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Report: Gonzales and Rice lied to congress about Iraq intel

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WASHINGTON – Former White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales misled Congress when he claimed the CIA in 2002 approved information that ended up in the 2003 State of the Union speech about Iraq's alleged effort to buy uranium for its nuclear weapons program, a House Democrat said Thursday.

In a memo to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which he chairs, Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., also expressed skepticism about assertions by then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice that she was unaware of the CIA's doubts about the claim before President George W. Bush's speech.
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34 comments // Report: Gonzales and Rice lied to congress about Iraq intel

  • nessie00
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      nessie00  

    • In 2002 Rice was not Secretary of state, Colin Powell was, so please get your facts straight. She has served this country in the most honorable way. She happens to be an expert on Russia which is a major problem for the new President.He would be smart to keep Rice on as an advisory on Russian tactics.

    • 3 years ago
  • derk
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      derk  

    • I want to know the truth. Period. And they should be punished severely if they knowingly lied. It is incredibly important that we make an example of them and deter this from ever happening again.

    • 3 years ago
  • damnneargenius
  • lenhart
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      lenhart  
    • damnneargenius:

      "Scapegoatery"!!!!

      When ordinary folk are charged with murder when they've committed one, it's called JUSTICE...

      But dare to raise the same charge against a REPUBLICAN politician and it's called SCAPEGOATERY!

      If bringing these cold-blooded murderers and liars to justice, then BRING IT ON!

      UP WITH 'SCAPEGOATERY'!

    • 3 years ago
  • ny_nj_soulchild
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      ny_nj_soulchild  

    • I'M NOT SURPRISED BY THIS AT ALL. AND EVEN THE MEDIA KNEW ABOUT THIS AND SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. BUT AGAIN...NOBODY WANTED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

      THE MEDIA THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT...WAS MUSICIANS!!! INCUBUS, GREEN DAY, THE GAME, LUDACRIS, BASICALLY EVERYONE...EVEN NEWS NETWORKS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

      COME ON PEOPLE...EVEN CURRENT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT...

    • 3 years ago
  • Tayllerand
  • lenhart
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      lenhart  

    • Why is this considered news!!!

      EVERY intelligent person knew they were lying AT THE TIME!

      By the reasoning Bugliosi applies to Bush, the fact that Gonzales and Rice LIED makes them --likewise --prosecutable for MURDER. By Bugliosi's reckoning, a capital crime.

      Even as they lied to Congress, I posted links to US CODES, TITLE 18, SECTION 2441 ---on the now defunct NPR "How's Bush Doing" Board.

      Google it! It's still on the books. It's still the law of the land.

      It makes George W. Bush as well as his enablers like Gonzales and Rice prosecutable for the CAPITAL CRIMES OF mass murder and war crimes.

    • 3 years ago
  • pokesmot
  • jadetigerpaw
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      jadetigerpaw  

    • HERE IS A LIST OF THE NEXT 40 OF COUNTS THAT WARRANT NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL PROSECUTION

      For in-depth explanation of bullet points go to:

      http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

      41. FDA restricting the mission
      42. EPA restricting the mission
      43. Porter Goss trashing the CIA
      44. Militarization of intelligence
      45. Rampant cronyism
      47. Unilateral Executive
      48. Abuse of the National Guard
      49. Breaking the Army
      50. Increase in the balance of trade deficit
      51. Grassley Bankruptcy Bill (creditors favored over debtors)
      52. Cross border Mexican truck safety
      53. Rove’s security clearance (kept after his part in outing Valerie Plame)
      54. Anti-immigration raids (children and parents separated)
      55. Dubai Ports deal (a Middle East company in charge of US ports in the age of terrorism)
      56. Patriot Act and its Extension
      57. Privatization of Social Security (a bad idea endlessly recycled)
      58. War on Science
      59. David Safavian (Abramoff associate)
      60. Claude Allen (White House adviser caught shoplifting)
      61. Bush lying about firing Rumsfeld before the November 2006 election
      62. Armstrong Williams (paid propagandists)
      63. Labor Department (ground down by Mitch McConnell’s wife)
      64. Net neutrality/media ownership
      65. Israeli bombing of Lebanon (delay in putting a ceasefire in place)
      66. PDB on Bin Laden (ignoring the terrorist threat pre-9/11)
      67. Ground Zero declared non-toxic
      68. Sago mining disaster (non-enforcement of safety regs)
      69. Harriet Miers Supreme Court nomination (a supreme act of cronyism)
      70. Vetoing stem cell research
      71. Plan B contraception
      72. Clear Skies/ Healthy Forests Acts (weakening pollution controls and opening forests to logging)
      73. Ballistic missile shield (only works to antagonize the Russians)
      74. Leandro Aragoncillo (the spy in Cheney’s office)
      75. Overseas AIDS programs (reflecting the Administration’s benighted views on sex)
      76. Constitutional amendment against gay marriage
      77. Drilling in Bristol Bay, Alaska
      78. Canard of Clintons trashing the White House before leaving
      79. Jeff Gannon (a male prostitute in the White House press corps)
      80. Native American trust funds

