Deadly shootings rock Mumbai

don't ever ever ever insult anyone's religion, especially when you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about. i find comments like your indicative of why there is no progress to be made in this "war on terror"

how much do you really even know about islam? only what you see on the news?

You are so idiotic! Do some research on Islam and its people. People like you are HURTING America! There is a HUGE difference between Muslims and Muslim Extremists...learn the difference. Extremists are only 1% of the Islamic population but they are having such a profound impact that it makes it seem that all Muslims are terroristic. This is not true in the slightest! Most Muslims do not even consider these terrorists as Muslims because they reflect nothing of the religion.

These terrorists are a reflection of the faith just as much as an animal rights activist, who wears leather boots, is a reflection of animal rights groups.

HAHAHA, glad to have offended your delicate sensibilities. I watch you left wing fruitcakes insult Christianity day in and day out on this website, and then you have the audacity to defend islam... Those "peaceful" muslims who stand by and allow the existence of these radical sects and mosques to not only exist but grow are not quite as guilty as the actual terrorists but they share blame. Islam/ muslims will get my sympathy when they start policing themselves and purging the radicals from their midst, in the meantime, they can go f themselves with a pig d**k.

I agree with you to a point. If the terrorists didn't get that much press, then maybe they wouldn't be doing public executions and distributing the video through the Internet. But on the other hand, we also have to blame the system that gives these people the drive to recruit in massive numbers. For example, in Syria, the men who are attracted to radicalism tend to be the ones who fell through the system's cracks: uneducated, lacking trade skills, poor, and HOPELESS. Instead of letting al-Qaeda (or other terrorist groups) give these men hope, their respective governments need to recognize the need to grab a hold of these men through institutional education programs to instill hope that they, too, can succeed in making their futures in just measures.

i can't help but be surprised at your unhappiness over the coverage. these are humans being targeted by terrorists. If it was in America, how much do you think it would be blown up? the world was in outrage at 9-11, the world has the right to be outraged when this happens elsewhere too.

in a way that is true, and in a way it is untrue. True, terrorists breed terrorists. but western behavior hasn't exactly made itself less of a target. i'm not saying the west is to blame for the creation of terrorists, but what, other than accusing these people is the west doing to help their situation?

Yes, the UK and US have committed atrocities in the past and may still be committing human rights violations as I type now. But violence is never the answer to violence. In the current podcast about the Mumbai train attack in 2006, a man commented that if the terrorists have an issue with the government, then they should take it up with the government - killing innocent people is not the answer. It's been two years since he's said that and nothing has changed. We're back to where we were in 2006.

the only thing i hate about irrationally generalized statements like these are the people that actually believe them.

Correction. WE did not make the terrorists.
An Islamic call to Jihad made terrorists, and that's only the radical sects and also people that were trained all their lives to hate the west as a means of dissipating the discontent and keeping the population under control.

Correction. WE DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS. Thus WE did not make the terrorists. We are not the center of the universe, and we do not effect or do all things.

An Islamic call to Jihad made terrorists, and that's only the radical sects and also people that were trained all their lives to hate the west as a means of dissipating the discontent and keeping the population under control.

For you, articspirit....If you look at my post, I was talking about a pattern. far be it from me to think any cable news channel (or any other news outlet) is perfect. When I hear about a news story, I try to gather information from as many sources as possible. With all of the ways we have to get info this days, I would be stupid to get all of my news from one source (i.e. CNN) I have seen a pattern from Fox news that is not matched by any other news source that claims to be "fair and balanced" I'm just calling it how I see it. If you cannot see how biased and closed minded Rupert Murdoch's underlings are, then you must be blind.

I am very liberal and I actually tuned in BBC News when I found out. I was looking at other channels and noticed the same thing as you- CNN and Fox were the only ones reporting the attakcs. I was really surprised that MSNBC didn't mention it till later.

If you want the latest updates, I would watch BBC because they get their info first and the American news stations report the same thing 15+ minutes later.

blah, blah, blah...

Yawn

hey could you expand on that a little...
Who's future was stolen? etc.?

i dont think americans are done with being afraid

The American peoples futures. He talking about the bailout.

Hey peacenik (kennymotown), key phrase you mentioned was AFTER THE INVASIONS OF AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ, those were prompted by an offensive attack on American soil on 9-11. Your piece of shit "religion of peace loving radical muslims" buddies started this whole f'ing mess. What do you suggest we do? Turn the other cheek and allow them to just keep attacking us in our homeland? Hell no, they asked for it and we took the fight to them. Have we fought the "perfect war"? No, but there has never been a "perfect war" and there never will be, there is no script or perfect scenario when your hand is forced to go on the offensive against the enemy. When the people of the midle east have had enough of other countries policing them they will begin to do so themselves, until that day comes they need a baby sitter and as long as there's a baby sitter the sitter gets to make the rules. You want America and it's allies out of the middle east, then prevent your f'ing terrorists from taking their cause overseas and attacking other countries.

