Coulter: Blame minority housing law for meltdown
source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/01/conservatives-seek-to-shi_n_131020.html
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But it has fallen to right-wing pundit Ann Coulter to blaze a truly simple path through the maze of credit derivatives, collateralized loan obligations, tranches, securitization transactions, and Thomson Financial League Tables.
This gentle lady spells out the source and origin of the current economic crisis:
"THEY GAVE YOUR MORTGAGE TO A LESS QUALIFIED MINORITY!"
Coulter is putting forward an argument popular (who could be surprised?) among besieged conservatives, that "social engineering" is the root cause of the current economic crisis -- in the form of a 31-year-old law passed during the Carter administration by a Democratic Congress, the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, "intended to encourage depository institutions to help meet the credit needs of the communities in which they operate, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods, consistent with safe and sound operations."
In Coulter's words, traditional yardsticks of a mortgage applicant's ability to make payments were replaced with "nontraditional measures of credit-worthiness, such as having a good jump shot or having a missing child named 'Caylee';" the result, Coulter continues, is that "middle-class taxpayers are going to be forced to bail out the Democrats' two most important constituent groups: rich Wall Street bankers and welfare recipients."
To make sure her meaning is clear, Coulter echoes a line from the famous anti-affirmative action "White Hands" commercial Jesse Helms used in his 1990 campaign against black challenger Harvey Gantt. The ad shows a pair of white hands crumpling a job rejection slip as the voiceover intones, "You needed that job, you were the best qualified. But they have to give it to a minority because of a racial quota."
Coulter is in the forefront of a concerted drive to shift...
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Muadib
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The vast majority of the almost 2 million in mortgage failiars crisis are white, not black or Hispanic.
Statistics prove people who applies and recieved their mortgages through a CRA program were qualified, and are still making their payments.
Let alone the fact that CRA has been around 30 years and over 1 Trillion in good loans. Using race is such a sad and ignorant excuse for greedy people that saw a way to make money and let it out of control.
And by the way I am latino and I am sick of the notion that we are minorities or Poor which is far from the case. I earn easily 6 figures in an opening racist environment but because I work hard I succeed.
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Muadib
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extremepain
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Ann Coulter doesn't scare me, it is the quiet group that hang on her every word that are scary. I seriously doubt Coulter even believes half of her drivel, but it sells books, so she shocks away.
When I bought my house for $189,000 in 2003, insurance appraised it at $210,000. I had to go with an ARM loan since I was relocating unexpectedly and didn't have ready funds for a down payment.
No problem I thought, and my realtor had told me that in Rochester, MN, home of Mayo Clinic, housing values rose quickly and consistently, and most people either flipped the house in 3 years, or refinanced with cash to spare.
I got in at 4.5%, then in late 2005, as we approached the 3rd year jump, the bottom fell out, and I could only get 85% loan to value. On top of that the appraised value had fallen from $210,000 down to $169,000. This is after I had put in 5 grand worth of permanent vinyl privacy fence.
January, 06 I became disabled and we lost 70% of our income. Shortly after that the rate hike kicked in. Was it 2 or 3 percent? Nope, it was 6%, so with a 70% loss of income, my interest rate was now 10.5%. We tried to sell obviously, but with the loss of home values, I barely could get any lookers, even at 170k.
We moved to my parent's farm and got a cheap trailer to live in while we await action in our SSDI case. I know my realtor continued to try, but I never heard another word from the realtor or the mortgage company, so I assume it was auctioned, but I really have no idea. It was heartbreaking because it was what we had always worked towards.
It didn't only hurt to lose our dream home, it was also embarrassing to have to move away from our house and friends in such a fashion. Had I not become disabled, we would have been able to keep it, but I damn well would have made the lender come to the table, given the market shift, but it's all about water under the bridge.
