McCain will attend presidential debate tonight
source: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-debate27-2008sep27,0,137995.story
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msltj20
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surprize!
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goobers
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Did you all hear that? McCain won't tell U he's going to attack. He'll act like Regan during the Contra wars. He'll do what he has to do! Does he have Cheney in his hearing aid? #current
- 3 years ago
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goobers
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Winghunter
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goobers:
Yea! Unlike NObama who tells our enemy exactly what he intends on doing...he is a very intelligent con man, isnt he.
Maybe thats why he received the endorsement of HAMAS and we can bet our paychecks, if you work that is, that Osama will surely endorse him also.
How could anyone even think about being capable for their own governance at a time like this??
Barack Obama's Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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Winghunter
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goobers
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Obama looks more like a leader. McCain acts like a grumpy grandpa and quit using "appeals to authority" like, "I was there!"
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goobers:
Yea, a leader like Mussolini or no, much more like Hugo Chavez.
Yet, "grumpy grandpas" do make excellent United States Presidents...wait! Ive got an idea, why dont we see what the guys who created our form of government say we should be looking for! Nahhh, that would be too much like work.
Barack Obama's Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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Winghunter
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goobers
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Obama can think on his feet. McCain is getting grumpy. Glad McCain isn't in charge of the big scarry button!
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goobers
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goobers
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mmmmmm.... and bacon.
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goobers
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goobers
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I like eggs.....
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goobers
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1234goobama
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Nader looks good.
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1234goobama
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Winghunter
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Obama got his chance to show how incredibly naive he was tonight and he didn't disappoint that expectation.
He was also sure to tell of his redistribution of wealth tax plan...take from those who risk and work for it and give to those who dont...sure to get a ton of lazy and children votes with that socialist idiotology.
No, Obama didnt disappoint at all tonight, he did exactly what the informed expected him to.
Learn who he is;
Barack Obamas Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senators tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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beemans
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Winghunter:
Socialism is a redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor for equality. Use a dictionary before you speak. Money given from taxes to pay down debt is not redistributing it you dolt. It is paying off the bank (China) so we do not have to do stupid things like distribute property to the people we owe money to.
A tax break for 95% of us lazy 60+ hours a week workers is not a redistribution. The tax is on Income and not a business tax. There is no need to cut jobs due to a repeal of a tax plan instituted by Bush which had a sundown date anyway. The calculated tax from the repeal is still less than what Reagan taxed the upper 5% in the 80's and republicans think he was better than sliced bread so they should be happy.
Giving the middle class money to purchase items helps the business owners who take the risk. You must remember that no one will take the risk of starting or continuing a business when there is no customer due to no jobs. A tax to keep businesses from going over seas or south of the border keeps jobs here. But why should McCain do that. God for bid tax a business for leaving the country, but go ahead and hit us with the health care tax.
You might want to look up the current definitions of what is considered middle class. You probably fall into it.
It was sure nice to see McCain's plan to start taxing us for purchasing health plans through our employers. I wonder where that money gets redistributed to? He will give you a $5000.00 rebate at first but that does not begin to cover the rate at which health care rises. If he wants to make the tax code easy then why would you tax me and at the same time give me a rebate? That makes filling out the old 1040 easier. People can't afford insurance anyway. Uninsured people are at a all time high. If your going to tax something, at least make it on something people can get.
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beemans
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beemans
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Winghunter:
Just to let you know, I checked out your web site. There is so much opinion enforced bull-shit it is unreal. Unlike your reference I prefer something that is worth a damn. Try libraryofcongress.org and actually read what these 2 candidates voted for and against. I make my opinion from fact, not some sorry hack article that means nothing. You can also check the Illinois state legislature web site for some clarity and truth.
Between these 2 candidates you will see they mostly vote on the same issues but disagree on some time lines or money values.
Educate yourself with fact. You will see McCain and OBama's lost years and what really ensued.
