News and Politics | December 28, 2008 | 45 comments

Young people ignore alcohol campaigns

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Researchers are urging the government to stop "demonising" young people in health campaigns warning of the dangers of alcohol.

The regular advertisements, splashed across billboards, magazines, and television breaks, have been overwhelmingly ignored by under-25s, who see binge drinking as acceptable and the recommended three units of alcohol a day unrealistic. The study concluded that the adverts reflected a negative stance at odds with their own experiences of drinking, which were more 'fun and social'.

Should the government take a different approach to get the message across, and if so, how? In years to come, will current alcohol warnings be compiled in comedy DVDs of quaint, naive government campaigns such as Charlie Says?
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  • DistantPlanet
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      DistantPlanet  
    • I think campaigns like this are never as effective as the campaigners would like, but are also always more effective than the intended audience will admit. There's something to be said for repetition. There's something to be said for repetition.

    • 3 years ago
  • toreyray
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      toreyray  
    • Image
    • Heineken: "Blowjob"

      A man is going home just to find his girlfriend with another man. He realized that a Heineken beer is better than that.

    • 3 years ago
  • stephenthomson
  • mattbrawn
  • clayjj05
  • Disable
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      Disable  
    • The government shouldn't be putting any tax dollars toward this. The government shouldn't take my money only to spend it on propaganda telling me what I should or shouldn't do.

    • 3 years ago
  • kacie_intercept
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      kacie_intercept  
    • I think this is going to be a problem as long as there is alcohol in the world. I don't criticize the government at all. As an 18 year old I think we tend to ignore these campaigns because the government is too far away from us. A teen doesn't watch an ad made by the government and relate to it or take it very deep to heart. The campaigns need to be closer to home for us to have a bigger impact I'd say.
      When you go to school with someone for your middle and high school years and something happens to them related to drinking, that's when you realize the terrible side of going out and getting drunk on the weekends. It's bad, but in order to learn, something has to happen to those you know and those who are close to you.

    • 3 years ago
  • vladrath
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      vladrath  
    • I think personally that it is a complete waste of time to do any sort of ad aimed at kids. They could however, aim ads at parents. Parents have a lot more sway over their kids than an ad ever could. Thats how it should be anyway, there are a lot of bad parents out there. But there are also many good ones who may not realize the importance of talking to their kids about this issue at an early age.

      If people really wanted to solve underaged drinking problems they should punish the kids parents along with the kid. Than maybe things would change.

      I also think the age should be dropped to 18. I don't see how its really fair to punish someone who is 20 for drinking. If they are not mature enough then they won't be mature enough when they are 21.

      Also I belive that the anti drug/drinking ads are just a way for certain groups to push what they belive is to be right onto other people. Instead of giving them good information so the young people can make their own informed decisions.

    • 3 years ago
  • cztheday
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      cztheday  
    • Had a response or two and while I am sorry to continue ad nauseum, I would simply add that the scope of suffering alcohol causes around the world in a SINGLE DAY is unimaginable to most people. Just the number of people who die in alcohol-related traffic accidents around the world in one day is staggering -- and so many of the victims were in the vehicle struck by the drunk driver! Add to that all of the babies born with fetal alcohol syndrome. Then add the literally MILLIONS of children abused every day by a drunken father, step-father, Mom's new boyfriend or even Mom herself. Sorry -- but personally I find the ads almost ridiculously TAME compared to reality. No, you aren't struck dead the first time you drink (well, actually, there are a FEW unlucky souls who die in car crashes during their first drunk, but I agree the number is tiny). But if one really and truly thinks about all of the stupid and awful decisions and errors of judgment that are made just in one person's life as a result of intoxication, one can be overwhelmed with sadness at what that one person's life might have been. So as clumsy and heavy-handed as the governmen't ads might be, I applaud them for trying. I just wish more adults would be honest with kids about the REAL horror stories we all know to be true about alcohol and alcohol abuse instead of treating intoxication like some kind of rite of passage or "acceptable way to blow off steam.". Out of the 20 members of my high school graduating class that have died in the years since, more than half of the deaths were related in some way to alcohol. Yet when I tell people that, nobody bats an eyelash! They have no doubt I am telling the truth, but for some reason because we are talking about alcohol those numbers are either acceptable or at least expected. But if I substituted the word "heroin" or "AIDS" for "alcohol" people would be horrified. What is this bizarre exception that has been created for the the world's deadliest and most dangerous drug? I just don't understand it -- and I REFUSE to accept it!

      cztheday

    • 3 years ago
  • hoboninja54
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      hoboninja54  
    • Over-saturating everything with anti-drug and anti-alcohol campaigns leads kids to think everyone really is doing it, why else would these organizations be working so hard to stop it. It's working in the opposite direction. It appears to be a wide spread thing not to mention an easily available thing, so why not try it once. When the kids do try it and realize god didn't strike them down, their parents didn't find out, and they had a damn good time suddenly you realize the ads are bullshit. There has to be a better way.