Hey Liberal_Extinction i swear you sound like a man in history. what was his name....oh thats right Hitler. You sound like a racist. All i hear from you is They and Them. Not all muslims are radicals, just like not all black ppl are crack heads and not all white men are child pedophiles. All i hear from you is war war war and kill kill kill. whats wrong with you. aww mommy and daddy didnt hold you enough. and what does this have to do with america. if there werent any americans or muslims caught up in this horrific incident, then no one would be talking about it.

Good post.

ty keith :)

LOL... that cracked me up.

dabne,

If it is just for a day, can you please show some genuine concern and empathy for the people that are dead and injured in this hyannis crime and leave Barack Obama out of it. How dare you suggest that Obama would condone this, even if you were joking.

There is nothing at all funny about this horrific loss of life.

I don't think I was making light of the deaths, in fact my whole point here, if you could not grasp it the first time, was this..

"Can we be any less robotic about these events that increasingly seem to be met with a standard script?"

Personally I would like to see more empathy expressed, by Bush and Obama,- It's all scripted. Show me some genuine emotion. Bush's only moment came with the megaphone, standing on rumble. We need more of that and less of "We condemn these attacks" press releases.

dabne,

I see your point, but these people who did this do not give a damn about Obama showing empathy. Colin Powell and Joe Biden bothe claim that they are going to test him the same way on January 21st and 22nd, on inauguration day. Barack cannot show any signs of weakness right now. The entire world is watching to see how he responds, and he knows it.

Google:Generated Crisis/Colin Powell,Joe Biden/ January 21st & 22nd, 2009

you need to get out more.

you clearly have never met a muslim before. EVER.

no different from jesus freaks who also seem to cause more harm than good.

every religion has its fanatics. you sound like a nazi. stop generalizing one for others. if you think all muslims are the same, then you might as well say that all black ppl smoke crack, all latinos are drunks, and all white men are pediphiles.

read a book, and leave hitlers ideas with him in his grave

ok pal, get your christmas ham out of your ass and take a look at the rest of the world... your comments themselves are extreme... why do you feel you can comment like that, its so stupid and classless... and not to mention hippocritical... get out of your ranch and see the world man, not everyone is from america, or christian

That was a great response. I think that you are absolutely right. Combine poverty, dispair, violence and ignorance and you have a cocktail for disaster. I would be curious to know what the economic and educational background is of these people.

Typical liberal response, any problem can be fixed by throwing handouts and freebies at the expense of the productive members of society.

Just because someone is not receiving enough food or money does not give them an excuse to go around randomly killing people, logic like yours tells them otherwise.

Not during a Jihad.

Agreed. I can't imagine what that country is going through right now. It's very sad.

who?

what?

huh?

what religion are you talking about, foo? no religion promotes this sort of violence, and even if that remark was sarcastic it is unwarranted. this is outrageous

damn near stupid.

What about all of the intolerance we show to peaceful Muslims in this country? The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful. We must not judge a religion by what we see from it's extremes. Many of the people killed in these attacks were in fact Muslim. There were muslim American citizens killed on 9/11. There are Christian extremists as well. (I.E. John Hagee-McCain supporter) who use a rhetoric of intolerance. We are not fighting Islam. We are fighting extremisim on all fronts, whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, or any other irrational fundamentalism.

I live in this country every day, I see none of this intolerance you reference. Not once did I judge the whole of Islam. Reread it and understand...I pointed out the extremes every time. Like I said earlier, I DON'T CARE IF ONE WORSHIPS ALLAH, BUT IF HE HARMS MY BROTHER & SISTER AMERICANS IN DOING SO, THAT IS WRONG. (Ex. I kill in the name of Allah.)
And as for the Christian extremists...who have they suicide bombed recently? You're gonna have to explain to me how you can parallel Muslim killers with Christians speaking their minds. That's WAY far-fetched and asinine. Christians & Jews don't commit crimes against humanity on a daily basis.
You also said Muslims killed some of their own in attacks? I don't doubt that a bit. They have no respect for human life. Boy, that says a lot for them. Maybe they are using a religion to hide under..?

If the "peaceful" factions don't vehemently turn on the militant ones that murder completely innocent random people because of where they are from, then this is going to get ugly.

The entire f*cking world is retarded. Nationalism, religion, propaganda, stupidity, greed, selfishness...the way the "human condition" is manipulated at the moment seems to go against whatever "God" or whatever designed the system of life itself intended.

I don't know about you, but if I were him/her/it, I would be getting really annoyed.

God you have to be kidding me. No intolerance? That's why my dad was almost beaten to death while being called a terrorist for walking down the street. People like you are ridiculous. You know they haven't had anyone take responsibility for these attacks, you are just making assumptions. If you knew anything about this topic you would know India has been being attacked a lot in the past months, from more than islamic groups.

There are 30 insurgent groups trying to get rid of the indian government...

Islam is the second largest religion in the world... you are dumb to think that it's a religion of hate.

Oh and another thing, look at the oklahoma city bombings if you want a christian attack... look at the whole state of Israel if you want a jewish one. And yeah muslims died on september eleventh. They work and live in America too. People like you are impossible.

Woah everyone!
Did you read what he wrote or what you wanted to read? Here is exactly what is said:

"Now, for my OPINION: Americans should come together to fight this diseased fanatacism. Islam fanatics are a cancer upon this earth, never allowing for inter-faith tolerance. I don't care if one worships Allah. But if they kill my family in the process, that is wrong & should never be withstood by anyone."