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extremepain
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Mark701
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Coulters "analysis" convieniently overlooks the fact that only 20% of the financial institutions that handed out subprime loans we obligated under the CRA. Even those so obligated were never expected to hand out so many sub prime loans that their financial stability would be put at risk. Of course Ann Coulter is never one to let the facts stand in the way of inflammatory diatribe or a new book deal. This woman should be stripped of her citizenship and launched to Pluto in a spaceship without sanitary facilities.
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Mark701
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nursehelen
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Michael Savage is far worse and far more frightening
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nursehelen
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AbsolutelyCold
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That woman is such a bitch, pardon my language. Since a few years ago and she said what she said in this interview stopped me from ever seeing her as anythings other than hell spawn. (Only watch the video is you are okay being pissed off for a while!)
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AbsolutelyCold
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kennymotown
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She's always trying to say controversal things just to get our backs. Just a bitch.
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kennymotown
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isnamthere
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When you look up "douchebag" in the dictionary you'll see the picture that accompanies this article.
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isnamthere
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aliquid_
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We do know America has given loans with high interest rates out to people who couldn't afford to pay it back !! But also minorities, Low income families ,etc.. made decisions on taking these kinds of loans simply to get a piece of the "american dream" knowingly they will be paying a higher substancial payment for the life of the loan...
It not only damaged minorites and low-income families but it went up the ladder - alot of " so-called higher positions were actually making killing profits before this meltdown started.
The majority of profits were coming in from these types of high intrest loans ( house, auto, business), to the greed of all kinds of loansharks, housing developers, hugh construction firms, financial insitutions, even big furniture and appliance centers etc..were cashing it in for quite some time - it didn't happen overnight.....
Now the Bank are not just raising low-income families and minorities loans, but all other commercial, industrial -basically any kind of loans as well to try to make up money that has been "Skimmed" off the top and hasn't been audited for years!!$$$ Ann Coulter instead of trying to point out both sides of an issue, she only focuses on one mainly of low-income families and minorities in order to sell her books and is looking for another spot on LARRY KING LIVE and CNN!!! I honestly believe that Ann Coutler and Al Sharpton are probably either good friends or some kind or associates behind the scenes when it comes to money,money,money $$$
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aliquid_
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sktoday
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What a crock of sh&t. This lady is so full of crap I can't believe people give her a platform for such political nonsense. She should marry Rush Limbaugh, oh wait he is secretly dating Senator Craig.
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sktoday
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dissimulator
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she scares me
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dissimulator
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anikhanj
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Someone please shoot her in the face already.
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anikhanj
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kirru
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anikhanj:
someone has to do that...lol.
the world could be a little peaceful without her.... - 3 years ago
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kirru
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onechance
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That's that dude from chickswithdicks.org right?
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onechance
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rachelmaechel
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Wow. This is awesome. I hate this bitch too. It's good to see so many other people who are on the same page:)
These are some of the most hilareous responses I have ever seen. Usually I get angry when I hear anything about him. But I can't stop laughing right now.You all have made my day.
Thanks!!
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rachelmaechel
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UWAZell
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Coulter has a policy of making unintelligent comments purely for shock value. I refer everyone back to her degrading comments about Canada post the 9/11 attacks.
The best thing FAUXNews could do, aside from being unfair and unbalanced, is rid the viewing public of her presence.
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UWAZell
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aswift1
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what an embarrasment to american women...
americans in general...
and all literate people around the world...
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aswift1
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onechance
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Every time Ann Coulter opens her mouth, America gets collectively dumber.
Thanks so much she-man.
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onechance
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needu
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Wow, and I could have sworn that everybody I have seen being interviewed on TV were white middle class people! Millions of minorities huh? Wow. Are you kidding me? There are entire housing developments that are empty and entire neighborhoods abandoned! I guess Ed McMahon is black too huh? Man, I sure feel stupid cuz I thought all these years he was white!
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needu
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ninepounds6
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About that, there is little doubt, she is a racist. But I have a hard time blaming just the finanacial institutions for this mess. Everyone who signed those crap loans are at least partially responsible in my eyes.
