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Comcast.net: Pakistani Taliban threatens attack on White House

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ISLAMABAD — Pakistan's Taliban chief claimed responsibility Tuesday for a deadly assault on a police academy, saying he wanted to retaliate for U.S. missile attacks on the militant bases on the border with Afghanistan. Baitullah Mehsud, who has a $5 million bounty on his head from the United States, also vowed to "amaze everyone in the world" with an attack on Washington or even the White House.

The FBI, however, said he had made similar threats previously and there was no indication of anything imminent.

Mehsud, who gave a flurry of media interviews Tuesday, has no record of actually striking targets abroad although he is suspected of being behind a 10-man cell arrested in Barcelona in January 2008 for plotting suicide attacks in Spain.
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  • ejasun
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      ejasun  
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    • Why do we pay attention to advertise for Taliban? Does the government want to keep us scared keep or minds of the financial Crisis?

      We act like the News & Government is our new religion!

    • 3 years ago
  • akamaial
  • AveryMoore
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      AveryMoore  
    • Such a busy day! More Strawman Arguments and talking points!

      First, explain to us all how the following statements on this same page tell us we should ignore extremists...

      “The threat is being assessed? Agreed absolutely - it must be investigated, thoroughly.”

      “Do we need to be too careful in both instances? In my view, yes! When a threat is made, or uncovered, hesitation cannot be justified. “

      Second, here is the promised list of Islamic nations --

      Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Chad, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Suriname, Syria, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Western Sahara, Yemen.

      Of their populations how many are known to qualify as terrorist\extremists? According to who?

      Since, according to Akamaial, all of Islam threatens America, which listed nations should be nuked first?

      Why are none of these nations being blockaded?

      Why did we fight wars to keep Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Bosnia too --- Islamic?

      No one sane (and certainly not an Eisenhower conservative) is ever going to advise anyone to ignore extremists – of any sort. Nor have I.

      But let's be honest, honesty will never stop the talking-point obsessive compulsive from ignoring all other considerations, like analysis in depth, historical reality, common sense, trust in the nation's intel agencies (when they are not ignored or abused by a wingnut bureaucracy) and in a wider sense of common decency, put country simple – respect for truth.

      Truth. Not media exaggerations and political propaganda...As always,

      Pls advise.

    • 3 years ago
  • mik661
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      mik661  
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    • Here is why Akamaial is right and you are wrong Avery in the sense of the threat of Muslim extremists and the truth of their actions.

    • 3 years ago
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • Uncle, you are overdoing it as usual. Using the propaganda card when you could simply say that you do believe that the Taliban intends to do harm. There are many on the left who believe that the Taliban is a danger but also realize that it is some of our own behaviors that helped them along. We should prevent them from doing harm but also not do things that are against our future self interest. We left our military bases in Saudi Arabia after 9-11 because that is what was enraging the extreme Moslems. We were on what they consider holy ground. We did not consider it holy ground but they did. Catholics consider the Vatican holy ground and its their right.

      Also many who believe the Taliban are a real danger also believe that the extreme right wing of fundamentalist Christianity are also a danger and would be a real danger if we did not have a society that calls for separation of church and state.

    • 3 years ago
  • unclecharlie
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    • carmalite:

      I see your point. Well said! Thanks for the input...but, I wouldn't BE Uncle Charlie if I didn't overdo it! Overdoing it makes it much more palatable, and besides, it's fun, too! (nothing like doing a Halal slaughter of a Sacred Cow, even if I do get "blood" all over me...YeeHaw!)

    • 3 years ago
  • AveryMoore
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      AveryMoore  
    • carmalite:

      unclecharlie is a har-har, poke-in-the-eye guy, who will tell you in private, not in public view, that he is harmless, and he can't resist being The Clown.

      I have asked him to polish his work with greater effort before he attempts to sell it to Comedy Central.

      As a rule natural Clowns don't perceive a need to do that, they just want to be perceived as funny. As though finding the essence of people and caricaturing the grosser elements of what clowns most dislike in others.

      On more serious matters, and wisely, he does not contend, especially where he recognizes it makes no sense to contend.

      Kudos to unclecharlie for that maturity.

