News and Politics | September 27, 2008 | 18 comments

Hey everyone! Did you know you have a choice?

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FallenMorgan
Most of us vote for the Republicans or the Democrats, but what people don't realize is that we have other options. The third parties have their own solutions to problems, and they're adults like anyone else. The media treats them like they're little kids playing dress-up, while the big boys play real politics.

Please do some research into the third parties before you vote this November. I know they will not win this year, but if more people started supporting them, we could oneday see a Libertarian or Green president, or even, logic and reason-forbid, a Constitutionalist president.

Oh and, for those who read my last post on this blog, I appologize for the use of a poster by the Nazi Party of Switzerland. I didn't know. I can't read German.

Back to this, imagine if you could only choose between two brands of milk, and both were old and stale and full of cow shit. That's what the two major parties are like. We need fresh ideas in the white house.
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18 comments // Hey everyone! Did you know you have a choice?

  • Dmitri_Molotov
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • Good idea in theory and I would support it if more people were ready for it. But sad fact is that is hard enough to get enough people to cooperate to even support 1 party let alone 3.

      The trouble is that there are few enough qualified to be able to handle the job and the system is set up to make it hardest to get the most qualified into office.

      Part of that is because that there are people that are at some many different stages of development that make it so hard to cooperate since they have different values and different viewpoints.

      As Ken Wilber goes into in the video some of the difficulties in getting a true 3rd way of doing politics together.

    • 4 years ago
  • HolyCity2012
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      HolyCity2012  
    • "It's time to embrace logic and deny McCain"

      Ron Paul voters; Nader voters; Barr voters; McKinney voters; it's time to embrace logic and deny McCain power by voting Obama.

      We love our country and our liberty.... the "right" just socialized Wall Street again... and it's taking away our futures and our grandkids' money... we are all... who have brains in our heads... pissed off about this stuff. The problem with libertarian & green party logic is that, while it is beneficial in the long run, it does us no good in the short term. And things need some immediate attention! Sometimes we have to make short term corrections for our long term health.

      It is also true that while those votes for Barr, Paul ... Nader... McKinney... can really register a resounding "Protest", they most certainly help John McCain... because they are a vote for change from the Lesses Fair Crowd that has been deregulating everything for 30 years.

      Perhaps we should acknowledge together that both parties have indulged in Empire and crimes around the globe... but lets get real... PARTIES are ARTIFICIAL constructions... what we really have here is LIBERTY and the HUMAN BEINGS who *do good* with it and those that *do HARM.* Right now the ones that do the MOST HARM are allied with the ARTIFICIAL CONSTRUCT called the REPUBLICAN party.

      So *we the people* sent money to the guy who was NOT Hillary Clinton(Family Dynasty)...and seemed like he could win.

      Barack Obama.

      And he is far more answerable to us than Phil Gramm's collection of Wall Street Golden Shower...er parachute ... fat cats.

      That's logic we can TAKE ACTION on... and see results in the next couple of years instead of the next couple of decades.

      We will have lots of protesting and work to do regardless... but it will be much easier and less bloody.

      Then we can get back to disagreeing about socialism.

    • 4 years ago
  • Reeseismyname
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      Reeseismyname  
    • In such a vital election this is no place to try to make a point about our mostly 2 part system. If we fuck up this election we'll have a lot more problems to deal with... the milk will all be splattered on the ground.

    • 4 years ago
  • FallenMorgan
  • HolyCity2012
  • cantucwearebrothers
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      cantucwearebrothers  
    • Reeseismyname:

      The election is already fucked up. Will there even be an election? Will the Republicans cheat, lie and steal through their system of no paper trails and prohibitive voting?

      People should not be backed into a corner. Whether or not you choose to exercise your right to vote is your own decision. As well as who you vote for.

    • 4 years ago
  • JohnA
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      JohnA [removed]  
    • Anyone voting for a candidate they don't think is ready to be President is crazy. I have always voted Democrat, but there is no way I would ever vote for Obama. Just running anybody off the street and putting a "D" behind their name, and then expecting us to vote for them is insane.

    • 4 years ago
  • Alexander_ML_Jones
  • sambass
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      sambass  
    • A 3rd party is a waste of a vote. If your simply voting because you don't like the two choices, then don't vote in the presidential election, but do vote in the other races.

    • 4 years ago
  • FallenMorgan
  • Brockie
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      Brockie  
    • sambass:

      In a perfect world according to "political theory", weighing all the pro's and con's of all the candidates and voting for the very best person is a wonderful thing. But we all live in the "real" word where Washington is corrupt. The whole federal government is corrupt. In Washington money talks, and politicians listen. Having said that we really do have only a 2 party system. Candidates can run under a 3rd. party. But the fact of the matter is, there is no way any 3rd. party candidate can ever get anywhere near enough votes to ever be elected President of the United States.

    • 4 years ago
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • sambass:

      But that is only half of it. Even if you were to take the corruption out of it, then you would still need a "perfectly informed voter" for that idea to work.

      That is part of the "status quo" also it is a lot harder to change than just offering a few more politicians to choose from.

      It means also changing the system that enforces the "status quo" through the people that have to most to gain from keeping it the way it is

      Plus getting something to change the inertia of tradition and incentives to motivate them to want it.

    • 4 years ago
  • intelligenceisacurse
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      intelligenceisacurse  
    • listen guys.
      I am a third party sort of guy.
      I dont like the dictatorship of America.

      but the citizens here are brainwashed.
      for real.

      I am serious.

      you will need far, far more than small articles to make
      any sort of change.

      our dems and repubs are like the mob.

      they own the media, the courts, the judges, the congress,
      the military, and the minds of the public.

      you will need nothing short of a massive bombing
      or an invasion to break that hold.

    • 4 years ago
  • HolyCity2012
  • mariposablanca
  • cantucwearebrothers
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      cantucwearebrothers  
    • I've seen posts on other threads that say voting for a 3rd party is stealing a vote from either Obama or McCain. What a load of crap. It's my vote and I will cast it as I see fit.

      It would be in poor judgement not to investigate every possible candidate. How can you make a proper decision otherwise.

      Knowledge is power. You have the power!!!

    • 4 years ago
  • fighttheNWO
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