- 3 years ago
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kuruption
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they are both neck and neck.....
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kuruption:
They will be until people learn what the media refuses to tell them;
Barack Obamas Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senators tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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FlorM
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So, From what I hear, read, and see. I don't know why McCain was a number 1 pick for the leader of this great country we love called AMERICA THE GREAT by his peers, What was going on in there mind. Are they trying to lose?
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FlorM
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FlorM:
First, McCain wasnt our choice, now he's just the much lesser of evils.
Second, the liberal states who jumped ahead of their rightful time out of greed is who dictated our nominees...we owe them so much.
Third, you have no idea who you are supporting so, find out;
Barack Obamas Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senators tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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Johnny_Danger
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Obama's gonna lose. I called it!
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Winghunter
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Johnny_Danger:
You were right.
Seen this yet?
Barack Obamas Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senators tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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skatingkid19
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McCain forgot to take his pills, and Obama looks like he is using just for men
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mdhx333
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i love obama. i feel like people are too uninformed though to vote for him
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mdhx333:
Oh, Really??
Lets see how much you know.
What else did NObama do before he slid into the Senate?
In the two seconds that it takes you to say "I dont know" you can look here;
Barack Obama's Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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Devolution13
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Lets Go Obama. If he wins and the Brewers lose, i think he clinches the Wildcard.
- 3 years ago
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simplyme
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You have got to be kidding....of course John McCain was going to debate,He never said he wouldn't ,He was saying we NEED TO GO DO OUR JOBS Senator !!!! Then come back to this race . How dumb to think he was afraid or what ever you think GO MCCAIN!!!!!
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Johnny_Danger
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simplyme:
You are like my new best friend on this site.
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JohnA
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HODDY TODDY,
GOSH A MIGHTY,
WHO IN THE HELL ARE WE?
FLIM FLAM,
BIM BAM,
OLE MISS, BY DAMN!GO TO HELL FLORIDA 'GATORS! GO REBELS!
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JohnA
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openwiide
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i love how some of you are acting like its going to a wrestling match of some sort...
now THAT id love to see. - 3 years ago
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openwiide
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openwiide:
Yea, on one side we have a 72 year old man who was tortured for five years to within an inch of his life and can't raise his own hands above his shoulders from the injuries. His face is disfigured from broken bones also and on the other side we've got an inexperienced, unqualified kid without any service to his country at all yet, has the unmitigated gall to run for the highest office of our land because he believes he's entitled.
But, you'ld like to see a wrestling match....great.
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openwiide:
Flamboyant and dramatic response! Leave her to like what she likes. Your response is no better than hers.
As for your remarks on McCain, my father has a college education and was in the military as well during Viet Nam. I will tell you that in no way qualifies him for a presidential candidate.
Obama has every right to this presidency as McCain does via a democratic process. Neither one of these candidates feel they earned the spot, that is why they are candidates.
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beemans
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richjm
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I've got a question to all you American folks and I'd love to hear your thoughts.
There's been a huge amount of interest in this election in the UK (where I live) and the rest of the world and even though tonight's debate airs at 2am UK time, I know of quite a few people who are going to be staying up and watching it.
My question is: if David Cameron and Gordon Brown were debating tomorrow in a British general election, would any of you make sure you tuned in?
I'm genuinely curious - no problem if you don't think you would. I'm keen to hear all thoughts here and there's really no right or wrong answer as far as I'm concerned. Click the green 'reply' under this post and let me know, if you fancy sharing your thoughts. Thanks!
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richjm:
I think you'd be hard pressed to find anybody over here that would care enough to tune-in. Especially not at 2am.
I think the only foreign affairs we care about are those amusing shouting matches and fights your politicians have. And we can just find those on youtube :)
Rich, do you think the British would be tuning in had they not suffered through the 8 years of Bush? Maybe if you guys have someone that awful, then we'll tune-in!
