Obama says the war in Afghanistan will continue

"Indecisiveness is almost as worse (sic) as deciding to do bad things."

Correct. Which is why decisions should be made carefully and deliberately. Because doing bad things is worse than being indecisive.

But you're a reactionary, so you wouldn't know anything about that.

(sic) is used when there is a grammar or spelling problem. Not when you alter the meaning.

Oops.

And it is as worse. I will not retract that EVER.

Part of me thinks you're being sarcastic, but if you aren't, life isn't so black and white, sooooo, stop it.

Well said. I believe spreading freedom and our way of life through bombs and death is probably one of the most effective and diplomatic ways it can be done, and people just don't realize it quite yet.

If you mean the Taliban, then yes, you are correct. If you mean anyone else, then no, those are screams. They'll be murdered in massive numbers. It may have been a mistake to go there in the first place. It was certainly a mistake to just hang out there for 8 years under Bush with no clear strategy. But you are living in some kind of pathetic fantasy land.

Our guidance? They aren't inferior or stupid, they just don't have the institutions to defend themselves from the extremists; I agree that we need to stay, but I don't agree with your reason.

ever eat a poppyseed bagel ?

but he didn't

and starting a new one? What?

Well, at least your first 6 words were true.

How about if the Taliban rolls into the cities basically unopposed to kill all the people who have worked to modernize their country?

Everything isn't so black and white.

We are the police men and the world is our patrol.

"We are the police men and the world is our patrol"

Read: We are one of the world's lone super-powers, and we are at once expected to give peaceful aid to people who will not receive it; as well as refrain from violence when foreign regimes threaten our safety.

Start thinking for yourself, mate.

'How about if the Taliban rolls into the cities basically unopposed to kill all the people who have worked to modernize their country?'

Then I would say they had failed at the stated objective. It doesn't negate the fact that innocent people will be killed and the blood is on his hands. He is now a WAR PRESIDENT pushing a war of global hegemony and using a boogeyman to keep it going.

Those boogeymen in Afghanistan are very real and are killing people who share the most remote political liberalism. If the most radical elements get into power again in the big cities, ethnic cleansing, rape, murder; if we're there, why not try to stabilize the country so we don't have to end up going back in in three years? Also, how is this war a hegemony?

@ Ares were actually not a lone supper power there is Russia and China. BTW China pretty much owns us. then also you have the UK which has been around long than we have so there is a few more. if you talk about where we go to war with regime that are a threat to us what about iraq? really had no threat to us. then you have our realtionship with saudis which alot of the terrorist are from including bin laden.

Reaper:

"...one of the world's lone super-powers..."

What was confusing to you about that statement?

I seriously hope you were joking with that post.. but if not.. wow.

Looking at your other comments, your ideas on liberalism are ignorant though not surprising if you hang out on this site.

But thank you for your service anyway.

Good luck to you bro. I spent 2 in Asscrackistan and 3 in Iraq.

Stay safe, ClayJ. My kindest regards if/when you are deployed.

Thank you Clay. Be safe and find the Germans for they can get beer!

HAAATERRR.

I've got to agree with clownpuncher here, which I'm sure is a first. You guys are all acting pathetic. Current has been getting steadily dumber and dumber. It's embarrassing. I'm starting to think this is really a secret conservative troll site to make liberals look bad and that I've been fooled.

Get a fucking grip on reality already.

Obama has given the commanders in Iraq the new goal of ending the war. There are timetables for withdrawl and it is ending. What did you expect him to do for God's sake?

Unless you secretly love war and are looking for ways to undermine Obama in order to get another neo-con in power so we can fight even more wars? In which case, you all are doing a tremendous job!

Doug, you really don't get it do you? We don't have any business meddling in other SOVEREIGN country's affairs. Oh wait a minute. That's what it's about BUSINESS. We're not protecting anyone over there. What the "war" in Iraq and Afghanistan is about at this point is war profiteering, and that's it.

Take a look at the history of how America does war. We still have bases in Vietnam, Japan, Guam, etc.. We are not just a mere presence on these lands. It is significant. What other country do you know of that has bases in the United States? Can you name one?

Do we have any bases in Australia and Canada, Mexico? If so, why not?

All this talk about WMD. If anyone has weapons of mass destruction it's the U.S.A.. And yeah, we use them, and don't give a shit about innocent human life

I like your flair, QuestionGeek, but we were attack by Islamic Fundamentalists and neutralizing a government that sheltered them was perfectly within our right. A stable and safe Afghanistan is better for the US.

And what WMD's are we using?

How is anyone sure that it was they who attacked us?. There is so much fishiness going on in regards to 9-11, it boggles the mind. If they did attack us, why are we so stupid as to let those so called terrorists take flying lessons on our land with expired visas? A lot of people weren't doing their job. What plane hit the pentagon? They claim it was a jumbo jet? The evidence at the scene does not support that. How does our defense system let a plane fly that low around such an important USA building? How did building no. 7 in New York just all of a sudden collapse when no plane ever hit it? Etc., etc.,

Doug, the WMD that we possess are global thermal and tactical nuclear warheads. They are weapons. They work on a mass scale. They are destructive. We stand ready to use them at any time, and quite possibly for very greedy and selfish reasons if the situation demands. Just because nukes are not chemical weapons that make people die in dramatic ways does not make them less cruel. Besides, the ever heard of nuclear fallout and radiation sickness?

