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Lost in translation? LA Times article 'The politics of spunk'

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Slight nuance in the use of the word between us and our US cousins by the look of things.

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26 comments // Lost in translation? LA Times article 'The politics of spunk'

  • sandeoncurrent
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • Here is the list you guys requested.
      14 Biden Lies.

      1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

      2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

      3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

      4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

      5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

      6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

      7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

      8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

      9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

      10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

      11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

      12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

      13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

      14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

      BTW this is a summary. Each of these issues can be expanded into what here would take up a full page.
      Let me know if you need that too.

      I

    • 3 years ago
  • sandeoncurrent
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      sandeoncurrent  
    • arcticspirit:

      u lie like a fish man, or woman, if these are lies. please show me what mccain/palin plans are..have we seen them yet? analyze that..
      coz all they r doing now is shooting blanks..negavite ads. coz they've got nothing left. please tell mccain to make an ad explaining just one of his plans on healthcare,economy or even the war. please..then come back and maybe u'll have something to compare the so called 'lies'

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • dude... arial wolf hunting & sex?
      you need more related topics here on the right....
      there aren't enough.
      How could one ever find something about Palin, without typing Palin in the search?
      You are so right, we could be thinking of sex. Or aerial wolf hunting, or worse so you better add extras. and lots more for the liberal who can't remember her name.

      Wow. you rock man.

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • GatorMonkey:

      The crab... now that cracks me up is it gonna eat the stuff on the table or is it trying to read the tasteful picture book of "Alaska"? And who would leave the full head on the bear if it isn't a rug? That photo is awesome!

      Does Ikea have any of that? I want to new stuff. Phofur of course, but something to get all warm and wild in. Yeah.

      Thanks for posting it. I needed to laugh.

      Too much negative energy here.

    • 3 years ago
  • jahbini
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      jahbini  
    • Good observation, arctic spirit. You mentions 14 issues.

      Please let me know the essence of these lies, what is the actual truth that Sarah is needing to convey?

      OK? I'll be happy to check on it, but I'm not clued into the direct sources that you have access to.

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
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      GatorMonkey  
    • jahbini:

      Thank you! Factcheck.org went through the debate. They only found 4 misquotes on Bidens part. Please, enlighten us on the other 10 since you (artic) seem to be so much more informed than professionals.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • Biden was lieing his ass off, and she did keep correcting him.. and even after she corrected him, he went back and AGAIN continued to LIE to the LIBERALS that TRUST HIM none less than on 14 different issues.

      Why, to win a debate? And liberals bought the lies hook line and sinker. They said he was glorious.

      If someone lies to me on purpose, I am not that gracious, I will actually be pretty upset and probably not want to see that person in office or anywhere else for that matter.

      So, yeah maybe that turned her stomach. I was disgusted by his lack of being able to tell the simple truth.

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
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      GatorMonkey  
    • arcticspirit:

      Gee, would you be talking about when she corrected him on the bankrupcy issue?

      Where Biden pointed out that McCain was opposed? And She said no and then WENT ON TO A TOTALLY DIFFERENT TOPIC

      because she had no idea what she was talking about.

      But wait... it gets better!

      she was later proved wrong... and Biden was correct the whole time?

      Is that one of the issues you were thinking of?

    • 3 years ago
  • jahbini
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      jahbini  
    • Just an observation, but the 'smile' Palin is showing as she winks is not quite a smile.

      The sideways pull of the left cheek could be identified by some (Dr John Gottman of "the Marriage Clinic" and Dr Paul Ekman "Emotions Revealed" pg 185) as contempt or disgust.

      Check it out and tell me if I'm off base.

    • 3 years ago
  • VegaNerDiva
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      VegaNerDiva  
    • jahbini:

      Your probably correct, would love for anyone that is skilled at face reading, Chinese or otherwise to chime in as well.

      None of her smiles look very genuine to me. Maybe it's the vaseline on the teeth trick that beauty contestants use or the way there is no crinkle in her eyes when she flashes her pearly whites..

      Still not as scary as Mccain's creepy dentures & his Dementia ridden smile.

    • 3 years ago
  • VegaNerDiva
  • Owwmykneecap
  • Nozlo
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      Nozlo  
    • The last sentence in this article is eloquent indeed, "...voters may decide that they want more in a vice president than someone like themselves." You betcha!

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
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      GatorMonkey  
    • Nozlo:

      Naaahhh, I'd love a guy who is proud to call himself Joe Six Pack at the head of our country. I bet the white house is a great place for a kegger... right? rrriiigghhttt?

      ;D ;D

    • 3 years ago
  • AndreaKnoll
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      AndreaKnoll  
    • Yes, in England, spunk is the stuff men ejaculate, so it cracks me up to hear Palin talk about it. It's the one thing I agree with her on –– we could all do with more spunk!

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
  • abbym0308
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