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richjm
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richjm:
I honestly think you'd be hard-pressed to even find many Brits who would fancy watching UK political debates. ;-)
One of the big draws in this year's US election to Brits is how exciting and important it feels. Like for you guys, it feels like things are on the cusp of something new. British politics can be very stuffy and tedious. Some of the debates can be exciting because of the wit but they're less sensational than the US ones and our TV reporting of it has no snazzy intros, anthemic songs or cowbells.
The Bush factor is definitely playing a major part. Blair and Bush's alliance brought British and US politics so close together that whoever succeeds him is going to obviously influence what goes on over here in part.
This is how one of the biggest selling tabloids in the UK greeted his re-election in 2004: http://bokertov.typepad.com/btb/images/daily_mirror_bush.jpg
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richjm:
Rich,
Americans only watch American Idol and Survivor. I am willing to bet that the vast majority of Americans could point out England on a map, and could not give one reason why it would be important to tune in to your debates.
Shameful, but true...
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richjm:
Ninepounds6, do you mean they COULDN'T point out England on a map. And Rich, Who do you want to our win our election.
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richjm:
The last time we tuned in for your news broadcasts, FOX News tied in with your BBC, which were very interesting and informative and I enjoyed looking in to your broadcasting world. ( Knowing full well that your lives nor ours is a reflection of our news networks. )
I watched late at night when the tied in together and on the fourth or fifth day one of your reporters couldn't help himself from throwing an insult at America and the crap hit the fan where that was all for that cooperation...but, we know that's not coming from you guys, you see, we have far too many elitist socialists in our networks also.
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MyCane is not yellow, he's chicken.
The man can't even make good on his declaration he made two days ago. Talk about loss of short-term memory.
How to spoil a deal and act like a whimp in just one day.
I'm waiting for the Biden/Palin debate. I believe many more will watch the VP debate as it holds such promise of outdoing SNL. We all want to see Palin play herself. What fun!
- 3 years ago
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kennyJ
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Speaking of financial meltdowns, maybe they can talk about the the "Savings and Loan" crisis of the 1980s and 1990s. It would seem McCain has some intimate knowledge.
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kennyJ:
You must be hoping that no one here actually knows McCain was completely exonerated from any wrongdoing. The investigator, a democrat, even wrote a book explaining McCain should not have been required to testify.
In fact, only due to the fact that he was the only republican in the Keating 5 was he made to testify as even the Wikipedia account explains McCain was going out of his way not to unduly influence an investigation.
It really sucks when someone who has done their homework comes in and ruins your perfectly good and depraved aspersion like that, doesn't it.
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kennyJ:
Contrary to what winghunter says John McCain supported the Tax ReformAct of 1986 which was sponsored by 2 democrats. This did simplify the tax code but was one more great step to lack of oversight. It was seen as one of the two great Reagan Tax cuts.
Also John McCain was no hero for intervening for anything. He was rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for intervening on behalf of Charles Keating head of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association's role in the whole SNL problem.
A long line of deregulation and lack of oversight votes were still to come by Mr. McCain in the future.
When you look things up, read more than one Wikipedia article.
- 3 years ago
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beemans
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kelljor
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We are having a Debate party and we are serving Eat Crow Soup in honor of Mr. McSHAME!! We plan to chase it down with SINdy Lou WHO pillpunch!! Come on over.
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carligula
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Fatality!
I miss mortal combat for Genesis.
OBAMA!
- 3 years ago
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carligula
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It really should be set up like the "Family Fued"
The Obama's vs. the McCain's.
We could have Barack, Joe and Michelle vs John, Sarah and Cindy.
"100 adults were survey and asked to name something that describes the economy."
BUZZ!
"Strong!" shouts and Cindy McCain as John and Sarah applaude, nod and mutter, "Good answer, good answer"
Survey says......bzzzzz!
"Damn," says a dejected Cindy. I should have said POW."
