
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I want to know why exactly someone higher up in the chain of command ordered the street officers to act so aggressively. They are all acting aggressively in unison. There must be some kind of psychological reason. They know these people pose little threat.
I'm more than certain each of those officers has a conscious that they face each night before they go to sleep, just like everyone else at the convention; except for Sarah Palin, her heart was frozen and shattered in the Alaskan tundra. Making cracks about community service. She can't see further than her own family.
Though, there must be some specific reason for their aggression.
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BillionJawingNeurons:
Yes, there is.
They were given the green light and an insurance policy
was taken out by the RNC to cover the first 10 million
in damages and lawsuits for police brutality. - 3 years ago
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BillionJawingNeurons:
Very possible, but maybe they just get tired of being taunted so they feel they have the power do whatever the hell they want and get away with it....i mean how would you ID one of the guys??? Oh, he was dressed in black, helmet, very aggressive, had a baton and pepper spray...
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McGaspa
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Yaemea
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Everyone in this country needs to take a chill pill. I don't see the gain of pushing someone on the ground. Are our minds so lost and distorted that we beat up someone screaming for help?
If so, do they realize that the victim could be someone just like them?
If so, I fear the future. - 3 years ago
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huntre
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Amy Goodman was on PBS's "Now" with this footage as well as her own arrest outside of the RNC.
Approximately 500 protesters and the journalists covering the action were arrested and held to be prosecuted at a later date.
Many of the captured and abused journalists were quoted as saying that a Secret Service agent approached them, took their Press passes and walked away with no interferece by the police.
I have friends in Saint Paul who witnessed many of these over-the-top events.
Don't you dare tell me that it wasn't real. - 3 years ago
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sublimeuniverse
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It is the same force that took my name and ordered us to cease and desist via handgun when I protested Regan in the 1990's. The only difference is that they have been controlling America for so long that they no longer fear the American people they steal their power from. I am sorry people had to go through this.
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laveyN
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There's no proof that was at the RNC
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laveyN
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laveyN:
the clip was from the democracy now crew who were at the rnc when this happened. they were talking about it on democracy now after the incident. the youtube clip also has several video clips that you can browse that clearly show that it was at the rnc.either way regardless of where it was you can clearly here the lady screaming press press and yet they assaulted her. and that was not cool
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stone246
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stone246
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laveyN:
here is another story on current that had a similar incident.
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stone246
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laveyN:
It was. It is.
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laveyN:
Actually yes, there is proof.
and actually yes, that was at the RNC.If you want the proof, please refer to the criminal charges
that were filed against her and the time and place
of the incident, it is all public record.All documented by the courts.
So what now huh?
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intelligenceisacurse
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T_Rose
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When has protesting ever gotten anything done? People that are beaten by the police are usually asking for it. You can't form a large group and shout things in an angry manner and not expect to get batoned.
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T_Rose
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T_Rose:
Apparently shouting things is too be punished by beatings huh?
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T_Rose:
what if it is done in a peaceful manner?
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T_Rose:
it has never gotten anything accomplished, most people in the crowd are peaceful, throw in one or two nuts and then bam 500 people are getting hurt. Protest didn't work in the 60's i dont know why people think after 40 years its gonna work like magic.
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T_Rose:
Clayjj, if you truly believe protest doesn't work because it never has, then I truly recommend you read something, anything. You couldn't be more wrong. March on Selma? Million Man?
Anybody arguing in favor of suppression is on the wrong side in my opinion. This is nothing but a pure violation of our inalienable right to assemble. Nothing but.
And to TRose, what the fuck?? You can't form a group and shout things in an angry manner? Of course you can. Have you read our constitution? I can do whatever the hell I want to assemble and say whatever the fuck I want when I assemble. Nothing less. It is unbelievably upsetting to read any person defend such brutal violations of our rights.
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T_Rose:
Yes, our failing education system constantly neglects to teach the minorities of the United States that the real power relies in the civilian population and masses.
Protests work all the time, they just dont tell you that.
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McGaspa
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T_Rose:
You can in America, it's called freedom of speech. We're becoming a police state thanks to people like you.
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McGaspa
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Ayahuasca2012
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T_Rose:
Protesting has gotten plenty done... if anything the making of martyr's for a cause tends to further the cause at the very least...
