News and Politics | October 24, 2008 | 47 comments

Kennedy secretly crafts health care plan

source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/24/kennedy-secretly-crafts-health-care-plan/

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From his sickbed, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy has secretly been orchestrating meetings with lobbyists and lawmakers from both parties to craft legislation that would greet the new president with a plan to provide affordable medical coverage to all Americans, a measure he has called "the cause of my life."
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47 comments // Kennedy secretly crafts health care plan

  • simonedward
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  

    • TexasPatriot67, Your claim of 60% of someones income is a gross exaggeration. Right now we are supplying the most expensive part of the population and have for many years with Medicare and no one has paid anything like that. We also supply low income children with Medicaid, they also use doctors a lot, still not bankrupting us. So we take the segment of the population that uses doctors the least and you think it will cost 60% of a persons income? Read up on it before saying something you know nothing about.

      http://www.pnhp.org/

    • 3 years ago
  • TexasPatriot67
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      TexasPatriot67  

    • Ted is no JFK he should be in prison for drowning that women back in the sixties he is a drunken lush and if you want to pay sixty percent of your income back to uncle sam for free health care move back to europe and no im a libertarian i hate W like everyone else here

    • 3 years ago
  • themanwithadog
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      themanwithadog  
    • TexasPatriot67:

      TexasPatrot67. I well remember Mary Kopechne and her dying at Chappaquiddick. Also the spineless Teddy boy running away hoping daddy would get him out of the shit

      This was at the back of my mind when I stated he was not one of my fav politicians, as it was almost 40 years ago I thought not to mention it but as you have brought the matter up I lean towards your assesment of the guy

      67? just a couple of years after you monicker number!

    • 3 years ago
  • themanwithadog
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      themanwithadog  

    • Never been one of my favourite politicians but pulling this one out of the bag has raised his status for me.

      Hope he is around in January to see the final day of GWs reign (of terror)

    • 3 years ago
  • blueman53
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      blueman53  

    • Ted is a good man.

      I don't get how something that cost money is a fundamental right? wouldn't it be a privilege, because you have to work to get it (unless other people paid for you)?

    • 3 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • currentlyreading
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  

    • Yes, so easy... You can't print money you don't have ( well, you can which we have been doing but it only leads to where we are now) and Obama along with McCain just voted for a Wall Street bailout that will cost US over a trillion dollars. So again, it's a nice gesture, but it has to pass Congress and that will not happen next year. So I'll believe it when I see it. And yes, I'm sure pharmaceutical companies will love this plan. Especially with almost half this country on prescription drugs, many I would surmise who don't really even need them. But sure yes, I believe they'll cut us a break with 'group rates' without increasing prices or finding a loophole...and I believe in the tooth fairy too.

    • 3 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Vierotchka
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • JanforGore:

      Vierotchka: Read and greenlighted.Thanks.

      Marilyn_Murray: Is reality too much for you to discuss here? I didn't know I was simply supposed to come here to fawn to get your story on TV. The REALISM of this issue which is now at a crisis stage is that Congress will not be all Democrats and I suspect many will oppose this, some who may even be Democrats. If Obama gets in, there will not suddenly be unicorns and flowers in the Congressional chambers.... sorry to inform you. That is simply the nature of politics. I also suspect corporations which are in business to make PROFIT will not suddenly grow a conscience and will ask for certain concessions in return. How much that may cost in the end is anyone's guess. You can't bring down the price of healthcare unless you go to the reason's source... and that accountability has not been part of either Obama or McCain's lackluster plans. And as for your comment about waiting before you complain about it... I wasn't complaining about THE PLAN...I was stating an opinion about the PARTIES INVOLVED. However, I suspect you will defend this to the hilt even if it is a crappy plan simply because a Democrat presented it. How that does anything to further intelligent, honest, fair debate is a mystery to me.

    • 3 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  

    • I Doubt that HMOs would be included in any Universal Health Plan. The drug companies would have to give us large group prices they give other countries that have Universal Health Care. Then we can just print money like we do for everything else to pay for it.

    • 3 years ago
  • Hawkmang
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  

    • Nice gesture, but how do you pay for it with an 11 trillion dollar deficit and HMOs and pharmaceutical companies not willing to give up their profits?

    • 3 years ago
  • MizPiz
  • Vierotchka
  • mobclasic1
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      mobclasic1  

    • As long as the system is fair for all then it is a GREAT idea. He is at a minimum; A person who has endorsed Obama, and a man McCain has known and worked with for years. It should have good results, Red or Blue.