Or can you imagine this question:
"100 adults were surveyed and asked to say if Spain is a member of NATO."
"We're going to say no," beams an obviously pleased McCain. "Easy question for someone with my vast foreign policy experience."
"I don't know what NATO is," claps Cindy.
"I can see Russia from my house," exclaims Sarah.
Bzzzzzz! Wrong again McCain family. So wrong you don't even get the lifetime supply of Rice-A-Roni. But you're still multi-multi millionaires with 7 mansions so that's got to be worth something.
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crob80227:
OMG, you're going to make me pee my pants.
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crob80227:
me and my coworkers were talking about this at break today.. only we imagined it more like jeopardy.
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Whatever PR that McCain was trying to get out of his "rushing" to Washington and "putting the debate on hold" was pretty much ruined by skipping out on his appearance on The Late Show.
Dave hasn't let up him yet for missing it and that bad PR certainly is a lot worse than any good PR he was hoping to get be "appearing to be a leader"
Especially since Dave said "He said he felt like a "patriot" to let McCain off his commitment to deal with the economy and "now I'm feeling like an ugly date."
"That's what I feel like, I feel like an ugly date," he said. "I feel used. I feel cheap. I feel sullied."
And also "If you don't come to see me, then we might not see you on Inauguration Day"
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Argon18:
Davey is a little boy with a face only a mother could love...but, he has no problem making jokes about other's looks.
Basically, Daves a jerk from the word go anyway.
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Argon18:
I thought you were a capitalist?
Since McCain canceled, it hurts the ratings and the network loses sponsors or can't collect. This decreases their bottom line.
Dave is now stuck having to spin in order to save face for his sponsors and for the show. The face only a mom and half the nation love to watch.
McCain spun the web and now he is caught in it. I wonder if he has an exoskeleton like a spider?
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beemans
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oracleruby
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I am so excited for this debate! I want to see McCain pull another Ms. South Carolina.
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huntre
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Stock up on your favorite stimulants, "Twitterererers".
Tonight's going to be a long and bumpy ride.
I salute your tenacity, gumption and fortitude.
(and some other words I use even less often) - 3 years ago
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BuddyP
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McCain is a pussy , and everyone called him on it. That's why he will debate tonight.
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BuddyP:
If McCain is a "pussy" for merely saying he would postpone this particular sceduled debate, what does that make NObama for refusing to have TWELVE debates offered by McCain??
In my book, that's truly on the lowly coward level.
- 3 years ago
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BuddyP:
McCain tried to pull out and reschedule for the night of the VP debate. HMMMMMMMMMMM.
Both candidates pulled out of the town hall meetings. SEE BELOW AND STOP IT WITH THE EMPTY "WHY DID OBAMA PULL OUT OF THE TOWN HALL.......WAAAHHHH."
Now you are just whining.
Posted June 9, 2008 12:00 PM
The Swampby Mark Silva
So much for that right-out-of-the-box town hall faceoff between John McCain and Barack Obama.
The presidential campaigns have rejected an offer from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and ABC News to host the first town hall that McCain has proposed because they don't want the coverage limited to one television network.
McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, last week invited Obama to join him at 10 meetings in the coming months, and campaign managers on both sides said they had agreed in spirit to schedule some type of joint appearances.
"But the campaigns rejected a formal offer outlined in a letter from Bloomberg and ABC News on Sunday that envisioned kicking off the town hall series with a 90-minute, prime-time broadcast from New York,'' the Associated Press reports. "The campaigns said the candidates want the meetings open for broadcast on all television networks or on the Internet, rather than be sponsored by a single network or news organization.''
Bloomberg, the billionaire mayor who considered a campaign for president as an independent, has sought to hold onto the spotlight. A spokesman indicated Bloomberg would continue to have a hand in the town hall planning. And ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider said the network is open to discussing a wider distribution.
