Students 'could hold the keys' to power in the White House
source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/17/uselections2008.barackobama1
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"Facebook tells the story. As of last night, Obama had 1,847,187 Facebook friends. McCain had 335,528. On top of that, the campaign has created platforms across numerous internet-networking sites, from Twitter to Faithbase and BlackPlanet. The beauty of the approach is that it is bottom up rather than top down, allowing young people to run their own Obama-supporting groups unfettered by central control."
Alas, in the last three elections, the youth have failed to deliver on all these predictions. Why?
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WhiteNoise
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Thing is... if you add the youth vote to the Nader, Paul, Kucinich, Barr, McKinney & the 50% who don't vote anymore; you get a huge majority of Americans that have no voice, no representation what so ever...
"Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner." -- James Bovard / Lost Rights. The Destruction of American Liberty
"I wouldn't call it fascism exactly, but a political system nominally controlled by an irresponsible, dumbed down electorate who are manipulated by dishonest, cynical, controlled mass media that dispense the propaganda of a corrupt political establishment can hardly be described as democracy either." -- Edward Zehr - (1936-2001) Columnist
Meanwhile...
"We are watching a poorly staged rendition of Wag the Dog , interpreted for the morbidly stupid and performed by the criminally insane." - Jules Carlysle
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WhiteNoise
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lbwestdal
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Well, let's hope that these students are registered and don't show up to vote only to find out they are not registered. If you want to help with the elections make sure everyone you know is registered. :) Oh, and it helps if they know the location and date to vote too. One would be suprised to find out a passionate candidate could be clueless to this crucial info
- 4 years ago
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lbwestdal
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BIOHAZARD
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Because we hold the Keys and the answers, once again listen to the people especially the students, our ideas are endless and its a future outlook not feeding the rich.
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BIOHAZARD
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kennymotown
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they were the difference in the JFK election, I just hope the government isn't handing out free party drugs the night before the election. We must be ever vigilant people.
- 4 years ago
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kennymotown
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StuArt_Gould
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This means NOTHING. The last campaign's "Vote or Die" was the big thing, and it was found that there was no increase in the youth turn out. MAYBE if voting was done "American Idle" style there might be some substance here, but its not, and there isn't.
- 4 years ago
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StuArt_Gould
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WhiteNoise
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Slacker Uprising
http://slackeruprising.com/Brave New Films
http://www.youtube.com/user/bravenewfilms"This is being done entirely as a gift to my fans. The only return any of us are hoping for is the largest turnout of young voters ever at the polls in November." - Michael Moore
- 4 years ago
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WhiteNoise
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argyle_kitten
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I'm 18 and I'm going to be voting. Everyone else I know of my age (which admittedly is a very low number) is going to vote as well.
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argyle_kitten
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Tori
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When I was at the DNC, I spoke with Brian Schatz who is the chairman of the democratic party in Hawaii, and, at 35, the youngest party chair in the country.
I asked him what he thought about the youth vote, and he said that to anyone who says the youth vote doesn't matter, that Barack Obama IS the Democratic nominee because of young voters. He pointed to Obama's win in Iowa, the first contest in the primary season, and further explained that Obama won Iowa because of all the college aged voters. Iowa was what started Obama's winning streak - if he hadn't won there, we might be facing a different general election.
I personally have never missed an election - I consider voting a high honor and a civic duty. If I'm not part of the solution, than I am part of the problem. I'm really excited to see other young people engaging this year, and I hope it lasts!
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Tori
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maasanova
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When I was that age I always voted third party/independent, that was until the last election. When the election was stolen for the second time, and that Kerry was just an empty suit set up to take a dive was when I realized it doesn't matter who you vote for within the two party system.
Both sides have the ability to manipulate the vote ten different ways or more; from hacking/owning the voting machines, media manipulation of the candidates, illegal campaign contributions, obligations to strong-arm lobbies, and then of course there is always the threat of intimidation/assasination.
- 4 years ago
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maasanova
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VoyagerFilms
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My eight year old daughter was watching mcSame on the news the other night and commented "he looked like he was tired of living."
Something to think very seriously about. The guy who ran over and killed 10 people at a Farmers Market in Santa Monica, CA on one beautiful day - I day I might have been there with my chilldren - looked the same.
The trouble with people like mcLame who are close to death, with only a few years left to live - is that know they don't have to face the consequences for any duration of time - like the rest of us.
This should be a warning sign - and remember mcSame's complicity in another left of the American people with the Keating Five where he pressed the investigator to lay off his friend.
I realize mcLame claims he didn't pressure the investigator - but him needlessly showing up and being present was pressure enough.
It was him obstructing a Federal investigation - because he could, and because Keating had already paid him off to do so.
There is a reason we call him mcSame!
If he walks like a duck, quacks like a duck he is a duck.
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Armageddon_Now
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All these young kids excited for Obama don't even realize they have to vote. They just think putting up posters suffices.
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Armageddon_Now
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Armageddon_Now:
as much as i think a large amount of our youth is stupid i don't think there THAT stupid, although "Vote or Die" didn't work either for the left wing party, huh ... maybe they are that dumb ... Vote McCain :D
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StuArt_Gould
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Ricky84
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Within the age demographic in the 2004 election the youth vote made up the smallest percentage. In reality we don't make that much of a difference.
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Ricky84
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Justanks
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I was lucky enough to turn 18 in an election year. I was so excited to be able to vote! I don't understand why so many people around my age don't really care and think that their vote doesn't matter.