    • 3 years ago
  • jadetigerpaw
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      jadetigerpaw  

    • As a country we are obligated to treat everyone fair under the law. We have to impeach every public official who participated in these violations of national and international rules of law.

      HERE IS A LIST OF THE FIRST 40 LIST OF COUNTS THAT WARRANT NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL PROSECUTION

      For in-depth explanation of bullet points go to:

      http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

      The List:
      1. Patient neglect at Walter Reed Army Hospital
      2. US Attorney firings
      3. Libby/Plame Affair (Outing a CIA agent)
      4. Iraq war
      5. Afghanistan (leaving before the job was done)
      6. Iran saber rattling
      7. North Korea (mishandling nuclear issue)
      8. The War on Terror (failure to capture Osama bin Laden, dubious allies)
      9. Civilian contractors in Iraq (poor service for big bucks)
      10. Military Commissions Act (torture, kangaroo courts, indefinite detention, and loss of habeas corpus)
      11. Hurricane Katrina and the drowning of New Orleans
      12. NSA warrantless wiretapping
      13. SWIFT (international money transfers)
      14. Black sites and rendition
      15. Department of Homeland Security (a massive boondoggle)
      16. K Street lobbyists (for government you can buy)
      17. Dusty Foggo (No. 3 at the CIA)
      18. Duke Cunningham (a corrupt politician)
      19. Tom Delay (another corrupt politician)
      20. Mark Foley and the House pages
      21. Cheney Energy Task Force (and hiding info about it)
      22. Tax cuts for the richest of the rich
      23. Global warming (denial and stalling)
      24. Terri Schiavo and the attempted trashing of family privacy rights
      25. Budget deficits and a greatly increased national debt
      26. Stacking of the Supreme Court (Roberts and Alito)
      27. Medicare( lack of long term solvency)
      28. Medicare Part D (Drug prescriptions)
      29. Healthcare general mess
      30. Doug Feith (stovepiping Iraq intel)
      31. 2000 election (stolen)
      32. 2004 election (rigging)
      33. 9/11 Commission limitation and manipulation of
      34. 9/11 Commission’s recommendations delayed implementation
      35. Marginalization of the UN
      36. Preventive war doctrine
      37. Loss of US prestige
      38. Inaction on Israeli-Palestinian peace process
      39. Lack of spending on basic research
      40. Alberto Gonzales

    • 3 years ago
  • DJMatt2
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      DJMatt2  
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    • WHAT???????

      I am shocked! Utterly SHOCKED!!!

      This is an OUTRAGE!!! Somebody call the Congress back! Let's get articles of impeachment out there!

      Oh... wait a minute... we gotta get those through Speaker Nancy Pelosi first... and she already has refused over twenty proposed articles of impeachment requested this past year. And even IF she allows a hearing, she will and has REFUSED to allow a vote, either in committee or to the full House.

      Well... let's call up the current Attorney General! They lied to Congress... isn't that called perjury? That's a crime! Get some charges filed! Get some arrests made!

      Oh wait... Mikey Mukasey is the AG and he's already doing everything possible to close the book on the sins of the Bush White House. He can't even go after a known Ponzi Schemer because he's tied to it.

      Screw it... let's just throw some more shoes!

      (NOTE: all sarcasm in the above message is intentional.)

    • 3 years ago
  • asherp
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      asherp  

    • Uh, so... Impeachment... right?

      Oh crap, I forgot-- the DEMOCRATS control the senate and house.

      They'll NEVER impeach!