- 3 years ago
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Thank god these weren't delayed. McCain had enough power to be a POW for 5 years but can't handle the stress of having a sit down and talking? Guess all of his strength was in his trigger finger.
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Ryz0n
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rebot
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mccain just looks like an ASS now!!!
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k8_hj
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Progress? ...I haven't heard of a solution yet. Please tell me how he helped? He does seem to be so very in tune with the economy, it being "fundamentally sound" and all. So obviously a political stunt. This whole bailout has become a political circus. Are there really people buying into all this?
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let ron paul in, he will destroy both of them
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keithponder:
Now there's the voice that defines the principles and values of the liberal snivelers.
Thanks for speakin' your mind, such as it is.
- 3 years ago
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Big deal. Another two hours when their egos and false promises will overtake policy and the MSM will then spend another hour or more repeating everything they said afterwards... I'll be looking for a good movie instead.
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JanforGore:
No, unliike most political zombies I can think for myself. And I wouldn't watch this BS show if you paid me...Oh wait, that would be both Obama and McCain who are being paid by corporate backers who are sponsoring these debates. But at least those who have nothing better to do this weekend will have something to talk about to pass the time. And at least I supply facts. All you seem to supply are insults to others and blind allegiance to Obama based on ... what exactly?
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Wow. I'm so shocked
Listen I saw Joe Scarborough today and he looked real tired. He wanted to say it so bad but he just couldn't.
The only reason the election is this close is because he's black. Period.
John McCain looks like an inexperienced, waffeling, bumbling, angry political novice. But it's enough people who just have negative generational feelings about Black People. Hopefully this debate will close that chapter and make people chose country first.
John McCain is a disgrace. I really had a positive feeling about him earlier this year. I'm really disappointed in what I've seen. I wouldn't let him run a night club, let alone a country.
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NeoDotCom:
What a rascist rant to squirm.
You really should become capable for your vote instead of...whatever it is that your doing.
- 3 years ago
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Vierotchka
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McCain's foreign policy is basically "bomb, bomb, bomb"...
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Vierotchka:
If that's all you heard and know about after two full years of this race then, you shouldn't vote as you're clearly not capable for your own governance.
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Tonight's debate is supposed to be about foreign policy, a subject that McCain might actually hold his own on, but with all that has happened in this past week there's no way the economy doesn't become the central issue.
That, I think, will be one of the keys for Obama tonight: Keeping the conversation focused on a glaring and salient-for-the-month weakness of his opponent.
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It's ON McCain!!! I'm so excited for this.
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SDLN
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Now I'm just hoping this doesn't turn out like the 2000 debates. Gore was known to be a gifted debater; Bush was known to be a dolt. Expectations were that the Vice President was going to slaughter the Governor. But when the slaughters failed to occur, Bush received bumps in the polls.
I hope the expectations don't get so high that anything short of making McCain look like a fool will be considered a failure. Because I don't think that's going to happen.
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SDLN:
Wow! You were right, McCain didn't look like a fool...it was NObama who came out looking like a socialist school boy.
But, then again, that's exactly what he was before he walked on stage.
- 3 years ago
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neocongo
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Wow. McCain is looking more and more like Linus from "Peanuts" walking in a cloud of confusion and leaving a trail of disaster wherever he goes.
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seanalyn
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Well Im sure glad McCain went to Washington and fixed up our economy right good!
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seanalyn:
Are you not at least interested to know how it got screwed up??
Plausible deniability? by Dr. John Lott 9/22/08
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425924,00.html
FOX Video Clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBRIsCkGQ0
Whose Policies Led To The Credit Crisis? by Ed Morrissey
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/16/whose-policies-led-to-the-credit-crisis/?p...
FOX Video Clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYz1rbB5V1s&feature=related - 3 years ago
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crob80227
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Look, I'm all for Affirmative Action and Equal Opportunity -- and I realize this is the first time in American history that that a person of no-color could be elected to the office of the President!