Your people that get beaten by police are usually asking for it argument is stupid... Have you ever heard that police feed off of each other? (Malcolm Gladwell?) That if you are faced with one police officer you are likely to have a better experience than if you have two. So theoretically if you have thousands, they are all feeding off each other, adrenaline pumping, all roided out and waiting to pummel the next person who even so much as starts to yell "Fuck the RNC!".
And yes! I can expect to form a large group and shout things in an angry manner without getting beaten. The Constitution says so... but then again the Neocons have wiped their ass on it so many times I don't know if it's readable anymore.
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Ayahuasca2012
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dietbetsy
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T_Rose:
We used to form large groups and shout things in an angry manner, it has always been an American right. Picket lines and union protests are what gave you the 40 hour work week, (in the days we used to have work...) street demos were what ended segregated schools and buses, and I participated in these in my own time. Things started to go bad in America with Nixon, when protests of a war were methodologically stifled on a federal level, and it has grown worse since then, particularly when republicans rule because they own the industries that profit from war... and our present government is owned almost entirely by previously unsuccessful oil executives, who will try to destroy any protests as they take armed control of oily geography regardless of human cost. Don't shut up!
- 3 years ago
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dietbetsy
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AreOh
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T_Rose:
This comment is simply ignorance. Doing some simple reading into American history will show this is just the view of an unaware person. It is unsubstantiated opinions such as these that fuel the deterioration of the ideals of our country.
- 3 years ago
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AreOh
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redvelvet1278
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my GOD what is going on? when i used to watch people in germany and china beaten in the streets by police i felt so outraged at the fact that this could happen- not in any country, but just to humans living on this planet. i also felt that even though i didn't always agree with my government, it did keep me safe most of the time.
What do people around the world think of our great crumbling nation? I myself feel sick, sicker than I have for the last eight years- and thats saying something.
Who do we turn to now but ourselves? If the US is the so called "world police" then what does that mean for the world?
- 3 years ago
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redvelvet1278
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ChrisWT
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I'm pretty sure this is acted out and made for dramatization. I think I've seen it on TV, but if not there is something seriously wrong.
- 3 years ago
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ChrisWT
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intelligenceisacurse
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ChrisWT:
nope, this is real footage.
- 3 years ago
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intelligenceisacurse
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Ayahuasca2012
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ChrisWT:
There is something seriously wrong...
To the people that think this is fake or that these people deserve what happens to them...
I believe that my link is kind of relevant...
Think about it...
- 3 years ago
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Ayahuasca2012
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VegaNerDiva
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ChrisWT:
Supa-relevant!
I like the nofx rendition:First they put away the dealers,
keep our kids safe and off the street.
Then they put away the prostitutes,
keep married men cloistered at home.
Then they shooed away the bums,
then they beat and bashed the queers,
turned away asylum-seekers,
fed us suspicions and fears.
We didn't raise our voice,
we didn't make a fuss.
It's funny there was no one left to notice
when they came for us. - 3 years ago
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VegaNerDiva
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wholefreespirit
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ChrisWT:
Vega that made me tear up.
So what are we gonna do?What can we do? - 3 years ago
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wholefreespirit
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Pericles_Lewnes
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ChrisWT:
ChrisWT,
Snap out of it.
- 3 years ago
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Pericles_Lewnes
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kennymotown
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It's not the country I know.
- 3 years ago
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kennymotown
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1percent
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Your papers please!
Please state your business!
Get on the ground!
You are free. Free to what your told!
What a Fucked up reality exists here in the U.S. at the moment.
Good luck my fellow citizens.
Ride on!
- 3 years ago
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1percent
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Jpinilla712
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its a truly sad thing, how many of these intances do you think go unnoticed in our country? i wish there was a camera for every single moment this happened because it's more common than people think. Shame that in the land of the free we still have to worry about the diminishing concept of freedom of speech
- 3 years ago
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Jpinilla712
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adam_romano
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Jpinilla712:
i think that even if more people knew this was happening they still simply would not care. They would say things like "they were in the way of the police doing their jobs." its bullshit and just sad where our countrys headed.
- 3 years ago
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adam_romano