Furthermore, QuestionGeek's points regarding the placement of military bases remains valid and unaddressed. Recognizing these obvious facts requires insight, and I'm glad to hear that there are still some people in the world with this level of awareness.

The Taliban itself didn't attack us, but it harbored groups and individuals that would and could attack us in the way they did on September 11th.

And please, I thought we were past these conspiracy theories. I'm pretty weary about the U.S. government and any apathy or omission on its part that may have led to the attacks, and its history in the Middle East and Afghanistan, but seriously, the conspiracy theories are the opposite of the scientific method. Having a belief, and then selectively picking out evidence to support said belief.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

As for U.S. military bases around the world, it's our government securing its interests and it enables a global reach. I don't think we should have power of other countries, but most countries allow our bases and welcome the military support of a much larger power, IE South Korea.

The U.S. can't be blamed for all or most of the problems in the world; I used to this so, but if you take an honest look at just recent history, our government isn't that bad.

drude, what conspiracy theory? The military industrial complex was a term former dwight Eisenhower coined in his farewell speech to america.
Second war profiteering is taking place or kbr, haliburton, lockheed martin, boeing wouldn't be bidding for contracts with our military. There is no accidental correlation between the wars and bases we instal and their profits rising. Its really happening and its no secret. Simply because no one cares.

Now for an honest look at american history.. Well guess what I spent my years at uni studying... All the problems in the world may not come from the US, but the US is around all the problems in the world thats our history in a nutshell. Really we have nothing to protect, all we're killing are poor people in the desert, they're not a bunch of afghan james bonds ready to book flights to the US with fake passports. Our interest are only related to oil and keeping cheap oil prices in america to subvert our eventual collapse due suburban sprawl. We can argue that point forever because no government official would ever say thats the priority, but all you just need are 2 eyes and a brain to put 2 and 2 together.

RaceBannon, I’m referring to the 9/11 conspiracy theories that QuestiontheGeek seems to be implying; I am well aware of war profiteering and a rich history of U.S. imperialism, and while some may have had ulterior motives for advocating war, it doesn’t mean that the entire operation is wrong or without benefits for the people of Afghanistan and our country.

Our government isn’t beholden completely to private interests, it isn’t as simple as that.

We’re not killing poor people in the deserts; we’re fighting radical Islamic militants who threaten the stability of central Asia and in turn the world. I think the solution is to negotiate with the moderate Taliban, because the Pakistanis won’t support the Pashtun national groups in the area who want to divvy up Pakistan and Afghanistan for their own national country.

Also, oil isn’t everything, that’s a vast overstatement and much too simple.

DRude,

We knocked the Taliban out of power. We achieved the victory we sought. Nation building is best doen by diplomats. If the Taliban take power again, and if they harbor AQ again, then we can take them out again.

Thanks a lot, franksalot - astute observations.
How can we continue an 8-year revenge war, with the "hope" of ending the ideology of terrorism?!?! How many bodies must pile up,... how many years must pass,... how much self-righteousness and pride must show,... before their/our speciously phantom "victory" is achieved?!?!

PEACE

I agree. War makes terrorists. This is a failed policy.

finally, someone shares my thoughts. I completely agree, War is the Impetus for terrorism.

Let's not forget the benefits, Afghanistan has a chance to modernize, utilities are improving, and little girls can go to school; I don't think this war is all bad.

The benefits at what cost to American lives?

And yet we will never truly leave Iraq.

finger touches nose !

That's ridiculous, show me some policies they have in common besides the war in Afghanistan...

DRude,

Gitmo, Iraq, Bailing out wall street, the Patriot Act.....

DRude,

North Korea, unwillingness to protect the southern border, pot prosecutions, same sex marriage........

He never promised to stop the war in Afghanistan; did you listen to him at all?

No. There isn't much choice. But I think Obama is owned by Wall Street and the military industrial complex to a large extent. The President is not in charge.

If the "morons" are surprised, they obviously didn't pay much attention to what he was saying throughout the 2008 campaign. Repeatedly, he professed a commitment to the conflict in Afghanistan and he seems to be following through.

I'm with Jon on this one.

Anyone who voted for Obama thinking he would stop the Afgan War is an idiot and wasn't listening. He said repeatedly and consistently that we would ramp up the war in Afghanistan. He campaigned on opposition to the Iraq war. Further, he said that his opposition to the Iraq war was primarily because Iraq drew our attention away from the war he thought we should be fighting in Afganistan.

Maybe you have him confused with Kucinich?

Look, I don't like this war either. I think there are much better ways to confront terrorism. But since I have ears and eyes and don't live inside my imagination, I understand that this is not only NOT a surprise, but is in fact the delivering on a campaign promise. Jeesh.

Yeah Kucinich!