But the stakes are too high to risk voting in a 125 year old Albino midget (Hobbit?) just for the sake of political correctness or because we feel sorrow for him because his Shire was destroyed by the weird giant eye thing above Mount Doom.
I like McCain. I've always championed albino rights and the rights of Hobbits in general. There is a history of McCain's dwarf albino people being treated unfairly in Middle Earth, but this election is not the time or place to correct those historical wrongs.
Tonights debates will prove McCain is not ready to lead. He doesn't have the skills, the insights, the right policies to be the President we need right now. We thank him for his service and personal sacrafices in returning the ring of power to the fires of Mt. Doom, but McCain, frankly, just doesn't have the intelligence necessary to be the President that we need at this critical time in our country.
We need Obama!
- 3 years ago
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crob80227
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Winghunter
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crob80227:
As opposed to this??
Barack Obama's Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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Winghunter
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bansheewail
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Tomorrow will be a brand new day in America. Barack Obama will leave no doubt!! In the morning, the curtain will be lifted on this sham and everyone will see who the obvious choice for president is. McCain will get schooled. Barack will hand him a New-schooling, old school style. Saturday all the Rush Limbaugh fans will be talking about how the slick, black lawyer picked-on the old war hero, booo hooo. Then they will all come to realize that choosing an old war hero just for the sake of old war heroes is a poor choice. McCain will crash and burn, (again).
- 3 years ago
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bansheewail
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Winghunter
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bansheewail:
So much for your ability to predict...and write.
Have you thought about a career in the fast-food business??
- 3 years ago
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Winghunter
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bansheewail:
Winghunter, I've read what you keep giving links to. This guy is not much worse. He has as many facts as your sites do.
- 3 years ago
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beemans
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richjm
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I'm so glad about this. After Obama's response (and the killer line about presidents being able to do two things at once), McCain didn't really have any choice. There was no way he could give Obama the spotlight (and the massive audience) all for himself.
Stocking up on the coffee now to make sure I'm tweeting at 2am.
For us Brits, what both of them have to say on US foreign policy is of huge importance. If I could underline huge I would. Sooo... just imagine it's underlined.
- 3 years ago
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richjm
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richjm:
There is a way of emphasizing words when one cannot use bold, italics, or underline. It's a *great* way!
- 3 years ago
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Vierotchka
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richjm
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richjm:
It always feels like I'm being sarcastic when I emphasise like that. Like "Oh I just *loved* hearing both candidates plan to invade Iran tomorrow."
Just me? Okaaaaay.
- 3 years ago
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richjm
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LarzNero
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Even Whacky Mac realizes there's no point running from a spanking. You always get spanked in the end anyway. Time for your spanking Johnny.
- 3 years ago
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LarzNero
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LarzNero:
I'm almost interested to know how anyone could say that after NObama ran away from twelve ( thats 12 ) requests to debate townhall style from McCain...ohh, you didn't know.
Sucks when you dont do your homework, doesnt it.
You could start yours here;
Barack Obama's Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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Winghunter
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LarzNero:
June 8 McCain invited Obama for town hall debates. But when it came time for it to happen in New York via Mayor Bloomberg and ABC, BOTH candidates backed out, not just Obama.
Come on Wingnut, you can do better than this! I'm just a hack and this is too easy for me. Check the info below!
READ! LEARN SOMETHING!
Posted June 9, 2008 12:00 PM
The Swampby Mark Silva
So much for that right-out-of-the-box town hall faceoff between John McCain and Barack Obama.
The presidential campaigns have rejected an offer from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and ABC News to host the first town hall that McCain has proposed because they don't want the coverage limited to one television network.
McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, last week invited Obama to join him at 10 meetings in the coming months, and campaign managers on both sides said they had agreed in spirit to schedule some type of joint appearances.