    • 3 years ago
  • IMMININT
  • arcticspirit
  • bansheewail
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      bansheewail  
    • arcticspirit:

      Well, it looks like he PROBABLY broke the law and he should PROBABLY go to jail for it. Scratch that. He should PROBABLY face a firing squad for it. So, yes, the Laws of Probability are difinately in there somewhere.

    • 3 years ago
  • Tayllerand
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      Tayllerand  

    • Sorry Senators I cant remember, I cant recall those
      events. Like I said again Senators I dont know nothing about what happened those days.
      I dont know,I cant remember and I cant recall .
      Sorry Senators.
      I cant remember ,I can recall, I dont know.

    • 3 years ago
  • guidedtotarget
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      guidedtotarget  

    • This is bullshit. Everybody got the same data and, in the case of Congress, voted accordingly. The data was wrong, mistaken; that's not a lie, it's a mistake. Excuuuuuuuuuse you!

    • 3 years ago
  • jahbini
  • sunkisthappy
  • asherp
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      asherp  
    • guidedtotarget:

      I have talked with people who worked in the CIA, (Ray McGovern being one) and the intelligence was cherry picked.

      Information that would disprove the claims that they wanted were deleted. Context was removed.

      They even plagiarized a student essay from 12 years prior about how Iraq had WMDs (which of course, he did, becuase we were giving them to him). That information was treated as if it was current and relevant.

    • 3 years ago
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  
    • guidedtotarget:

      meanwhile back in reality...

      Jon Stewart couldn’t believe big media’s induced ambient level of aphaty around this flagrant abuse inflicted on the nation by this executive branch.

      Investigative journalist Ron Suskind dropped by “The Daily Show” to talk about the blockbuster revelation in his new book, The Way of the World, in which he was able to confirm through high-ranking CIA sources that the Bush administration ordered US intelligence agencies to fabricate a letter justifying the invasion of Iraq after the original case was revealed to be a fraud.

      White House ordered the CIA to forge and disseminate false intelligence documents linking al-Qaeda and Iraq.

      This is but another crime in a long list from this executive branch. Will this story break the camel’s back ? Will America regain its dignity and do the right thing ? Is America still alive as a democracy or has the Bush/Cheney administration kill it for good ? Stay tuned for modern history is being written at this very moment…

      http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/12/daily-show-ron-suskind-talks-liars-impe...

    • 3 years ago
  • jh64487
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      jh64487  

    • why does our president even have the power to grant pardons? that's a throwback to the monarchy system

      if they all get off the hook because of that...

    • 3 years ago
  • sunkisthappy
  • DJMatt2
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      DJMatt2  
    • jh64487:

      Actually in the right hands, granting pardons can be a good thing. One of the first things that Thomas Jefferson did when he became president was to pardon everyone prosecuted under the Alien and Sedition Acts, which was a major slam against his predecessor and the fear-mongering of the time.

      Unfortunately the operative words here are "in the right hands", because we've seen how this power can also be abused.

    • 3 years ago
  • bansheewail
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      bansheewail  
    • jh64487:

      Yet, Thomas Jefferson DID NOT grant "freedom" to all of his slaves upon his death, which was the custom for the day. He didn't even free the slaves that were also his children. So, not the best example of "pardon power", agreed?

    • 3 years ago
  • DJMatt2
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      DJMatt2  
    • jh64487:

      No, it's still a valid example. You are confusing a matter of PUBLIC governance (government) with a matter of PRIVATE governance (running a household, which is what slavery was considered to be). The two are not interchangeable. In fact if I remember correctly, he was toying with the idea of liberating the slaves under his control long before he ran for president, but he never followed through with it. He did liberate five of his most trusted slaves, but after his death the rest were sold to others to pay off his debts.

    • 3 years ago
  • Eat_Disco
  • realitybytes
  • DreSandoval
  • WhiteNoise
  • MaRibElfalcon76
  • larock
  • bansheewail
  • WhiteNoise
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      WhiteNoise  
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    • bansheewail:

      She will take care of it on her own ;)

      Fire and brimstone is a term used, sometimes pejoratively, to describe a motif in Christian preaching which uses vivid descriptions of judgment, and the damnation to Hell of sinners forever to encourage repentance out of fear of divine wrath and punishment.

    • 3 years ago
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