    • 3 years ago
  • cztheday
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      cztheday  
    • Attend a few AA meetings. Most of the people there attend 5-7 times per week, week after week, year after year. They are THAT afraid of drinking even a single drink again and where that drink might lead them. Then consider that even the tiniest communities have at least one AA group -- large cites have hundreds. All over the world. Listen to their stories of embarassment, illness, horror. Do that math on that kind of past suffering and that kind of present and future desperation to not allow the suffering to begin again. After all of that we can start talking about all the completely innocent children and adults who have been injured, raped or killed due to alcohol. This is by FAR and away the most serious drug abuse problem on the planet. If you are a regular social drinker and none of these things have happened to you yet, congratulations -- but the odds WILL catch up to you sooner or later. It works like Vegas and booze is The House.

    • 3 years ago
  • bigred5
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      bigred5  
    • cztheday:

      Excellent post

      some can drink beer but not whiskey
      some can drink whiskey but not tequila
      some can drink tequila but not vodka

      It's all something of God's rotted

      I prefer tequila but know to settle with beer.

      AA has saved a lot of families/lives
      Both my parents were off the deep end alcoholics.

      Alchohol is like cigarettes, just not good.

    • 3 years ago
  • uponrooftops
  • diabolical44
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      diabolical44  
    • cztheday:

      people who have drinking problems have absolutely nobody to blame but themselves. Alcohol is an inanimate object, it has no control or power unless it has a person that will allow it to have control and power over them. I know tons of people who've had problems, including both of my parents, and they still too this day attend AA, and I thank god for AA. But ultimately the responsibility lies within the person. all that shit about it being a "disease" , is a load of horeshit. Cancer is a disease.

    • 3 years ago
  • diabolical44
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      diabolical44  
    • of course they ignore that bullshit. A) the ads are way off base. the people who come up with them are clearly way out of touch with the youth. and B) getting piss wasted is really really fun.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • Anyone who has come home and gotten sick will relate. Or ruined their favorite shirt, skirt, while out drinking etc. Or had sex with someone they didn't even like.. etc.

      It's talking about moderation.
      The IQ and previous experiences of the person watching this add alot to the factor of if THIS will work on an individual or not..

      I was like yeah.. not so smart to get trashed. (damn.)

    • 3 years ago
  • classic124
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      classic124  
    • Amusing ad.

      Lowering the legal age to drink could possibly be a way to curb binge drinking, because kids wouldn't have to do it behind closed doors. But that's been said a million times already.

    • 3 years ago
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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      SHAWN_RITTIMAN  
    • The lies the government spreads to create paranoia definately are unearthed upon first use. In my opinion alcohol is the gateway drug. Rarely do you here of anyone trying pot before drinking. Legalizing weed would free up so much money and jail space. I completely agree judyroo!

    • 3 years ago
  • classic124
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      classic124  
    • SHAWN_RITTIMAN:

      I completely agree! I've smoked pot once, and I had been downing drinks with my rugby team for 5 hours straight. I haven't done pot since. (mostly because I found it to be a dumb experience) Needless to say, I got out of my drinking and partying phase, and I rarely drink.

      I have a friend who started drinking at 15, which led to pot, which led to abuse of Aderol, which led to cocaine. She's kicked the cocaine and Aderol, but she smokes tons of cigarettes and gets drunk every night.

      Alcohol is worse for you than pot, anyway

    • 3 years ago
  • bigred5
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      bigred5  
    • samonster34 speaks the truth

      The problem starts with the lies

      When a young person realizes that a joint or beer did not do what the government said, they might wonder what else was lied about.

      Then starts the serious problems.

