Day Labor in Portland

I fucking hate people that say mexicans or any other ilegal person should go home,espeically people who say mexicans should go home.

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IS DOING ALL THE HARD LABOR THAT OTHER PEOPLE DON"T FOR AN UNREASONABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY?THOSE FUCKING ILEGAL ALIENS

FUCK YOU ANYBODY AGAINST THEM BEING IN AMERICAN,THIER TRYING TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE FOR THEMSELVES JUST LIKE ME AND EVRYONE ELSE FUCK YOU.

YES THERES PEOPLE WHO COULD USE THW WORK,BUT HOW MANY OF THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THE FUCKING WORK?

Im sorry for the excessive vulgar language but topics like these really piss me off,because i for one know that ilegals wor harder than any other person in this damn country,so why shouldn't they allowed to make a living?

Put yourselves in their situation,what would you do?

How obscene!!! Who do they think they are??? Jobs are for Americans!!! It's in the constitution dummy. America.. oh AMERICA!!!

To heck with the illegals, there are enough US citizens who could use that work!

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I love living in a country where doing the right thing is illegal. mindcontrol may be ranting a little, but he is totally right. And its not about Portland(alone). This could be any city, or maybe the city of townsville.
It's funny how people get all pissed about people breaking the law but all agree the law is fubar. Day labors do more for our economy than someone on welfare or some other government program. So stop blaming them. Atleast they have jobs(if only for a day).
Trust me, whatever your mad about, it's probably Congress' fault.

The whole system is BASSakwards if you ask me. Employing immigrants isn't the problem the problem is much bigger than that. We live in America the biggest consumer of EVERYTHING, we are 5% of the worlds population but product 30% of its waste... WTF.

We complain when another person wants to come to this country and work jobs that nobody else wants to work... get over it.

The truth of the matter is... THERE IS ENOUGH to go around for everyone in the world period!

But until we stop living like greedy children we'll continue to live in a world of HAVES and HAVE NOTS.

Peace,

~ Mind Control

Being from portland, I am not very surprised. If you want to get a taste of how many illegal aliens are in america, go to portland. You will be surprised.

This post from another forum is very informative so I'm re-posting here with link. Additionally, news reports say the yearly net cost to America of illegal aliens amounts to $50 billion. In these times of economic crisis, we simply can't afford this.

"America has no obligation to provide housing or work for illegal aliens. These two obligations fall to Mexico in the case of the Mexican illegal aliens. In addition, Mexico has the responsibility to address and moderate its economic inequality, the national condition that prompts illegal migration from Mexico to America. But Mexico effectively ignores its inherent responsibility because Mexico yearly receives billions of dollars sent there from America by Mexican illegal aliens. This money accounts for the second largest source of Mexico?s foreign revenue. As well, American employers benefit from the presence of illegal aliens because this foreign labor pool will work for less, and without benefits or decent working conditions. All may easily see, therefore, that illegal migration from Mexico to America will continue for economic motivations, on both sides of the border. Yet, this narrow motivation ignores the host of negative social, economic, and political impacts fostered by the presence of illegal aliens in America. As one example, thousands of criminal illegal aliens sit in state prisons draining the state budget for their imprisonment. Illegal alien criminals also account for a sizable fraction of the criminal activity in the state. America already has enough criminals. As another example, news reports say the yearly net cost to America of illegal aliens amounts to $50 billion. This money could instead go to meet the needs of Americans. America will prosper all the more without illegal aliens. The U. S. Congress must pass a law, with teeth, prohibiting employers from hiring illegal aliens, and also must say no to amnesty for illegal aliens. Without the prospect of either a job or an amnesty, the illegal aliens now here would tend to self-deport, and the foreign nationals would tend not to come. In turn, the home countries of the illegal aliens would have to face and resolve their internal conditions causing illegal migration. Meanwhile, America can get along fine without illegal aliens."

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/11/19/news/top_stories/111806122050.txt

"...just like the rest of us?" Ummm, no. We're legal citizens of this country; day laborers who are here illegally are NOT. And in these recent times of layoffs and financial strain for all Americans, I sincerely hope the Obama Administration will do something about the illegal alien situation. There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens out of work and it's a slap in the face to them for people to be hiring illegals.