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ninepounds6
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ninepounds6:
ninepounds the people who signed for those loans are just as bogus as the banks who talked them into doing so.
Why would you let someone into your house if you know that they will set it on fire?
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onechance
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ninepounds6:
I agree rachael.
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onechance
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matthewcohen
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ninepounds - you're being a naive white person.
She does not have a point. She's a bigoted racist.
You're point is astute - there is plenty of blame to go around. That, however, is not Ms Coulter's point.
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matthewcohen
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ninepounds6
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This is rediculous, she has a point!
The banks loaned money to anyone willing to build, then they loaned money to anyone willing to buy them. They over built, then had a surplus, then made bad loans to anyone willing to sign. Period.
You can blame builders, lenders, banks, mortgage companies, politicians, and the bozos that were making $12 an hour that signed these rediculous ARM's and other far-fetched loans and mortgages, or you can blame everyone.
It was greed, pure and simple, on everyone's part. And yes, minorities got loans that would not have a decade ago, and yes, with the help of Obama and the supporters of ACORN and a lot of other outfits and programs that pushed loans to lower income families.
But if you want to blame minorities alone, then you have to blame ALL of them, but it would not be fair to exclude all the white people that signed bad loans too. But blaming low income familes for signing bad loan paperwork they most likely did not understand is silly.... the lending institutions knew what they were doing, and knew it was a bubble that would blow up in a matter of years.
There is plenty of blame to go around, and human greed is the culprit.
I still argue for no bailout of any kind, but Congress will do the bidding of their masters, and appear to have already done so!
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ninepounds6
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eldamon
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She's late to the game, Rep. Bachmann of Minnesota and the idtiots at Faux Snews have already made this assertion.
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eldamon
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matthewcohen
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I'm voting this down because i don't want to give her credibility or airtime.
Obviously she's a racist bigot media whore who will say anything to get attention. Pitiful.
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matthewcohen
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Argon18
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Well with at least 11 factors to blame in the crisis it is more a matter of degree of blame than any one aspect so the point is finding the root cause responsible than just assigning personal responsibility.
No one controls or even "is responsible" for the system. You don't fix the system by punishing or changing the people. You fix the system by changing the processes within the system.
Find the root causes of problems and fix them. This translates to: incentives that are linked to behaviors we desire; measuring outcomes that we want; and requiring ALL decisions, to be evidence-based with proper feedback.
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Argon18
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MeganMcKenzie
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Racist remarks that are divisive.
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TopScruffy
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That picture grosses me out.
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TopScruffy
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Argon18
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I guess Coulter has to pick her favorite scapegoat to get the attentions she craves regardless of any facts.
Here's what Factcheck had to say about the subject to bring some balance to it
So who is to blame? There's plenty of blame to go around, and it doesn't fasten only on one party or even mainly on what Washington did or didn't do. As The Economist magazine noted recently, the problem is one of "layered irresponsibility ... with hard-working homeowners and billionaire villains each playing a role." Here's a partial list of those alleged to be at fault:
The Federal Reserve, which slashed interest rates after the dot-com bubble burst, making credit cheap.
Home buyers, who took advantage of easy credit to bid up the prices of homes excessively.
Congress, which continues to support a mortgage tax deduction that gives consumers a tax incentive to buy more expensive houses.
Real estate agents, most of whom work for the sellers rather than the buyers and who earned higher commissions from selling more expensive homes.
The Clinton administration, which pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements for working- and middle-class families.
Mortgage brokers, who offered less-credit-worthy home buyers subprime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but exploding interest rates.
Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who in 2004, near the peak of the housing bubble, encouraged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages.
Wall Street firms, who paid too little attention to the quality of the risky loans that they bundled into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.
The Bush administration, which failed to provide needed government oversight of the increasingly dicey mortgage-backed securities market.
