News and Politics | January 06, 2009 | 82 comments

Jewish children 'will be murdered'

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A HAMAS leader has warned that Islamists would kill Jewish children anywhere in the world in revenge for Israel's devastating assault.

“They have legitimised the murder of their own children by killing the children of Palestine,” Mahmoud Zahar said in a televised broadcast recorded at a secret location.

“They have legitimised the killing of their people all over the world by killing our people.”

Mr Zahar made his first appearance since Israel launched its offensive.

Dressed in a dark suit, he declared: “Victory is coming, God willing.”

Israeli tanks firing cannons and machine guns and supported by helicopter gunships have moved into the city of Khan Yunis in the southern Gaza Strip, witnesses said.

The armoured force was met by return fire from Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups, they added.

Asked about Khan Yunis, an Israeli spokesman said: "We don't have any information on that.''

The reported incursion came a day after Israeli troops and Hamas militants fought pitched battles in Gaza City, and followed a tank and helicopter night offensive which saw three Israelis killed by "friendly'' fire.

The incursion into Khan Yunis's eastern district of Abassan al-Kabira would be the first time Israeli ground forces have entered the city since they poured into the territory on Saturday night.

Israel launched an air offensive on Gaza on December 27 aimed at halting militant rocket and mortar attacks across the border. On Saturday, it sent in thousands of soldiers to step up the campaign.

"We have prepared thousands of brave fighters who are waiting for you in each corner of the street and will welcome you with fire and iron,'' Abu Obeida, spokesman for Hamas armed wing the Ezzedine Al-Qassam Brigades, said in a broadcast.

"We tell you in all confidence that your defeat in the Gaza Strip is approaching with every hour,'' he said.

"As long as the aggression intensifies, your losses will increase and you will sink further into the Gaza quagmire.

At least 560 Palestinians, including 100 children, have been killed in Gaza since December 27 and another 2704 wounded.

Four Israeli soldiers have been killed since the start of the Israeli ground campaign on Saturday.
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  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • hey mutedmajority as a jew i assure u its not like we have been left alone and now we are targets ?remember in mumbai who the terrorists targeted. the threat of action against us is commonplace not a result of our actions. killing jews is as arab as baseball is american

    • 4 years ago
  • petarro
  • manfreddrake
  • AlbeeYap
  • alfitude
  • okinawanmajik
  • poosta7
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      poosta7  

    • The "problem" goes back to 1948 when the U.S. and Britain decided to "give" away parts of countries in the Mideast that weren't theirs to give. They should have given Israel a big chunk of land they did "own". England could have offered Wales or Scotland. Or better, the U.S. could have given them the states of Texas, Florida and Alaska. Then everyone would be happy and we would have had peace on earth, eh?

    • 4 years ago
  • tanyetta
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      tanyetta  
    • poosta7:

      You mean the UN decided to give the Jews their own land since the UN did do a vote and it did pass which singling out Britain and U.S. would be right but there were more countries involved not just two. So why does the U.S. back up Israel all the time that is where I am kind of confused on as well.

    • 4 years ago
  • vixen0078
  • pressrecord
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    • poosta7:

      @tanyetta, former US president Dwight D. Eisenhower explained it best in 1957: "political, economic, and military" control.

      although this speech was originally anti-communist, it gives a view of what the goals were.

    • 4 years ago
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • poosta7:

      I can't speak for the US govt. They don't consult me on policy.

      Our president at the time of the UN vote was pro-Jewish. Whether that was much of an influence on our vote would be pure speculation on my part. I do feel sure that had Russia or the US voted against it, those in their block would have followed suit and the legislation failed. Israel didn't declare their state until a year later.

      I think Israel has remained our ally in the years since because she's the only reliable ally we have in that part of the world; and for the humanitarian reason we don't believe a whole people should be wiped off the map just because of who they are. Maybe some guilt in there as well. We sure didn't allow many holocaust survivors in.

      But when I say ally, that's a misnomer. If we had a treaty and agreement in place with Israel then we would have been obliged to send troops the 3 times they were invaded.

      So rather than commit ourselves to that, we provide them the means to defend themselves. That doesn't say much for us. A half ass ally at best. But when you're that little of a country surrounded by hostile neighbors so much larger than you are it's nice to know you've got a super power that would maybe be on your side.

      Our luke warm support comes from our desire not to alienate the arabs too badly while forestalling a massacre. The arabs have the oil; Israel doesn't. If you're an Israeli that's one heck of a criteria for an ally isn't it? If there comes a time when you need someone to pull your chestnuts out of the fire maybe these guys will help if the politics aren't too bad?

      A historian I'm not. But that's part of the answer.