    • 3 years ago
  • unclecharlie
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      unclecharlie  
    • Well, you know, akamaial, heaven forbid we shoud OFFEND anyone! We all know the Muslims are a People of Peace (at least, 'til they press The Magic Button on their bomb vest...) Because those in power in this country view Christianity as a threat, and Islam as a Religion of Peace, the Taliban is free to spout off. The strongest statement the Democrats would make is "heh heh did he really say THAT?" But we don't want to take them seriously, because if we did, then we would be "intolerant". Maybe when they blow up the White House, THEN we'll take them seriously.....but then, we'll have those on the Far Left (Franken, Moore, etc.) claim "it was an act of protest against an evil country who has sent its soldiers to kill thousands of Peace Loving Taliban....." I would love to see Michael Moore dressed in camo in a Humvee dodging IEDs. YeeHaw!

    • 3 years ago
  • akamaial
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      akamaial [removed]  
    • http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=322_1233073285
      With the absolute abundance of open declarations and displays of hate and lies from Islamic theocratic extremism throughout the world, it stuns the mind of the sane that media and world governments seemingly ignore this alarming reality. That all leaders of free nations do not or refuse to accept that this "religion of peace" is a false and rapidly growing cancer upon mankind worldwide, is inexplicable and beyond rational moral clarity to me.

    • 3 years ago
  • AveryMoore
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      AveryMoore  
    • Akamaial

      Interesting... You now believe that if Muslims inhabit the White House (in any possible capacity) it's curtains for Democracy, women in bikinis, historic\heroic values, Sundays at church, moral clarity, apple pie, the Flag, the World Series, Golf classics, national security, et al. It all goes down the drain?

      Forget that we have

      a huge military
      a justice department
      FBI, CIA, state and local police forces,
      homeland security
      a national guard
      a secret service
      and a vast intel network, both electronic and physical to protect America.

      Obviously, in your humble estimation, they don't matter at all.

      As no one else does, you clearly understand that President Obama "has put in motion plans" and this can only mean the end of the world as we know it. Hell, how can you be wrong to think it's all but guaranteed? We are helpless. Who but you will protect us?

      To live with such monumental fear, to seek to keep it amplified and justify it daily with manic intensity, must almost be impossible to bear. So honestly, what choice, or relief, do you have but to return to Current daily

      -- to denounce a President you know nothing about:
      -- to defame a bureaucracy you know nothing about:
      -- to slander methods and protocols to protect real national security which you know nothing about:
      -- and treat as subhuman vultures a bunch of foreign people who represent to you the ultimate boogie man. A vast multi-continental amalgam whose languages, cultures, history, and aspirations you know nothing about.

      BOO!

      Depending on how brave and confident you are, you could take a chance on Something Bolder than whining in print. March yourself right on down to Homeland Security and make your case.

      Demand that The President Of The United States be arrested and held in custody -- because you say so.

      Don't be at all shy. You're there to save the country from unspeakable peril. You won't need to shout it from the rooftops, my guess is that they'll understand you at once.

      The Homeland Security people naturally are not simpletons, or fools, and will want you to provide absolute documented proof of your assertions.

      I'm certain that once you list all your reasons (a plethora of innuendo, gossip, sophistry, false conclusions from false assumptions, hate-site web references, non sequitur clips of people taken out of context, and so on) those good people will see The Light and understand your unique viewpoint.

      Do not falter in your convictions. In the strongest terms insist that you will not leave their office until they do exactly what you say. Should they ask why they should oblige you, tell them -- more than any other person on American soil, you know everything imaginable about how to protect the country from a Law Professor\President who obviously is just not up to your psychological standards of merit.

      I think Homeland Security will agree at once that you are not just anybody. The degrees of credibility difference separating you (and a mere President subjected to intense scrutiny for as long as he has been in political life) are indeed vast..

      So pack a really big lunch and take a laptop with you..

      You're in for a long wait.

    • 3 years ago
  • akamaial
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      akamaial [removed]  
    • AveryMoore:

      Many a fall comes from ignoring the importance of some of the simplest of scenarios which are believed to be insignificant, and most commonly by those who esteem themselves more highly than they ought.

