Hail to the intellectual president?
source: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227076.000-comment-hail-to-the-intellectual-presiden...
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Can Obama break this cycle?
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alivein85
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"The Shrub" thats a good one, lol. Which reminds me, here is a book recommendation for anyone out there who may not have heard of it before:
You're Not Stupid Get the Truth: A Brief on the Bush Presidency, by William J Cox
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alivein85
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akamaial [removed]
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plusaf:
Your input is always level-headed and appreciated +af.
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akamaial [removed]
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allIknowis
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plusaf:
I was wondering how you were feeling about your vote these days. ;-)
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wantssomefun [removed]
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Remember the B.O.M.B.? Bush, Obama, McCain Bailout.....
Corporate Welfare right in front of our eyes.....
More troops to Afghanistan........
Not only that, Obama laughed at legalizing marijuana. The school system is messed up because of the Department Of Education, not free market principles...
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wantssomefun [removed]
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Kylsport
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As always, we've taken the bait, hook, and sinker at quarrelling with each other over sides because the 'powers that be' know that if they can get the media to provoke us in knit-picking our differences and when the 'two pillars' of democrat and republican are pitted against one another, they form a triangle or two dimensional pyramid with the ever seeing eye of Orace as the capstone. Take a look at the one dollar bill, if you understand this parable.
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Kylsport
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librelover
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cztheday, I think you make some valid points. I must admit that I find validity in both arguments. Your's, cztheday, highlight some of the generalizations that do appear, but being that I am surrounded by twenty-something and thirty-something "intellectuals" at a university quite a bit, I must say that some of the points made about leftist tendencies do hold true for more partisan members of the crowd. However, I don't think the Republican party can avoid the same criticism, which I believe you were illustrating as well.
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librelover
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regjoeschmo
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Now if we could just get our public schools to agree that thinking is good for our kids.....
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regjoeschmo
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Mr_Costello
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regjoeschmo:
Jajajá. Right on regjoeschmo.
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Mr_Costello
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cztheday
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Not being either a twenty-something or a thirty-something (hell, I am only hanging onto fourty-something by the thinnest of margins), I don't know whether I am excluded from the group complained of here. But assuming for the moment that the tent is big enough to include me (now THAT, my friends, is a BIG TENT), I will admit that there is a kernal of truth in this rant -- but that kernal is fully surrounded by an assumption that renders the entire conclusion to be of doubtful value.
The author essentially recites a laundry list of attitudes taken and statements given by individuals or small groups and then extrapolates them by assuming that all, or even a majority of "privileged intellectuals (?)" are of precisely the same opinion or would react in precisely the same way. But I have little doubt that the author would accept the same kind of generalizations if they were applied to HIS end of the political spectrum.
For example, Senator Specter may have been hailed as a hero around the water cooler by a very tiny minority of these privileged intellectuals, but I opine with great confidence that the vast majority of these same people recall only too well the many times Senator Specter has served as the Critical vote AGAINST important Democratic initiatives. This reported adulation of Specter by the left is as absurd as an allegation that one bit of praise from the Right of Jesse Helms suddenly made HIM that leading light for that segment of the political spectrum. Hardly.
As for Madonna, I believe he is simply wrong. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY thinks that Madonna is an intellectual, nor is anyone from the "clique" the author describes going to change their views about the wars. Likewise a call to arms by Tom Selleck is likely hardly going to persuade the Right that the time to attack Iran is today.
The list goes on and on, but I can't help making a special note of the "books" by Coulter and Levin. I consider myself to be firmly independent and moderate in my political leanings. While I DO also consider myself to be an intellectual, I realize that there are many, many others whose minds are more capable than mine. But I have read excerpts from Coulter's "book," and it is nothing but a loose collection of lunative ravings held together by crude, vulgar and tasteless garbage I have ever had the displeasure of reading. It is hard to imagine anyone thinking LESS of Ms. Coulture, but I would certainly not do so if she hired a ghost writer.
Nor do I think it would be appropriatre to ascribe all of the shockingly racist and ethnophobic signage on display at the last round of Tea Parties to either all Republicans or even all conservative Republicans. We may disagree, but I have far more respect for them than that. This author clearly does NOT feel the same way with respect to me and my "ilk."