An obscure accounting rule called mark-to-market, which can have the paradoxical result of making assets be worth less on paper than they are in reality during times of panic.
Collective delusion, or a belief on the part of all parties that home prices would keep rising forever, no matter how high or how fast they had already gone up.
The U.S. economy is enormously complicated. Screwing it up takes a great deal of cooperation. Claiming that a single piece of legislation was responsible for (or could have averted) is just political grandstanding. We have no advice to offer on how best to solve the financial crisis. But these sorts of partisan caricatures can only make the task more difficult.
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Argon18
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HolyCity2012
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The guy in the above picture can't be all that conservative if he has long hair.
And he has to have a big penis, just look at the size of his hands!
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
One a serious note, If anyone is looking to lay blame on anyone outside of the Federal Reserve then they are A.uniformed, B.bias, C.liar...
and a threat to our liberty as citizens of the United States of America.
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
He doesn't have long hair, and one cannot see his hands. I think you're seeing what you want to see.
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HolyCity2012:
Oh, if you're referring to that anorexic monster Ann Coulter, she is not a man. She obviously has a hyperactive thyroid gland - she has all the symptoms: skinny, nasty character, meanness, and slight exophtalmia. I don't like the woman at all, I despise her viewpoints and her writings, but to be fair and balanced, she is not a man and never was one.
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Vierotchka
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khromadjo
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I would love to see the vacant-minded sheep that actually buy her books...I could use a good laugh.
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khromadjo:
ohhh....Crosswalk, smoshwalk.
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TeamBoo
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khromadjo
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Catch U Next Tuesday, Ann!
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khromadjo
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crob80227
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Dan, er, I mean Ann is implying that there was some kind of "rule" that forced (keyword: forced) banks and mortgage brokers to give out bad loans.
Bullshit.
If a guy making $12/hr applies for $ 400,000 mortgage....there is no "rule" or "law" that forced that mortgage broker to approve that application.
Them sons-o-bitches were just greedy.
And, more importantly, they had a plan to pawn that bad loan off on someone else before the shit hit the fan as they knew it inevitably would.
They got a big commission out of selling the mortgage and then protected themselves from the risk of defualt by bundling that mortgage together with other loans and SELLING that bundle to an unsuspecting 3rd party who believed that bundle was highly rated and secure.
It was a scam.
No one "forced" innocent mortgage brokers at gunpoint to approve high-risk loans.
Dan, er, Ann and the rest of the idiot Republicans are desperately trying to spin this so it doesn't look like its their fault....yet their religion of deregulation is at the heart of the problem!
The only reason they felt it was okay to approve those loans is because they were allowed to SELL them to others (before the defaults occured) and thus avoid the fallout when the guy making $12/hr eventually defaulted.
Since there was no accounting, oversight or documentation to protect the buyers of these bad loans being sold by the mortgage brokers....companies bought them.
This is 100 percent a Republican problem.
People say: its the fault of the person who took out a loan he knew he couldn't afford.
Wrong -- being stupid about money doesn't change the fact that people who WEREN'T STUPID like the mortgage brokers approved it anyway.
The mortgage brokers knew.
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crob80227:
This is the best explanation I’ve heard:
Let’s say I own 5 cars worth $10,000 each.
5 people come to me – all of them earning $6/hr – and offer to buy the cars with $500 down and financing. They promise to pay $50 a month for the first year and then beginning year 2 that monthly payment will go up to $400 a month.
I approve all 5 applications and collect $2,500 in cash and over the next 6 months I collect another $1500 in monthly payments.
I KNOW that within 6 months all of these buyers are going to default because none of them can afford to pay $400 a month once the rates change.
So I sell the financing to someone else.
“I’ve got 5 cars being financed and earning 25 percent interest a year. If you buy these loans from me for $2,000 you’ll get the loans and see a monthly income from the loans of $400 a month. Pay me $2,000 now and you’ll own these 5 cars loans and earn a net income from them of $2000 a MONTH. That’s $24,000 every year for the next few years! Not a bad investment.”
