Final McCain and Obama debate, scathing but personal

please don't even think that way. Although, doubtfull, it is still a probability, with what happened in florida.

then plain, oops palin would be president

agreed. His anger is going to burst another thing in his body.

Joe, you're rich, congratulations.

The strategy reminded me of an old Pistons player Bill Lambier (spelling?) who if a member of the other team came anywhere near him , he would fall to the floor and writhe in feigned agony and had many fouls called by this method. It was an artform that he really mastered and was very entertaining. McCain did the same thing tonight in his own .old brokedown way.Just as stupid.Bills freethrows were nothin' but net, McCain , nothin' but air.

yeah...

well they certainly not entertaining. maybe next time they in 2012 they should have circus olley perform in the background of the debate.

I lol'd

Doesn't it seem that that character is the most unbelievably stereotypical lower class persona? They were totally using "JOE" to personify the lower class.

Well put

A very large percentage of Americans are indeed stupid. No matter the race, there are many stupid people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PgV3_1_qlc

i agree with mmoore. i remember when someone said that American idol gets more votes than the presidential election and frankly i'd like to keep it that way. I don't want some idiot voting for the wrong person because of some catchy jingle, or advertisment on Television, or what someone said on an internet blog. It's all about the fallacy of immediacy these days. information, food, education, even breath mints where all you have to do is place a strip on your tongue. what i'm saying is make a rational judgement and research the stuff before you say it.

I understand what you are saying. Who cares about who said what. How do they plan to help the American people.

God Bless you and your family, after 3 years of waiting, losing our house and lots of dignity, I finally was made aware that I was approved for Social Security Disability just this week.

I will pray for you and your family, SSDI is the most messed up system for people who have the tragedy of disability.

There needs to be a complete restructuring of Social Security, and I do really pray you don't have to go through the entire 3-4 yr process like we did. It nearly broke our family, we moved from a 3,000sq ft house to a $2,000 1974 mobile home on my parents farm.

Just hold your family close and know they are the true wealth on your life. If you ever need or want to talk, email me at familychiefs@embarqmail.com, my name is Dave.

Maybe you and all the other little Ron Paul moonbats should make your own little community and tell us how well it works out for you.

Until then.....

didn't we kinda learn that less gov. doesn't work back with the Articles of Confederation.

Considering the Articles of Confederation were never really implemented your comment makes absolutely no sense. Take your rhetoric somewhere else.

oooohhh! socialism! lets run for the hills! what is this? you can love capitalism but this is nowhere near socialism... which isn't really a scary thing, it is just different.

And, McCain needs professional anger management class!

hee hee hee

Do you mean HATCHETS?

sure do, and however you spell scalples.

i think we got the message. why were they so stuck on the plummer?

McCain has had 24 years to correct this, now he can? What happened?

This isn't sports, this is about the American way vs. a corporate dictatorship...

You need to take that college football mentality to somewhere more appropriate.

Make them pay their FAIR SHARE for a change!!

No fucking joke. I have never worked for a business owner (other than myself) that when seeing large profits, spread it down to their employees. Politicians know so little about what a common everyday worker deals with when dealing with their company's ownership. I would love higher taxes to be put on some of the owners I have worked for so they could see for a change what its like to go without a prescription to have gas money to go to work.

if you raise tax those companies are going to do drastic things to keep their profit margins...like laying off employees. i'd rather have them hire more workers.

references, please!

Please, let's dig into B.Ob's financial plan. Please...

OK, tell us then, if you have dug, WHAT HAVE YOU FOUND?!

Yes, please. Cite the documents you refer to, since you are so well studied on this subject it should be simple.

I too am curious about your sources. Lemme guess…

FOX NEWS?

“Fair and Balanced” What a joke! It should be called Comedy TV because I get a good laugh every time I watch!

Sources please…

Waiting…

-Jaye

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/2/14/obamas-trillion-dollar-sp...

there you go.

This mini article you scrounged up is pathetically skimpy on the details of his plan. His economic plan is actually very well thought out because it reaches into all the corners of the government, all the backs of closets and underneath desks and eliminates those "$100 hammers" that they purchase and replaces them with the $9 ones you and me buy. Do you understand? no one's economic package will make everyone happy all the time. Especially after we have to dig ourselves out of the debt we have put ourselves in.

From article:

"But I don't think that adds up. Take, for instance, eliminating those Bush tax cuts on top earners. That might gain $50 billion a year, assuming no negative economic effect. But Congressional Budget Office estimates already assume that the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of 2010. So Obama gains nothing beyond, perhaps, a one-year bump in 2010 if he repeals the tax cuts a year earlier."....

and then the argument and the overall article pretty much end.

I am all for stating alternate views on this plan and pulling it apart. That is how we get progress. But if you do this please use details and really present theories. I don't want to hear from some guy who wrote an essay on the plan, I want to hear what pieces you have an issue with and what you would do differently.

Furthermore, in addition to redvelvet1278s comment, the journalist that wrote the article that Mirab posted is just a journalist with a degree in journalism and soviet studies. Nowhere in his biography does it state that he has been educated in economics. his article sounds professional if you dont question a thing he is saying.

I think you have been ridden one race too much, because everything is good on the track for you doesn't mean all Americans enjoy your good times, people are hurting as a result of bad economics. Get real!

Yeah, in his dreams!

Kick that old man's butt O!!!!

He must have been dreaming cause he did

I admire your enthusiam but I do not think that what you want is even possible. My little brother could kick that old mans hip out....LOL, and he's supposed to know something about defense. He better be practicing his kung fu. But he's not. Because he full of shite.

i couldn't give a crap about either one of these jokers. We're screwed both ways to the weekend.

I agree with Mihrab...

I wanted Ron Paul : (

"-#current"

are you kidding?

http://current.com/topics/88834922_hack_the_debate

duh?

What does that even mean? Sorry I'm so ignorant.

go check it out....

Maybe that's why he can't answer any questions.

give him a break......he took debate lessons from sarah palin