Duh, your alone doesn't matter, but if everyone who thought that actually voted it would make a huge difference. Politians would acutually listen to we have to say.
Don't you get it?????
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Justanks
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keeshii768
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I'm voting absentee for Florida. But Florida messes up everything so idk.
- 4 years ago
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Ryz0n
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There isn't much motivating that I need to do because I'm in CA and we're obviously going only one way. I wish I was registered in a different state to make my vote feel more meaningful besides morally.
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Ryz0n
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civicduty
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Keep in mind that polls typically survey "likely voters," which means that the youth are disenfranchised in the polling process as a result of not typically voting in large numbers. This is why the youth vote is so critical -- it would be a "surprise" to the polls and certainly sway the election. So, college students...please, please, please get out there this year...this election has HUGE implications on your ability to get jobs when you graduate or buy a home in 5-10 years!
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civicduty
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sueathome
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Polls smolls. Don't forget the crooked press! Read the facebook article on this site regarding supports for Obama vs. McCain.
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sueathome
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TerryA
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I honestly hope you guys are right. It may be our only chance to beat the McCain/Palin fiasco.
My only question is, if this is true, why does it not show up in the polls. During the primaries the youth vote gave Obama an 11+ point lead over McCain with a 12 point undecided. It is now by all intent and purpose a dead even race with still an 8 point undecided. This does not require a PHD in analytical math to see this scenario does not add up.
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TerryA
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bishopobispo
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TerryA:
I wouldn't sweat too much about the polls... they have quite the history of being off.
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bishopobispo
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alisachka
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Its all up to the college generation to make or break this deal. We are the future of this country after all.
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alisachka
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bishopobispo
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David Plouffe lays out the numbers pretty solidly. In this clip, he discusses voter gains and losses for the Democrats and Republicans. If this general election looks anything like it did in 2004, the youth vote (which overwhelmingly supports Obama), could be the deciding factor.
For all you Barackstars out there let's keep up the enthusiasm until our man's in the White House.
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bishopobispo
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bishopobispo
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With each passing election, the youth vote seemed to be getting more and more irrelevant. This has changed. Just look at the primaries.
There were 6.5 million young voters who turned up to vote during this years primary season... more than double the number from 2000. In Iowa alone, young voter turnout rose 135% from the previous presidential primary. From South Carolina, to California, to Nevada, more and more youth became involved in the political process, many of them, for the first time.
November should be interesting.
"Return of the Youth Vote"
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-firstvote5feb05,1,1459190.story"The Year of the Youth Vote"
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1708570,00.html - 4 years ago
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sueathome
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I hope the students come out in droves like nothing this country has ever seen before. It will make a statement of how the little guy in America really feels about big government control. Life as the rich and greedy know it is soooooo over!
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sueathome
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huntre
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I think that college student's growing anger over the economy, the environment and increasing war by a criminal administration will get them out in numbers previously unheard of.
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TerryA
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Even during the 60's and 70'S, when the students took to the streets in protest and outrage against the government, only 24-28% actually turned out to vote.
It seems the more they talk, the faster they get it out of their system, and go back to life as usual. Back to their self serving interests.
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TerryA
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asherp
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No, really, J_Jammer... the Youth Vote hasn't turned out above 40% in the past three cycles.
This time, we'll be lucky if we see them turn out at 50%.
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asherp
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asherp:
Considering how many are clamoring for 'change' it'll be a shocker if the numbers are not higher than said.
Especially now that Palin is part of the equation. You have to hear all sides of this. She has energized her party's base as well as the other party---against her.
She could very well energize the young folks to vote---both for and against her.
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J_Jammer [removed]
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TerryA
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Being excited about the opportunity to vote. Being excited about the prospect of voting for the candidate of your choice are what is generating all this activity with the young voter, but will all this excitement actually send them in droves to the polls in November?
I doubt it.
Unfortunately the wows of America at large do not effect the young as much as they do their parents. The only time they get physically involved is when the decisions of government involve them directly.
You want to see college students flock to the polls, just let the government say they are bringing back the draft, or all federal funding for education will be stopped next semester.
It is of little consequence that the stock market is tanking, or the price of food has risen 35% in the last 6 months, gas prices are 85% higher than they were this time last year. These are real world problems, and they really don't effect that generation.
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TerryA
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J_Jammer [removed]
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Please tack on who you want them to vote for: Obama.
This idea that people are EXCITED that they'll vote is hogwash. They are excited because who they want to win will be voted for (or they hope) by the ecstatic youth.
Otherwise the idea of getting them to vote would be toned down.
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J_Jammer [removed]
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keeshii768
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J_Jammer:
J_J is that what you look like?
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keeshii768
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argyle_kitten
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J_Jammer:
Why the hell do your comments always include this ridiculous idea that people just have this undefinable "want" for someone to win, for no reason at all? You think they just want Obama and there's no reason behind it.
Also, why is wanting to someone to vote for your candidate a bad thing? If you believe that candidate is the best one there is, then hell yes you want people to vote for him.
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argyle_kitten
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J_Jammer:
No keesh. JJ looks like Cannonball from the X Men.
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bishopobispo
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bansheewail
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It's the Digital Age and information is king. With cell phones and the internet the youth vote has been enraptured with political fever because of the ease of accessing the process. Get out and VOTE!!!!
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bansheewail