Since there is no regulation or oversight or accounting laws the buyer has to take my word for it that I thoroughly vetted each of the 5 car loans. And why wouldn’t they believe me? Surely I wouldn’t have issued such loans in the first place if I knew the people couldn’t handle the payments, right.
So I got $2,500 in cash plus another $1500 in payments AND another $2,000 from selling the loans.
Once the rates changed the new owner of those loans saw all the money stop coming in. Everyone defaulted and stopped paying.
I earned all the money and the sucker who bought those loans got stuck with nothing.
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crob80227:
What you failed to mention is, now the car is no longer worth $10,000 not that it ever was, but it has a book value of $7,500. Once the buyer sees his payments go up to $400.00 per month, they try to sell the car, or have someone assume the loan, to get out from under the loan, but nobody want to pay $10,000 for a $7,500 car, especially with a $400.00 a month payment.
The lender forecloses on the car loan. He has value for his loan, the car. You in the meantime have sold thousands of cars nationwide under the same "Predatory" practices, and lenders all over the nation are foreclosing on your cars. Soon the market that is already flooded with cars becomes gorged with foreclosed cars and the value of all cars drop 30%. Now...the lender, stuck with your $7,500 car that now has a depreciated value of $5,400 stops lending.
It doesn't mean the bank does not have money, they just refuse to lend it. Now do we throw 700 Billion dollars at the bank in hopes that he starts lending again? Or do we establish rules and regulations that prevent you from selling cars based on Predatory practices? I believe knowing I am no longer going to be stuck with a bad loan, I would start lending quicker that receiving a huge bailout of capital knowing that once that capital is spent, I will again be buying your bad car loans, because after all that is how I make money.
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crob80227:
It sounds like a great scam if you get in on the ground floor of it. Ha ha. And, of course, you get out before it all goes south.
I wish I had a ton of money so that I could start working crooked deals like that.
I was thinking about this the other day: forget playing the stock market, the return on stocks is nothing compared to the return you get on credit cards and loans!
If I won the lottery I wouldn't invest in stocks. I would start my own credit card company!
You can either get a measly 6 percent on a $5,000 worth of stocks OR you could get 35 percent on a $5,000 credit card!
No wonder banks were falling all over themselves to give everyone credit.
It's a helluva an investment.....so long as people actually pay their bills.
If people stop paying, man, you just bought a whole lotta junk bonds that are now worth less than the paper they are printed on.
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crob80227
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crob80227:
No, it is true. My father was a Banker for thirty years. The CRA did force banks into making some loans that they would not have normally made. It is by no means the only problem, by far. But it did contribute.
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csmonut
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Coulter's a bimbo.
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csmonut
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Marilynn_Murray
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Tip Ann Colter over and let' s see if she can legally use the women' s restroom. There has to be a reason she is so vicious.
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Marilynn_Murray:
The reason is a hyperactive, enlarged thyroid gland - she has all the signs of that condition: a nasty and mean character, excessive skinniness, an enlarged thyroid gland which many people mistakenly think is an adam's apple, and exophtalmia.
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Vierotchka
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TerryA
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Every time Ann opens her mouth something stupid falls out.
If her analysis of the the situation was correct then the only homes in foreclosure would be those in the lowest of economic neighborhoods. This is not the case. There are foreclosures within every socio economic group and region of America.
When you sit down and apply for a new home loan and your loan officer at the bank starts the loan process by leading you into an "Adjustable Rate Mortgage", guaranteeing you that interest rates will be coming down very soon, starts the process that has lead us into the situation this country is in today.