    • 4 years ago
  • okinawanmajik
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      okinawanmajik  

    • i say, allow the arab nations to arm, and train the pales so that when they have a real fair war, its really fair. us f-16 v. russian SU's and french mirages (even though those suck!) m-16 vs ak-47's

      israel keeps saying that iran is supporting hamas like thats so wrong...the US not only funds the IDF, but gives them ALL OF THEIR WEAPONS except the merkava tank. (which is a pimped tank!)

      hamas doesnt import arms aside from rpg's and guns.....they make their own rockets out of shit and clorox! i mean for a resistance group, they have a lot of hustle...they are not a terror group at all.....someone explain to me how they are..aside from saying that because the US (and they dont know shit, or israel says so...anyone? please?!

    • 4 years ago
  • crispyfritters
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      crispyfritters  
    • okinawanmajik:

      The US government supports Israel because it's one of the only significant states in the middle east that supports them.

      It's like the domino theory. They're afraid to lose countries like Israel, because without any opposition, they think that radicalism will spiral out of control.

    • 4 years ago
  • okinawanmajik
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      okinawanmajik  
    • okinawanmajik:

      crispy, you and i both know that that is BS. jordan? ...state dept woman made to marry hussain for peace? ( i think that actually), the us giving all those nations money to not attack israel....peaceful elections always being underminded by israel.....popular uprising against the us installed shah in iran and the taking of hostages, not because they hate the us, but because the us refused to give the shah back for trial,....yet hanging and trying saddam is ok? are you serious?

    • 4 years ago
  • crispyfritters
  • tanyetta
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      tanyetta  

    • I am mad confused at these comments. So someone tell me is it Hamas as a terrorist organization that you dislike or the Palestinian people you dislike? I can see the dislike in a terrorist organization, but hell, I can't see the reason to dislike all Palestinians or even form up any displeasure about innocent victims, and not only that I can't see why anyone would even dislike regular Isrealis. Like for real stop blurring the lines and get to the damn point. If you hate Hamas say that you hate Hamas for its violence, and if you do hate Hamas for its crude behavior you would have to think the same about all violence in retrospect to the Israel-Palestine Conflict on both sides not just one. I am having trouble with the whole idea for War to ensue peace, when did that ever work? We can all agree that we are very much ignorant on this complex and sometimes unsettling debate on who is right and wrong. So why argue useless points for useless gain. We need to actually look at what both sides have done to be peaceful, and in this conflict's long history I really can't see any peace agreement sticking. So who is to blame for that?

    • 4 years ago
  • dabne
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      dabne  

    • What other Military or political leaders in the world make statements like this?

      These comments should be heard world-wide. It's incredible that so many on this website are defending this terrorist organization called Hamas.

    • 4 years ago
  • okinawanmajik
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      okinawanmajik  
    • dabne:

      what do you know, you are a pats fan?!!!! hahaha.....hamas is a liberation org. they wouldnt exist, like the pflp, plo, fatah, hiszollah...all of them if it wasnt for israel doing what they do! think about it bro!!!

    • 4 years ago
  • cabinettags
  • mutedmajority
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • mutedmajority:

      nothing new there. The Jews have enjoyed pogroms in a number of nations. Fortunately they have a country they can call their own and an army to defend it with. It's not much, but it's home. There's at least one place on this earth where Jew isn't a curse word.

    • 4 years ago
  • 02
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      02  

    • You just need a Caesar. He'd draw the borders, maybe allow Jerusalem to be called an internationally free religious city, that pays all interested real estate holders, etc, done.

      You can elect me Caesar. You better hurry up, time is a-wasting.

    • 4 years ago
  • UWAZell
  • jomahu
  • okinawanmajik
  • MoonLoon
  • cabinettags
  • okinawanmajik
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      okinawanmajik  

    • if israel was just wiped off the map none of this would even be an issue!

      of course i dont want the people dead...just the ones that support the BS going on. so the current censors who love my posts will not be inclined to email me saying ....hey bro watch what you say...and all that BS because my shit is not only funny but true! and some tight ass complains!

    • 4 years ago
  • unimatrix0
  • SarahAna
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      SarahAna  
    • okinawanmajik:

      Well I wouldn't wipe Israel off the map now.. Maybe just go back and time and keep God from starting life on Earth in Israel with God's Chosen People, the Jews (as the Bible says). Then, Muhammed can be born in his own Holy Land and the Christians could start out in whereever the Jews left off and no one would be fighting over any piece of holy land.. hehe

    • 4 years ago
  • UWAZell
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      UWAZell  
    • okinawanmajik:

      Yes, under that logic I reckon we should just erase every line the British, etc.., drew in Persia and Africa. That way they can re draw the map after they have finished killing each other over imaginary lines.... which should only take about another 50-60 years.

    • 4 years ago
  • podman12
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      podman12  
    • okinawanmajik:

      If the Palestinians were just wiped off the map none of this would even be an issue!