      Decay from within is insidious and the erosion is more often greater than imagined because it is perceived that "it just couldn't possibly be so."

      Am I foolish in my perceptions? Quite possibly so.
      Are you in yours? Also quite possibly so.
      We each are convinced of the folly of each others position regarding this Issue, and only the passage of time can reveal the clarity (or lack of) of our perceptions.

    • 3 years ago
  • mik661
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      mik661  
    • AveryMoore:

      Actually Avery the claim that the nominee for the justice department stated in a speech that sharia law could be applied in the us is second hand hearsay from an alleged attendee who has been disputed by several other attendees. Others at that same speech have said that nothing resembling that remark was ever made. This doesnt surprise me as the Republican strategy created by Lee Atwater and perfected by Karl Rove has been to create a wedge and polarize the issue usually by utiliizing a bald faced lie that you repeat endlessely until people begin to believe it. Dick Cheney still employs the endless repeat of lies to this day to attempt to rouse the base.

    • 3 years ago
  • AveryMoore
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    • AveryMoore:

      Akamaial,

      Golly! So, you mean to say you're not going to tell Homeland Security to arrest the President?

      Gee whillikers! How will we ever be saved from this Yellow (ooops! sorry, that's "inoperatve"!) this dreaded Islamic Peril!

      Would you like a list of all the countries where Islam is practiced and not regarded as in any way threatening?

      Would you like a reminder of all the counties once dominated by Islam where Jews and everyone else lived in safety until the "Islamists" were kicked out?

      Start with Spain.

      Would it help calm your remarkable fear of America disintegrating (corrupted by Gay Marriage, right?) and a President who just isn't as hip to ethnic danger as are you?

      As to the Right's cavalcade of lies, gossip and paranoia portraits, mik661 got it right.

      This avalanche of shit is nothing more than a typically orchestrated nutbar psy-op to make the credulous perpetually afraid. Paralyzed.

      Do you not understand how many Americans of good faith, good character, good morals and far better judgment than you - you insult with your wild claims?

      It's an article of faith. Of course not. Like GeeDubya history will prove you're the smart one!

      Good Luck on that...As I said above - you're in for a very long wait.

      But do keep it up. I'll wager you are instructing far more people than you might imagine about why Mr. Gingrich thinks it's time the Right formed an alternative to the present herd of loons demolishing their own and the GOP's credibility....

    • 3 years ago
  • akamaial
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      akamaial [removed]  
    • AveryMoore:

      Okay Avery, thanks for your facetious suggestions with your implied ( correction: open) disdain for my concerns and state of mind.
      Your response is most reflective (in my opinion) of the genre of the social elites progressive thinking of the many who held the same school of thought during the rise of the Third Reich.
      With that said, I'll leave you with the last words, which you usually have many.

    • 3 years ago
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • If they ever topple the Pakistani government, the entire world is in danger. I assume if that happend, India would eleminate innocent and guilty out of fear.

    • 3 years ago
  • jubal
  • akamaial
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      akamaial [removed]  
    • Avery, the deterioration of what moral clarity we possess, the freedoms we have, and the values that we hold dear, have continuously and insidiously been eroded by time and embracing changes that have the appearance of innocence, when nothing could be farther from the truth.

      Most certainly you are of the age where you have seen great changes in your life time, as have I. We have definitely walked different paths in life, whereby we have been conditioned by those years in and to our very environments as we matured, which I'm sure are vastly different from one another, which lends itself to our difference of perspective.

      Do you keep company with those who hold values (or lack of) that are diametrically opposed to yours? Of course not! We may need to interact for a variety of reasons, but often only for the sake of expediency. In turn, that is my reason for my concerns with the Influence of Islam in my homeland, because of the purpose and the very cause they embrace.

      I have spent a vast amount of time searching out the heart and soul of this monotheistic cult that poses itself as a peaceful religion, when in reality ( in my opinion), it is anything but what it portends to be. There is just too much history and ugly current world events from the influence of Islam (admittedly our own actions have been less than stellar), that in my mind clearly shows the true purpose and character of this "faith". Therefore I will oppose Islam and those who embrace it with every fiber of my being........in the mind of a Muslim, I am kuffaar, and should be subjugated to groveling in the street in their presence, or killed for refusing to accept and practice their interpretation of the laws of Allah. Sorry my good man, I want NO part of it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8789NMWZ9EI&feature=player_embedded

      Take a moment, watch this, then look further, there is much to learn.