If you are a first time home buyer the offer of a lower initial interest rate with the promise of another reduction on the horizon is very attractive. If your a more savvy borrower, and refuse the "ARM", the next rule in the bankers play book is to offer you a fixed rate mortgage at 4 to 5.5 points above prime. Now your looking at 6.9% to 7.25% for a fixed mortgage in a market of 6% to 6.5% loans. He just offered you 5.75% on the "ARM". So you take the "ARM". Then surprise!!!! Your "ARM" jumps to 7.75%, your house payment has gone from $1,100.00 per month on your $250,000 mortgage to $1,900.00 per month.
Now, in the meantime, because of all the other home foreclosures in your area, your $280,000 home is only selling for $195,000. You can't sell it, you can't afford it, so you abandon it.
It's called "PREDATORY" lending, plain and simple. It draws no regional or ethnic lines in the sand, it is an equal opportunity ripoff.
But hey,,,Ann will say anything and blame anybody when the Republican party and its candidates are tanking nation wide.
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TerryA:
You forgot about the PMI. I wish I had a loan as good as the one you described. I paid more than 1,200 for a 100,000 loan!
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needu
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The bail-out boondoggle is based on an upside down view of the problem that puts the cart before the horse. The key to understanding the economic problem and solution is that the real estate market tanked, and that is why the loans are upside down, or not worth face value, not the other way around. Say in 2005 a house price was $250,000, and lots of folks rushed to get a $200,000 or $250,000 loan, because the rates were low, the economy, jobs, income was booming, lots of upward mobility, and prices were rising, as they always had in real estate, so it seemed like a good bet... then the FED got scared about inflation, so raised the rates ... every month for about a year and a half, until the real estate market screached to a halt, then hack politicians like Schumer started scapegoating and threatening lenders using a few examples of ignorant borrowers swindled by mortgage hucksters., a story as old as used car salesmen and crooked lawyers. But this go around. the banks became the bad-guys for lending money, especiially when wallstreet speculators wanted the casino to make good on thier lost bets, so what did Banks do? the Banks stopped lending, .turning home mortgages from the safest investment in the world to toxic waste.... this is what caused the real estate market to really melt down, no money, no buyers, so the $250,000 house is now worth $100,000 and the homeowner/borrower is begging the bank to take it back, so they can buy the same house next door and cut thier mortgage payments in half, which they must do because thier jobs and incomes have also fallen. On top of all this other housing expenses - taxes, utlities, and homeowner insurance spiked over the same time frame, exactly when household incomes and wealth/equity were dropping. Home equity is the main form of household wealth, so america is now poorer, thus spending less, while burnded by higher housing and gas costs, with little disposible income left over, this is spiraling down demand, employment and incomes - this is the key to our sluggish economy.
The FED tried too little too late to get the banks to lend by giving them a really low discount rate, below 2%, but the banks instead borrow billions and speculate on wallstreet, just as other wallstreet invstors migrated out of mortgage back securities to driving up the price of commodities, like Oil futures, causing gas prices and inflation to rise.
The answer to this problem is very simple. Instead of bailing out Goldman Sacs executives, and thier kind, fund FHA to lend directly to homeowners at very low rates, similar to the 2% the banks already borrow at. This costs little, because the fed is already lending banks bazillions at these low rates, but the discount window 'tool' is futile if banks do not in turn lend as intended. We can eliminate the middle men and go directly to FHA mortgage loans and fix the problem. Allow homeowners to refi at the short sale value of thier home so they can keep thier home instead of buying the house next door. The effect will be to reduce the mortgage and housing costs of the middle class under the FHA umbrella. This will immediately restore household incomes, the housing market, home equity, wealth, and employment to the middle class..
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FRED4JUSTICE:
Ya suppose they planned this?
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FRED4JUSTICE:
Planned it??? nah, they just abolished the laws to prevent this and started giving out loans that didnt need any info on income or assets to approve it........
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tanyetta
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I can't believe she still has her mouth to even make a sound or her hands to even scribble.
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tanyetta
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MrMarxist
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She's still alive? I thought she died around the same time as her credibility. Wow, something new everyday.
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