"But the campaigns rejected a formal offer outlined in a letter from Bloomberg and ABC News on Sunday that envisioned kicking off the town hall series with a 90-minute, prime-time broadcast from New York,'' the Associated Press reports. "The campaigns said the candidates want the meetings open for broadcast on all television networks or on the Internet, rather than be sponsored by a single network or news organization.''
Bloomberg, the billionaire mayor who considered a campaign for president as an independent, has sought to hold onto the spotlight. A spokesman indicated Bloomberg would continue to have a hand in the town hall planning. And ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider said the network is open to discussing a wider distribution.
- 3 years ago
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beemans
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rabidlemur
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How many times will McCain say 9/11? I am betting on 13 cause its a lucky number.
- 3 years ago
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rabidlemur
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openwiide
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i was kinda hoping he wouldnt show up, that way obama could just come out on stage and without really saying anything just point over to where mccain should have been standing and just be like "you really want another MIA president?" ...and then throw a mic in true rockstar form.
i dreamt this last night.or maybe so he could debate nader and give us something to really talk about, instead of how ridiculous it is that people are actually planning on voting for mccain.
- 3 years ago
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openwiide
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openwiide:
Dreaming about the debates? Damn, you got it bad. :D
- 3 years ago
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mako2424
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openwiide:
"MIA"!?
So what do you call NObama running away from twelve debates requested by McCain??
Perhaps C-O-W-A-R-D?
- 3 years ago
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Winghunter
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ninepounds6
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What a shameful man. What a scam.
He straps on his cape, flys to Washington to help the country out of the mess he helped create, leaves them yelling at each other accross a table, and calls it progress. Now he swoops down to the podium to make his superman acceptance speech at the debates...
Alzhiemers is a terrible thing!
- 3 years ago
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ninepounds6
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ninepounds6:
I am sorry to hear of your illness but, I will give you the following links so you can take them with you to remind yourself;
Plausible deniability? by Dr. John Lott 9/22/08
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,425924,00.html
FOX Video Clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBRIsCkGQ0
Whose Policies Led To The Credit Crisis? by Ed Morrissey
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/16/whose-policies-led-to-the-credit-crisis/?p...
FOX Video Clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYz1rbB5V1s&feature=relatedLearn what pathetic truly looks like;
Barack Obama's Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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beemans
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ninepounds6:
Fox News as a source? Oh by now I expect better of you. Next you will give us a story from CNN.
Fact from a reliable source is worth a read. Fact from a news arena makes me annoyed your digit muscles were used to type it.
Get a massage.
- 3 years ago
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beemans
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sil
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mcsame is total junk!
- 3 years ago
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sil
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Winghunter
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sil:
...said the trashman.
- 3 years ago
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Winghunter
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beemans
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sil:
....to the trash.
- 3 years ago
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beemans
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SDLN
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McCain has used this political stunt before:
"You probably remember his suspension of the Republican National Convention's first day of business in order to raise funds and awareness for the victims of Hurricane Gustav (a move that, besides allowing umpteen convention speakers to praise McCain's selfless patriotism, neatly airbrushed the unpopular sitting president and vice president from the proceedings).
But McCain first used the tactic to spectacular effect way back in March 1999, when -- even though his White House run had been chugging along for five months -- he postponed the 'official announcement' of his candidacy so that the nation could focus as one on the week-old war in Kosovo. 'It's not appropriate at this time,' the somber senator said then, 'to launch a political campaign.'
How did that play out? As McCain's sympathetic first biographer, Robert Timberg, wrote, 'His decision amounted to a masterful political stroke.'
Overnight, McCain became the go-to guest on cable news shows, rallying the bipartisan cause for military intervention, urging his Senate colleagues to put patriotism ahead of party and saying he'd rather lose an election than lose a war. 'Professional politicians of both parties were wowed by McCain's beaugeste,' the Washington Post's Mary McGrory wrote at the time (as noted by Timberg). '[McCain] is getting yards of publicity for a non-event.'