    • 3 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • akamaial:

      akamaial. I agree with many of your points, the same could be said of Christianity and the fact that during its rise, from 1AD to the present, over 10 million people were exterminated world wide, in the name of Jesus. And there still are armed conflicts between Protestants and Catholics.

      All the Abrahamic religions are violence based because their God depicted in the Holy Scriptures is a violent God. These descendants, whether Jewish, Islamic, or Christian all have the same Father GOD Jehovah, but the Jews and Muslims don't dare say his name because of their superstitions, where as the Christians created a Trinity so they could call that God Jesus.

      Have you ever read the Old Testament, it is full of murder and violence; all ordered by the so called Creator God.

    • 3 years ago
  • AveryMoore
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      AveryMoore  
    • akamaial,

      A conjecture.

      If you spread a rumor that the government suppressed proof that astronaut dinosaurs brought Jesus with them in an armada of spaceships – within a year, how many Americans would believe it?

      Sir, you are becoming positively weird. You continue to vacillate between ALL of Islam is evil incarnate, and here is “PROOF!” that ONE of them actually is a Very Bad Apple: therefore gird for an ATTACK!

      Which suggests this. This is not an issue involving discernment, balance or rationality, (things you usually attend to nicely) but a matter of visceral fear, immune to anything resembling common sense.

      In short, like talk radio you indulge in well-intentioned, patriotic, fear mongering.

      Is it time to recall the immortal words of Phil Gramm?

      It was a moment to remember when Phil (our man from ENRON) gave it to the nation straight between the eyes.

      “"You've heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession..." "We have sort of become a nation of whiners," he said.

      "You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline.."

      Joining Mr. Gramm in a campaign to decry 'America: The Wimp State', the Right saw clearly that True Americans must never be whiners, wimps, cry-babies, fear mongers, conspiracy theorists or treasonous cowards who undermine the country to compete for their moment of airtime.

      There was that to understand, and everything you might think is wrong with everything, is all in your stupid head.

      See?

      It was axiomatic to the Right - weaklings and the timid were very welcome to depart, trembling, for elsewhere..

      Yet who appears later as the darling of the Right?

      Gloating\bawling Glenn Beck, the Johnny Ray of political crooners, blubbering and cowering for an America “threatened” by forces nowhere apparent on anyone else's radar.

      Except in his head.

      Quite a picture we present to the world.

      Imagine! Muslims, in the White House!

      No wonder Mount Redoubt exploded in protest!

    • 3 years ago
  • akamaial
  • akamaial
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      akamaial [removed]  
    • I read that this threat is in fact seriously being investigated now to discern if it is possibly so...after all, we have been attacked after being forewarned in the past .

    • 3 years ago
  • AveryMoore
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      AveryMoore  
    • akamaial:

      The threat is being assessed? Agreed absolutely - it must be investigated, thoroughly.

      Notwithstanding that, in the past we have seen too often, with our very own Internment camps and illegal land confiscations, how such fear can be warped into incarceration mania.

      Remember too, how long it takes for such abuses to be redressed by the courts. The families of Europe's Jewish population are still trying to recover stolen valuables more than 60 years after their parents were murdered and their homes looted.

      Do we need to be too careful in both instances? In my view, yes!

      When a threat is made, or uncovered, hesitation cannot be justified.

      But including innocent bystanders [Gypsies, anyone?] as somehow genetically predetermined to follow a philosophy of revenge and murder just is too far off the beam.

      What it gains in preparedness it loses in being too afraid of too many people. No one can be awake 24\7.

    • 3 years ago
  • AveryMoore
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      AveryMoore  
    • America is the "reason" the Taliban attacked a training school and murdered people?

      How is it possible that Baitullah Mehsud can give "a flurry of interviews" and not be taken down? No one knows where he gives interviews?

      The bounty on Mr. Mehsud is only $5 million?

      Looks like it's time to up the ante. Substantially.

    • 3 years ago
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