      Just kidding but I had to show you that what you posted was utter stupidity. Please refrain from posting on this issue FOREVER

    • 4 years ago
  • tanyetta
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • okinawanmajik:

      if they wipe isreal off the map whos next thats the issue here its not the jews or muslums are anyone that is provoking these people its that the jews are the easiest target for them today take away isreal and it will be someone else

    • 4 years ago
  • ac
  • UWAZell
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      UWAZell  

    • What I would like to ask one of these supposed Hamas 'leaders' is what exactly do they believe they will achieve with their tactics. Are they trying to gain power over their 'enemy' thorough fear, trying to excite their followers through ignorance and hate, or possibly a little of both. If both, the former of their plan is failing miserably and the latter is having their people killed at a much greater rate.

      Now I am not a fan or either party's actions... but I wish these two would have an all out war and get it over with.... a war on the dance floor.

    • 4 years ago
  • SarahAna
  • SarahAna
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • SarahAna:

      No anger Sarah, but an observation. Especially in view of Hamas latest threat to kill Jewish children world wide, seems like maybe it's a curse to be born a Jew. If all this hate was directed at me because of the accident of my birth I wouldn't much care for it.

    • 4 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  

    • Well of course, and the Israeli government and those who are just like them in their hate LOVE THIS. They just won't admit it. I bet the usuals here hope they kill many Jewish children so they have a reason to spew more hate here. It was the reaction they were waiting and hoping for. Hamas cares not for the children killed in Gaza or anywhere else, and neither does the Israeli government or haters. They are all so similar it is truly frightening.

    • 4 years ago
  • cabinettags
  • ClayCreature
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      ClayCreature  

    • Actually, the belief that it's okay to kill Jewish individuals where ever they are in the world and whether they have anything to do with Israel or not, predates the current war. Hamas, Hezbollah, other like groups, and their supporters in the Arab world have made clear their desire to eliminate all Jews. They're actually pretty open about it. All you have to do is listen, and not selectively ignore it just because you disagree with Israel's actions.

    • 4 years ago
  • unimatrix0
  • tanyetta
  • akamaial
  • vixen0078
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      vixen0078  

    • It is a neverending, disgusting cycle.

      It scares me that they are now threatening the children of the world. Why would you say such a thing if you did not want people to be outraged and react in a violent manner.

      They remind me of children. Both sides. Tit for tat only it isn't so minor when you start murdering people. They are to proud and selfish and hurt to look at things with reason.

      Those of us on the outside will never, ever be able to do anything about this. I guess we just have to wait until they wipe each other out. Then maybe the fighting will stop. I doubt it though. This whole thing is liable to start a world wide gang war; that is if that hasn't already started to happen.

    • 4 years ago
  • akamaial
  • Vierotchka
  • akamaial
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      akamaial [removed]  
    • akamaial:

      I posted this statement earlier on related topics such as this, and my opinion remains the same . . . . . . . .
      No matter what either side of this issue state, it is fueled by the underlying media by each sides special interest propaganda. Shoveling through this endless pile of shit to realize the truth requires sheer genius. Then the uniformed and misinformed pile on more shit. It stinks so bad of animosity and ignorance, it sickens the intellect, not to mention the spirit.

    • 4 years ago
  • csmonut
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      csmonut  

    • akamaial,
      One would need to take a look at the history of the region to understand how Hamas was voted in.
      Also, I do not readily believe that Hamas is using women and children as "shields."
      The population is about 1.5 million people in an area that is about 139 square miles (360 square kilometers) so...if a war is waged, and bombs fall on this area, how does one NOT kill innocents?
      Vierotchka, above, made a remark about Likud. I know nothing of them, so I looked them up on Wikipedia.
      Take a look and do some further reading.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likud

    • 4 years ago
  • unimatrix0
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • csmonut:

      you've got a good brain cs. Keep on reading. Look at both sides, without prejudice, then make up your own mind. I'd suggest you start when where arab villages fled their homes in what is now Israel to get out of the way of the war right after Israel declared their state in 1948. Those folks are who we now call Palestinians. The ones that didn't run we call Israelis.

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • csmonut:

      That Israel uses Palestinian women an children as human shields is also a fact - and it doesn't hesitate to shoot Palestinian women and children, either. You had a point?

    • 4 years ago
  • akamaial
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      akamaial [removed]  

    • Tell me please. Palestine's vote Hamas into leadership, who then systematically start storing rockets and other weapons in hospital, schools, nursery's, and mosques within the Palestine civilian community. How could they not know what the consequences would be when Hamas commenced firing rockets at Israel from their own neighborhoods? Furthermore, when Israel responds in kind (which you know they surely would), why have the children and innocent non combatants not been moved from harms way? Surely they know that firing rockets into Israel continually will bring repercussions. It appears to me that Hamas is indeed hiding behind children and civilians for protection and to solicit world opinion to their side under the guise of innocence. Am I missing something here?