    • 3 years ago
  • emarston
  • unimatrix0
  • nufsenuf
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  

    • I think I' ll write a letter of encouragement and thanks.
      I' m so hopeful that he can do this. He has been my favorite for years. I' m so very proud of him.

    • 3 years ago
  • nufsenuf
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      nufsenuf  

    • Alas, mako2424, that is the nature of being a hero - sometimes it is only in retrospect, that true greatness can be appreciated. At least this time, we have a head's up, and can aspire to his example while he is still among us!

    • 3 years ago
  • mako2424
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      mako2424  

    • Though beloved and respected, I fear we, as a nation, won't truly appreciate what he's done over the years until he's gone.

    • 3 years ago
  • csmonut
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      csmonut  

    • Maybe he see's change in the wind for the American people, for the better.
      Let's hope he's right.
      And yes, nufsenuf...this is one fine legacy to leave.

    • 3 years ago
  • nufsenuf
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      nufsenuf  

    • And a legacy that actually means something besides a "Library" dedicated to one's personal greatness! Teddy is a true American hero - one can only hope his greatness will shine on for generations to come, as an actual measure to better the live of millions!

    • 3 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
  • phoenixtoo
  • currentlyreading
  • justwannafindmytrue
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  

    • Teddy shows understanding and compassion rarely found in a person that has never wanted for material things. I have faith that he will come out with an outstanding program.

    • 3 years ago
  • ImpeachMe
  • borymp
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • ImpeachMe:

      It doesn't really need a constitutional amendment since it is already the supreme law of the land:

      The US Constitution says:

      Article VI

      All debts contracted and engagements entered into, before the adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

      This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

      The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

      Universal Declaration of Human Rights

      Adopted and proclaimed by General Assembly resolution 217 A (III) of 10 December 1948 (The USA is a signatory)

      Article 25.

      (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

      (2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

    • 3 years ago
  • kennymotown
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • kennymotown:

      They have a conscious what?

      con·scious

      adjective

      1.
      a. Having an awareness of one's environment and one's own existence, sensations, and thoughts.

      b. Mentally perceptive or alert; awake: The patient remained fully conscious after the local anesthetic was administered.

      2. Capable of thought, will, or perception: the development of conscious life on the planet.

      3. Subjectively known or felt: conscious remorse.

      4. Intentionally conceived or done; deliberate: a conscious insult; made a conscious effort to speak more clearly.

      5. Inwardly attentive or sensible; mindful: was increasingly conscious of being watched.

      6. Especially aware of or preoccupied with. Often used in combination: a cost-conscious approach to further development; a health-conscious diet.

      con·science

      noun

      1.
      a. The awareness of a moral or ethical aspect to one's conduct together with the urge to prefer right over wrong: Let your conscience be your guide.

      b. A source of moral or ethical judgment or pronouncement: a document that serves as the nation's conscience.

      c. Conformity to one's own sense of right conduct: a person of unflagging conscience.

      2. The part of the superego in psychoanalysis that judges the ethical nature of one's actions and thoughts and then transmits such determinations to the ego for consideration.

      3. (Obsolete) Consciousness.

      * * * *

      It seems to be a very common and widespread tendency to use conscious instead of conscience when referring to having a good or a bad conscience. I see it all the time. :)

    • 3 years ago
  • harry3864
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      harry3864  

    • I'm sure the Republicans can figure out a way to demonize Kennedy and torch Obama for supporting such a socialist idea.
      Maybe Brad Blakeman who seems to be good at attacking the sick or even better the worked up rapist Rush Limbaugh who will turn it into yet another welfare program for Blacks.

    • 3 years ago
  • borymp
  • borymp
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      borymp  

    • Teeeed! You're the man. When I was growing up ..all I heard was negative things about him. From republicans of course.

    • 3 years ago
  • woofman
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  

    • It certainly speaks well for his commitment to getting a health care plan together and pushed through congress to continue to work on it while he was recovering from such a serious illness.

      The next step is to find out the details and see if it would be practical and if all his hard work can pay off in getting a health care plan that would be worth it.

    • 3 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  

    • "I pledge to you that I will be there next January on the floor of the United States Senate," Mr. Kennedy told the cheering crowd in Denver. "This is the cause of my life, new hope that we will break the old gridlock and guarantee that every American - north, south, east, west, young, old - will have decent, quality health care as a fundamental right and not a privilege."

    • 3 years ago
  • current89
  • jeffreyak
  • Vierotchka
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