For all the people who do not know those "illegal inmigrants" they pay taxes, ss,etc. money they don't get back because of the inmigration status so they do contribute to this country. Why do you focus on them when we have real terrorist here who come to our schools bring they're religion. culture and we as citizen welcome that but we attact others who are here to do jobs NO CITIZEN WANTS TO DO? HOW MANY OF YOU WILL WORK IN THE FIELDS? or in roof with no protection? Safety first right? I did not said it ok for them to be here illegally but we should treat them like humans we all have rights don't we?

For the people who have a problem with this video and those featured in it, the issue seems to be with illegal immigration, but there is an easy solution. Illegal immigrants are only illegal because the US laws make them so. Since the idea is so bothersome to some, write to your government officials and demand they change the laws and simply provide these people with a path to legalization. It's that easy. Then the government won't have to spend millions of dollars trying to round them up and kick them out. Then that money could be used for other things, such as education.

imagine if you can for a moment that you are forced to leave your home, your comfort, your food, your family . . forced for various reasons but ultimately for economic reasons and the desire to give your family what it deserves like everyone else: a chance at this game of survival. this economic despair you experience is in some ways due to a group of people living north of you who enjoy almost complete prosperity (in comparison) in a way you dream of through movies and stories you have been told about el norte. so you take this huge journey and major risk to life and person and you leave all you have ever known and you arrive and realize that this dream is not everything anyone ever told you it would be. you are received not with open arms or even with welcome but with disdain by people who hope to prosper from your hard work and admonish you at the same time. welcome to los estados.
it's not true that we "americans" all look on hardworking people with contempt but some of us speak from frustration born out of our own downfalls and failures without completely comprehending the hate we spawn. shame on you! do you think if mexico and el salvador and honduras and (name any developing nation south or east or west of us) had jobs and opportunity at a rate equal to the US that these migrantes would for one moment want to leave their countries where family is central, neighbors still look out for each other, cars stop on the road to help out strangers, and fruit falls from the trees literally and metaphorically?
This is not the land is it idealized to be but it could be. Instead of hating, we could be working towards ending economic disparity across classes, races, and borders. We should all be working together to make our world a place where people do not have to leave everything that is central to their existence in order to survive.
and thank you jbt for shedding light on the reality that is this: people die without food and work=food, wherever it is and however one can get it. if you hate the people crossing our borders, stop shopping at walmart and buying cheap products and get involved in the economic movement to help other nations develop! support sustainable measures at home and abroad. or, simply step out to the street corner where these migrantes are waiting for jobs (any jobs) and listen to their stories. get to know these people you hate and you might realize this experience is so much more than you. it is all of us! thank you!! bravo!!

These immigrants should be given a citizanship. Imagine all the taxes the government could collecting if they help immigrants get jobs and a citizenship.

Well done this is great!

I think this center is great. And people just should remember that there ancestors immigrated here as well. Almost everybody is not from here.

I believe the video was designed to encourage people to discuss this controversial topic. However, what I read in the comments is that people are heavily wedded to their previous opinions, and that this short video hasn't influenced their opinions, which is a shame. I found the video to be well-made and showed the reality of a situation that people only read about in newspapers. I would like to see a longer video, and more thoughtful opinions.

that makes it so much more fair for those people, what a nice and thoughtful concept...hurrah portland....i wish they would do that here in Phoenix....Phoenix could use one of those centers badly I am sure

If you lived in a country that was full of poverty and no options would you consider immigrating illegally to a country where it seemed that there was promise of earning an income you could actually live on? I would. I have a very hard time understanding why people are so quick to blame the individuals instead of the situation.
We don't look for solutions, instead we build a big fence and hope "they" stay away. There is also that whole sticky bit surrounding how cheap you want your vegetables, or your hotel room, or your house cleaning, or your landscaping. We exploit these people in their home country and in our country. We could never fault our own greed and gluttony...

wow, it's striking (tho not surprising) to see such openly entitled white folks.

the video -- and the music -- are really beautiful. nicely done!

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When did all you "people" stop liking other "people"?

That guy that paints the house in this pod is a person. He is trying to feed himself and take care of his people. I do that every day, it's hard sometimes.

I have met people from other countries,legally here or otherwise, and guess what? They're all still people.

Best of luck, Pedro.