    • 3 years ago
  • darkhorsejim
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      darkhorsejim  
    • A child's life experiences & education begins at home by the parent(s). Blaming the media, movies, TV, video games, school systems or those questionable friends is passing the buck. You can't blame the world. If you're gonna have kids, it's your responsibility to raise them to be responsible adults by setting positive goals & realistic expectations. Set aside that invaluable quality time before misinformed, impressionable minds have already acquired unhealthy habits. Today's parenting basically sucks. Where else does the sense of entitlement come from by today’s youths?

    • 3 years ago
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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      SHAWN_RITTIMAN  
    • Pretty valid point. Although I believe in the fact that low driving age equals less transportation responsibilities for parents, not every child is ready at 16. I do think it would be cool if bars were somehow required to have an on duty free ride option for people to get them home safe, although professional cabbies may scoff at this.

    • 3 years ago
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  
    • Legal drinking age should be lowered. Legal driving age should be raised. Statistics are pretty clear that young drivers are involved in a much higher percentage of fatal and non fatal accidents.

    • 3 years ago
  • wintermadness90
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      wintermadness90  
    • I'm 18 and I drink, but I don't drink to get drunk, I hate being drunk, just a little buzz is fine. I drink probably every other weekend, and it's in the presence of my family. I don't have a problem with alcohol, I know when to stop, and I know when not to do it all. I think we should lower the drinking age to 18; if you're old enough to die in combat, you should be old enough to drink.

    • 3 years ago
  • 2muchinfo
  • BigME413
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      BigME413  
    • I'm from Wisconsin, where drinking is both a source of pride and a source of problems. We drink (and abuse) alcohol more than any other state (check out this article from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/31237904.html).

      While the drinking age is 21 in Wisconsin, we do have a law that says that people are allowed to consume alcohol at a bar or restaurant if they are accompanied by their parents. Not all establishments abide by this, but it is meant to encourage the kind of "parental oversight" that people have been talking about here. Has it worked? Not particularly.

      It seems to me though that the drinking age is of secondary importance to educating young people about the responsible use of alcohol, and the dangers of over-consumption.

    • 3 years ago
  • tbowman131
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      tbowman131  
    • why do these ads even exist? it seems like pushing ones' morality on others...

      it's not like we put other laws on billboards and in tv advertisements, only drinking and drugs. let families make their own decisions on how they run their households and educate their children.

    • 3 years ago
  • Ares
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      Ares  
    • Look, I think time has proven that moving the drinking age to 21 has not solved anything. Sure, there are fewer drunk driving deaths, but the deaths from binge drinking have skyrocketed.

      I had my first beer when I was in 6th grade, at dinner, with my father. The responsibility rests on the parents to teach their kids how to learn their limits, make smart decisions, and not drink to excess every time they drink.

      I don't see how anyone can argue against moving the drinking age back to 18. If you are mentally mature enough to serve in the military, you are old enough to drink. Period. Either smoking, voting, serving, and drinking all need to be at 18, or all at 21, having them mixed doesn't make any sense.

    • 3 years ago
  • CHARMOSH
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      CHARMOSH  
    • I think exposing children to alcohol and letting them know about it at a young age does help like judyroo was saying, it's just like the preachers kids are stereotypically sexually wild, the same rule applies.

    • 3 years ago
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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      SHAWN_RITTIMAN  
    • That commercial was off the hook! As always kennymotown made a valid point, with the fact that 40 years ago doctors were less informed about alcohol. My mother was told by her doc that if a glass or two of wine helped calm her during pregnancy it was ok. I don't blame her for the alcohol related issues I have incurred during my 40 years, but I have struggled most of my life. If asked I would tell someone that between two, marijuana was a much safer choice than drinking, although it is still illegal unfortunately. I wasn't taught to be pro drug choice, but after seeing the affects of alcohol from long term users, including death, it is as safe as cigarettes.

    • 3 years ago
  • judyroo
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      judyroo  
    • Personally, I think the solution has to come from what kids are really most influenced by; the behavior of their parents. I really do believe that if children are introduced to alcohol at a younger age, and are allowed to drink it (not spirits) with dinner once or twice a week from the age of say 14 or 15 then it would be seen as a far less "cool" thing to do amongst teenagers. It would no longer be rebellious to get drink behind one's parents' backs. It would no longer be a new thing to try out with one's friends. Alcohol's image would change. People would appreciate it for the fact that it can make one feel merry at times, but feel no need to drink excessively and get wasted. Of course, some people do feel the need to get off their face and lose touch with reality, but that's all down the pressures of our modern society, and is a completely separate discussion...