With all that free media -- including separate appearances in a single day on Fox News, CNN, PBS, CNBC and MSNBC -- the Arizona senator's poll numbers shot up from the statistically insignificant to the respectable double digits. McCain enthusiast David Brooks, writing in these pages in February 2000, identified Kosovo as the metaphorical jumper cables on the Straight Talk Express. 'Suddenly,' Brooks wrote, 'McCain was being quoted all over. He emerged as the most prominent GOP voice on foreign affairs. As the Carnegie Endowment's Robert Kagan noted, Kosovo was the first primary and McCain won it.' "
- 3 years ago
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SDLN
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SDLN:
Almost interesting view you have there.
Tell us, oh wise one, what kind of stunt was it for NObama to duck twelve townhall style debates that McCain asked him for?? Me, I would call it a cowardly one.
You obviously need practice interpreting what you read, try this;
Barack Obama's Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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beemans
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SDLN:
Just to let you know, I checked out your web site. There is so much opinion enforced bull-shit it is unreal. Unlike your reference I prefer something that is worth a damn. Try libraryofcongress.org and actually read what these 2 candidates voted for and against. I make my opinion from fact, not some sorry hack article that means nothing. You can also check the Illinois state legislature web site for some clarity and truth.
Between these 2 candidates you will see they mostly vote on the same issues but disagree on some time lines or money values.
Educate yourself with fact. You will see McCain and OBama's lost years and what really ensued.
Also, as far as the town hall meetings....please see the below:
Posted June 9, 2008 12:00 PM
The Swampby Mark Silva
So much for that right-out-of-the-box town hall faceoff between John McCain and Barack Obama.
The presidential campaigns have rejected an offer from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and ABC News to host the first town hall that McCain has proposed because they don't want the coverage limited to one television network.
McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, last week invited Obama to join him at 10 meetings in the coming months, and campaign managers on both sides said they had agreed in spirit to schedule some type of joint appearances.
"But the campaigns rejected a formal offer outlined in a letter from Bloomberg and ABC News on Sunday that envisioned kicking off the town hall series with a 90-minute, prime-time broadcast from New York,'' the Associated Press reports. "The campaigns said the candidates want the meetings open for broadcast on all television networks or on the Internet, rather than be sponsored by a single network or news organization.''
Bloomberg, the billionaire mayor who considered a campaign for president as an independent, has sought to hold onto the spotlight. A spokesman indicated Bloomberg would continue to have a hand in the town hall planning. And ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider said the network is open to discussing a wider distribution.
- 3 years ago
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beemans
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These debates will be McCain's last chance to prove he's not completely incompetent and Obama's last chance to prove he's not a fraud.
- 3 years ago
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hollowman218
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Winghunter
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hollowman218:
Too late for NObama...seen his past yet?
Barack Obamas Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senators tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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Winghunter
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beemans
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hollowman218:
Just to let you know, I checked out your web site. There is so much opinion enforced bull-shit it is unreal. Unlike your reference I prefer something that is worth a damn. Try libraryofcongress.org and actually read what these 2 candidates voted for and against. I make my opinion from fact, not some sorry hack article that means nothing. You can also check the Illinois state legislature web site for some clarity and truth.
Between these 2 candidates you will see they mostly vote on the same issues but disagree on some time lines or money values.
Educate yourself with fact. You will see McCain and OBama's lost years and what really ensued.
- 3 years ago
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beemans
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abbym0308
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Ha! Those guys at Cracked.com put together a graphic representation of how to with the debate.
- 3 years ago
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abbym0308
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eldamon
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Keep diggin' that hole Johnny boy.
- 3 years ago
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eldamon
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eldamon:
Yes, NObama is rather tall, isnt he.
Learn grasshopper;
Barack Obama's Lost Years by Stanley Kurtz
The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
08/11/2008
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp - 3 years ago
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Winghunter