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • akamaial
  • UrbanGypsy
  • Vierotchka
  • vladrath
  • cabinettags
  • Ragan
  • ghostbar
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      ghostbar  

    • Go Israel! Israel can't stop fighting their biggest national threat just because a bunch of people that are not threaten says this is unfair... Like if Hamas were all good and nice!

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • podman12
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      podman12  
    • ghostbar:

      so your saying vierotchka that you support Hamas, a terrorist group elected to govern the Pals, and has officially stated in the past that they don't recognize the state of Israel and that they want them pushed into the sea?

      You support terrorists is that it?

    • 4 years ago
  • cabinettags
  • Vierotchka
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • threats against jewish children is how this particular event began. has hamas not been threatening all jews for as long as they have existed? antisemetic ranting is what keeps isreal on edge the constant bombing of thier children is why an attack has been launched. its like bin laden saying he is going to attack our buildings with planes if we dont get out of afganastan. just shows you how backwards some people acctualy think.

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • cabinettags
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • there is no land grab here. the land in question has belonged to isreal up until this year. gaza was given to the palastinians in an attempt to foster peace and hamas has instead used it to launch rocket attacks deeper into isreal. also know your history after the 6 day war isreal could have conquered syria jordan and had control of the sinai penninsula all of wich were given back to the muslums in exchange for the right to exist.the arab world hasnt held up there end. do you think america would give mexico back arizona or california for peace and not do anything if colorado was getting bombed from those territories?

    • 4 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • William9
  • Vierotchka
  • tanyetta
  • cabinettags
  • datamined
  • freecrack
  • Vierotchka
  • wierdobeardo
  • Vierotchka
  • podman12
  • tanyetta
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      tanyetta  
    • datamined:

      I am pro-human forget that other bull crap people try to hide behind. Pro-country my ass, how about pro-world, how about pro-Peace or pro-Peace in the region where there isn't Peace. That sounds good to me.

    • 4 years ago
  • cabinettags
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      cabinettags  
    • datamined:

      I'm pro Israeli but I'm NOT anti Palestinian. I'm anti Hamas. By targeting a sovereign nations civilians, Hamas legalized anything that nation state cares to do about it. Firing rockets at your neighbor is an act of war. That's what they're getting. Israel was given their country by UN majority vote. They've paid for it anyway 3 times in blood. They now own it.

      Israel cares more about the Palestinian's than Hamas does. Now Hamas is threatening WORLDWIDE genocide. You think these are the good guys??? I think Israel should continue until Hamas is no more. If Hamas cared about their civilians, they'd get them out of the line of fire. Israel's only mistake was putting up with this 8 years before they did anything effective about it.

      The Palestinians are merely being used as pawns by Iran and the remaining Islamic countries; they want Israel removed and refuse to make peace with her. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to learn the Palestinians were intimated into voting Hamas in. Israel's enemies engineered this confrontation. No nation state can abide rocket attacks on their citizens. And nobody would think it strange for that nation to retaliate unless that nation was Israel.

      Everyone is up in arms about the destruction and loss of life. Any responsible govt with 1/2 a brain in their head wouldn't endanger their citizens by attacking a larger & far better equipped neighbor whether they liked them or no. The hell with the term "proportional". What's proportional with 8 years of rocket attacks?

      If you want to make comparisons then imagine what happens if a tiny group of people starts firing rockets at Russian citizens. The fault lies in Antisemitism. You can see the unreasoned hate in some of these posts. Whether you hate the Jews or not, they have a right to exist.

      Calling this lies doesn't change the fact. Let the Palestinians throw Hamas out. Hamas isn't serving their interests, it's dragging them through a war and making sure they stay in the crosshairs for maximum world opinion. They don't care about their people, they just want to hurt Israel. To repeat myself; The Israelis care more about the Palestinian people than does Hamas. Who ever heard of calling up your "enemy" to give advance warning of an air strike on the building & telling you to get out of the way?

    • 4 years ago
  • nkeg87
  • pressrecord
  • Ragan
  • Ponderingtheimponderables
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      Ponderingtheimponderables  

    • This is exactly the type of expected reaction that will have us all involved in our own demise. People are protesting all over the world and unlike some would think, they aren't all Arabs or Muslims.

      This has to stop or be stopped before we all pay the price. Nuclear fallout respects no borders and we all breathe the same air.

      American's/Canadians and Europeans have once again become targets overseas. I know there has to be a brain out there that can put an end to the violence and find a resolution to the Israeli land grab that so displeases the people that were there before 1948.

    • 4 years ago
  • unimatrix0
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