    • 3 years ago
  • mirimysweet
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      mirimysweet  
    • I think more education and awareness of the potential harm caused by alcohol abuse can't hurt, but the real emphasis should not be on criminalising underage drinking to the extent that they do here in the US. If kids learn about moderation and drinking to enjoy the flavor of what they are drinking, perhaps the results will be more effective than merely saying "don' do that! Or else!"
      Thoughts?

    • 3 years ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
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      cantucwearebrothers  
    • mirimysweet:

      There are many aspects to this issue. It's not simply a governmental problem. It's a societal problem.

      Yes, young people should be exposed to the real effects of alcohol abuse. Honest open conversations always work best.

      I think it also has a lot to do with personality. Whether or not you're drawn to this type of behavior.

    • 3 years ago
  • judyroo
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      judyroo  
    • Yes! Well, at least in England. Most European countries have a huge underage drinking problem. I'm afraid you've been misinformed. There is no country without a drinking age. I am not sure specifically about different countries, but I know that in England the law is 18 and in many European countries it is 16 or 14. There is far less of a problem in the countries where the age is 14.
      European teens also glorify alcohol to a very extreme extent. I do not believe that lowering the age to 18 in America will help, it will simply make underage drinking start three years earlier.

    • 3 years ago
  • samonster34
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      samonster34  
    • They could show people drinking and having a good time and make one person who over does it look like a fool. You can drink underage and be responsible and have fun. Lord knows I never get wasted like that. I don't know any of my friends to do that either.

      Tell the truth mr government, we might listen.

    • 3 years ago
  • middle_east
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      middle_east  
    • Is there an underage drinking problem in Europe?

      I've been told that there either no age for drinking in Europe, or that it starts at 16. If that's the case, is teen drinking a problem? It seems that alcohol is really downplayed in Europe and people there don't see it as "cool" or a big deal - it's simply a part of the culture. Yet in America it is glorified by teens.

      Should the drinking age be lowered to 18 so alcohol is seen as less of a taboo? Is that even possible in the near future?

    • 3 years ago
  • Hendrix_Is_God
  • dirtyemowords
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      dirtyemowords  
    • I dont think there is a way for the government to make these ads appeal to the youth, if it's a government backed health warning, people are going to ignore it and ridicule it, that's just the way we deal with things.

    • 3 years ago
  • uponrooftops
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      uponrooftops  
    • Although I don't agree with other countries which allow drinking at younger ages, I also don't totally agree with alcohol campaigns either. I feel as though parents who are honest with their kids and actually talk with them about whether or not they want to drink makes young people more comfortable with the subject.
      Personally, I abstain completely from the use of alcohol because I see the enormous dangers of its effects on everyone my age and older. This probably would not have happened if my parents had not once been more open with me about substance use.
      I feel as though parental control is the biggest influence on children, but they often leave the biggest talks that they should be having with their kids to the schools and the government.

    • 3 years ago
  • judyroo
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      judyroo  
    • uponrooftops:

      Just in reply to your first sentence, I see why you might not agree with drinking at younger ages being legal, but I, although I am 16 and have decided to no longer drink, believe that there is a lot to be said for the countries which do allow younger children to drink. I say this with Mediterranean countries in mind. Take Italy or France for example, I believe that from the age of 14 children there are allowed to drink wine with their family. The whole culture surrounding alcohol there is different. Children have a healthy glass of wine now and then with their parents at dinner, and so drinking a small amount of alcohol is normalized. This stops kids wanting something that they can't have and know nothing about (like here in England).

    • 3 years ago
  • uponrooftops
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      uponrooftops  
    • uponrooftops:

      true, i understand that in a way, because i know that when i was a very young child i didn't understand why i couldn't have what my father was drinking... then he let me have a taste of his beer and i understood why i wouldn't want to drink it. haha. beer is such an unpleasant taste for a child.

    • 3 years ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
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      cantucwearebrothers  
    • I think the whole outlook on alcohol needs to be revamped. It's not working spectacularly well. Kids automatically want things that they're told they can't have. Simple math.

    • 3 years ago
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  
    • Young people old people, it does not matter to the ignorance of being educated about the harm alcohol does to your body when used in excess. I think young people have a better chance to get it right with all the information available these days as compared to 40 years ago. Hell pregnant women didn't know about the bad things that could happen from drinking alcohol and smoking then.

    • 3 years ago
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