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cztheday
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~The Obama generation doesn’t think twice about openly ridiculing folks who don’t follow in lockstep. They’re still acting like there’s a Texan in the White House. They can’t let go. They don’t want to. Because, like the believers of a certain 7th century ideology that’s made a big comeback in recent years, their objective is not, despite claims to the contrary, to coexist. To quote Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, it’s “to rule.”
~Instead of gossiping at the water cooler, today’s privileged jugend hover in packs around TV monitors to mock the usual suspects - poor old Sarah Palin, the Tea Partiers, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Miss California (chivalry is deader than dead). Together, they telegraph their warning to anyone who might disagree: DON'T.
~They believe Loose Change is an important documentary, Al Franken a natural for the Senate, and Arlen Specter a hero. They judge people not for their principles or achievements, but by the letter that comes after their name
~As the media distracts us with constant fear-mongering about hate speech, racism, and possible assassination attempts on our President - by right wing nuts, of course - a virulent new strain of politically correct intolerance has risen swiftly and silently in our midst: an all-out intifada against the individual.
~Talking with otherwise well-educated twenty- and thirty-somethings who seem unable (or unwilling) to distinguish between the cavalier anti-war ravings of Madonna in concert and the published propaganda of Hillary Clinton (Making History) and Barack Obama (The Audacity of Hope). While it’s reassuring to know that Gen Oers still know how to read, it’s chilling to observe how readily they accept the words attributed to their idols at face value.
~For reading these books, they are validated by their peers, complimented for their good taste - and tacitly discouraged from turning a critical eye to even a single sentence. No surprise, then, that brainwashing is also known as “thought reform,” with social acceptance the dangling carrot. The thoughts in these books are “good.”
~This is the exact opposite of how Gen Oers are taught to view literature by conservative thinkers like Mark Levin and Ann Coulter (who, BTW, actually write their own books). In these cases, the same kiddies are emboldened to ridicule, condemn and name call - no reading required. The thoughts in these books are “bad.”
~Guilt also plays a major part in brainwashing. Everyone from gay activists and environmentalists to socialized medicine zealots use it to browbeat people into submission (like any of us need more that). If you resist their arguments, then you must: a) be suffering from internalized homophobia; b) own shares in Exxon, or c) secretly want minorities to die waiting to get into the ER..
~The challenge for young people is that, unless they already know someone who at least identifies as a “classical liberal,” their malleable minds will be hard pressed to discover the joy of civil discourse or rational debate. They won’t be exposed to any.
~In 1983, best-selling shrink M. Scott Peck published his second book, People of The Lie. In it, he tells the stories of several patients whom he came to believe could be clinically diagnosed as “evil” - a character disorder he describes as “militant ignorance.” According to Peck, an evil person prefers to psychologically destroy others rather than face his (or her) own faults, exhibits zero empathy towards his targeted scapegoat, and enjoys falsely labeling other people as evil.~You know, like spending eight years comparing people you disagree with to Hitler.
.....excerpts from: DENIED: Bigotry of the Obamatrons
by Charles Winecoff
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/cwinecoff/2009/05/04/denied-bigotry-of-the-oba.... - 3 years ago
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alivein85
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akamaial:
you're insane and i stopped reading your comment halfway through.
please note also that with the way the page scrolls, i came to that conclusion before knowing who you are.
also i wonder if those"letters" at the end of peoples names dont signify some kind of "accomplishment" or something.... dont remember, smoke too much pot.... oh well.
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alivein85
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akamaial [removed]
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akamaial:
~Even through a ganja haze, a measure of thought could have brought you to the realization that the "letter" referred to at the end of peoples names meant that ones accomplishment and character is not defined by a 'R' or 'D'.
~If only you had followed the link, you would have understood that these comments are from a gay liberalist who opened his eyes and mind one day and came to realize the hypocrisy and vitriol of his peers.
~Though not of his particular persuasion, I found his comments and perception of the liberal left to be in parallel with my personal observations through-out the years...possibly I am biased as well.?...yes, we all are..! - 3 years ago
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akamaial:
akamaial, you make some very valid points.
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barbara3d