Sontag is talking about Islamic Terrorists basically. He goes on in the same breath to say that worshiping Allah is fine, but killing others in the process should not be withstood by anyone. Islamic and non-Islamic people around the world should have the same opinion there if it is a religion of PEACE. Really. How America (actually the world) "fights" really has a wide range of non-violent choices.

What I want to highlight in what he said was a phrase that is the cause for the violence: "... never allowing for inter-faith tolerance," Most of the violence is due to religious intolerance.

Are all of you defending Islamic terrorism? That is what was discussed here. And what YOU ALL DID, with the exception of Damnneargenious. Read carefully, this by no means talks about the majority of the western Islamic worshipers that we have in America.

Please think before you foam at the mouth when someone has an idea that might not be 100% "politically correct".

sontag, stop being a right-wing tool...

"Americans coming together to fight this diseased fanaticism"?
Isn't this partly the attitude that got us into this mess in the first place? What about the diseased Christian fanaticism which is just as xenophobic and violent used as a 'justification' for this War of Terror, which is in some quarters synonymous with a war on religion?

omg guys.. he said he wants to attack the ones about to kill his family.. the extremists.. who doesnt want them dead.. he is not talking about the majority.. .

For your information, Sontag, Christians have used their religion for centuries (if not millenia) to justify all sorts of wrondoing. They justified slavery by using passages out of the bible. Hitler used Christianity to justify his actions against those he slaughtered during WWII. Look at any white-supremacist or KKK website and they will outright tell you that they believe they are "Christian soldiers". Many beliefs of hate groups are based in christianity. I am by no means saying I support ANY extremist principles. You should just realize that there are fanatics on all sides.

you claim you dont care if ppl have a different faith than yours, but all i hear out of your comment is hate. and in my OPINION, the world is the way it is because of ppl like you.

this was devestating. and the best that you could do is make is worse. congratulations. you didnt even mention you heart going out to the families of the victims and what not.

no instead you generalized, criticized and caused more harm than good. which means your not different than them.

you sound like a nazi!!!!!

Hey coldworld, you're right there are some historical attrocities at the hands of Christianity BUT look at christianity of today. Look at the comparison of attrocities and terrorist attacks:

Christianity, isolated incidents that happen from time to time, very isolated incidents, hell I heard someone mention timothy mcveigh, hell that was how long ago? Comparing Christians to terrorists is just like saying that ALL enviromentalists are eco-terrorists, ALL people who love animals are terrorists like ALF, ALL people who are frustrated with the government are terrorists like the weather underground, etc. Muslims islam is responsible for attacks worldwide on a DAILY sometimes HOURLY basis, there is NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER between Christianity and Islam outside that they are based on religious beliefs. Radical Christians have DECREASED from past to present, muslim radicals and islamo-fascists have INCREASED from past to present, they are growing like a cancer and they need to be stopped. If the peaceful muslims are too chicken shit to purge them from their midst then someone else has to do it for them. The problem does not go away just because the weak bury their heads in the sand.

Don't be such an ass.

Our Christian extremist military TODAY, is responsible for over 1.2 million Iraqi deaths, and a large portion of that number were woman and children. You have devoured the Earth in the name of Jesus.

Sontag,

What planet do you and articspace live on ?

Death is death, no matter how you are killed. Suicide bombing is no different than military bombing.

Hey look, jeremiah wright stole keith ponders login! Let me guess keith, Americas chickens is comin' home to roost???

While CNN & Fox were reporting on the terrorist attack in India, MSMBC was talking about Obama's cabinet selections. Yeah. I laughed and changed the channel.

People are thinking about how to buy groceries, medicine and maybe get a Christmas gift for their child, if they are lucky. Or this week, are they young enough to realize this is a chicken, not a turkey?

Times are hard. And it's prime for terrorists to take advantage. Fox pointed it out. I am glad they did. The other news stations should have with the threat level NY has been over with the bold terrorist threat to it's subway system. Fox reported on that, did other channels?

Had CNN did this, you would not have said anything. Because it's Fox news, you have a Pavlovian response to bite at the TV. Sad. Even liberals should be open minded at times, and know what is helpful. Being an ostrich isn't the best idea right now.

Reply to ColdWorld:

While CNN & Fox were reporting on the terrorist attack in India, MSMBC was talking about Obama's cabinet selections. Yeah. I laughed and changed the channel.

People are thinking about how to buy groceries, medicine and maybe get a Christmas gift for their child, if they are lucky. Or this week, are they young enough to realize this is a chicken, not a turkey?

Times are hard. And it's prime for terrorists to take advantage. Fox pointed it out. I am glad they did. The other news stations should have with the threat level NY has been over with the bold terrorist threat to it's subway system. Fox reported on that, did other channels?

Had CNN did this, you would not have said anything. Because it's Fox news, you have a Pavlovian response to bite at the TV. Sad. Even liberals should be open minded at times, and know what is helpful. Being an ostrich isn't the best idea right now.

true that, man.