THE SITUATION IN THE UNITED STATES WITH FOREIGN WORKERS IS NOT A NEW OCCURRENCE. THE VALUE OF THE AMERICAN DOLLAR, COMBINED WITH NUMEROUS JOB OPPORTUNITIES IN FIELDS OF WORK MANY AMERICANS CONSIDER TOO TOUGH. IN MY OPINION, TO WANT TO STOP THE WORKERS FROM GETTING THE JOB DONE, SHOULD BE A WANT TO BETTER THEIR ECONOMIC SITUATION IN THEIR COUNTRY. THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL THEY NO LONGER NEED TO WORK IN THE US.

The things most "American" (people from South AMERICA are still Americans) don't understand is the power vacuum left behind by the United States. In many countries, mostly in central America, when there was fear that the vote was turning out to be "too left" during the communist era, the US sent millions of dollars to eradicate the problem. This has led to countless of civil wars... and what proceeds civil war? Economic collapse. So don't blame these people for coming here illegally. Perhaps if their countries weren't left in such a terrible state they wouldn't all try to flock here. And another thing about green cards.. it's not that easy. It's not like getting a passport! You have millions of people applying for them every year and the embassies only accept a few depending on the country. Do your research. Then talk.

being from detroit we have a strong latino COMMUNITY,but i have visited portland in the past, and i cant believ the number of illegal immigrants there.i can understand the idea of coming into the us and trying to become a citizen,or to work on a visa, but all the illegal aliens,are committing a crime,sorry but INS needs to arrest them and sen them home. the fact that they work for 2-3 dollars an hour really screws up the job market for legitimate americans,who are unemployed and looking for work. the fact that illegals are used for work in the us,is one of the reasons that the unemployment rate is up! SOT----------P

I think its time for America to get serious about controlling who is allowed to enter this country. There is a need now more than ever since the country has lost so many jobs and the country now faces a financial crisis that we need to identify Illegal and legal immigrants and its essential that if we want to have any control on who enters this country one of the first things we should do is to do a complete procedure of identification and back ground check on those attempting to enter this country.

If immigrants apply though the proper legal channels to enter this country they should be given a thorough investigation to determine if they are the types of people who will be able to contribute to America, for instance to be able to contribute to this country because they have a skill or education that would be beneficial to this countries future. That check should include a criminal, physical and mental back ground check as well as a verifiable amount of money in their possession, available to them at the time of their admission into this country to pay for their needs for a period of two years without any outside assistance.

Those seeking to enter this country should be finger printed, and issued a Holographic Photo ID - Identification card to be the only acceptable form of identification for any transaction of business or personal affairs while in this country.No other form of identification, such as a card issued from the Mexican EMBASSY Consular Identification cards wouldn't be accepted.

If sponsored, the sponsor must also have or will in a specified time have secured a job for the sponsored.
If not sponsored, a job must be attained within a specified time. No job, no residency.

The immigrants would be required pass an entrance test which tested their ability to read,write and speak English at a level that they could converse with English speaking people without the use of a interpreter.

I realize that these requirements would perhaps deny and limit the number of immigrants coming into this country but in demanding that these requirements be met we would in the process be receiving only those people who would be a asset to this country and not more dependents on welfare or unaccountable terrorists.

It figures with a child molesting mayor, Portland should be denied state and federal $ and put on trial for immigration law violations, remeber illegal alliens have cost this country 1/4 of it's hospitals and over 1/4 amont of money as Iraq.

Key word here people that is wrong is ILLEGAL!

Portland make me puk! It's is always a gateway or truckers of Arab background documented as doing cross country deadheads, in trucks to coastal ports and areas with security interest, in order the "check" the routes for possibly problems. This is a fact and a project called OPERATION SPEED TRUCKER that is monitored by DPS Troopers in many states. Here's the thorn, it is FEDERALLY mandated that when suspicous drivers are found, if they have no infractions this Intel must be deleted after 1 year. Either we have terrorists or ACLU, trying to set us to to all be Killed.

WAKE UP before all you smell is the coffins!

Being a Portlander, as well as native Oregonian who grew up in a small Willamette Valley town that revolved around agriculture, I'm all to familiar with the controversy that surrounds this topic.
I find that it's a bit of a slippery slop. I do understand some of the anger over the idea of illegal aliens "taking" jobs away from legal residence, especially in a time of such economic instability. However, the humane side tends to win out and side more with the idea of helping these people; not only find work, but also assist in making sure they're not being taken advantage of.
Thanks so much for making this pod.