Boris Johnson, advises George W. Bush not to bring his book tour to Britain, because "he might never see Texas again."
source: http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/e8jyc/mayor_of_london_boris_johnson_advises_georg...
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Firstly he highlights the stand still caused in cities because of the amount of anti war protests 'riots' which would occur. In this he warned "he might never see Texas again." because people will try to arrest him for war crimes.
"“Waterboarding” is a disgusting practice by which the victim is deliberately made to think that he is drowning. It is not some cunning new psych-ops technique conceived by the CIA. It has been used in the dungeons of dictators for centuries. It is not compatible either with the US constitution or the UN convention against torture. It is deemed to be torture in this country, and above all there is no evidence whatever that it has ever succeeded in doing what Mr Bush claimed. It does not work. "-http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/8133411/George-W.-Bus...
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ayipis
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same idiots should do a "mock" beheading
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ayipis:
Muslim extremists behead innocent people to terrorize the innocent people into submission, which, by the way, tend to be moderate muslims who don't want to follow behind the extremists. Just how Christian extremists in the United States used to bomb abortion clinics to terrorize people into not getting abortions.
Now about water boarding, it is FUCKING TORTURE! Though there is the element of being inhumane, a perhaps even bigger concern where you are coming from is the results torture bears when gathering reliable information. That is to say, torture hardly gathers any reliable information. Its FUCKING TORTURE, as in the one being tortured will do anything to make the pain and/or trauma stop. That includes lying out their ass if they don't actually have information or if they run out of information, because torturers don't really stop if the tortured tell them that they don't know anything or that they don't know any more. It keeps going until the tortured gives up enough information to satisfy the torturers, even if they have to give a shit load of false information! And here is the icing on the cake, there is not really any good way to distinguish the reliable intel procured from torture from the made up crap.
So whoop de shit, you have another picture that is not really a representation of the whole and an idiotic opinion that is based upon a narrow feed of information rather than fact. Congrats, do you want a cookie?
By the way, what do you do for employment?
- 1 year ago
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Varex_Sythe
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ayipis
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Varex_Sythe:
okay..again you are missing the point..we dont get the "glee" in waterboarding people..we were not waterboarding muslims TILL WE END UP HAVING A 747 in one of our buildings..and a threat of one of those radical muslims KILLING MUSLIMS AND NON-MUSLIMS to push their radical Islamic agenda is great..and we get information..AGAIN WE GET INFORMATION to save you..me..her..him..they..them..
now beheading is a form of torture that serves no purpose than to push and agenda.THAT IS WHY ITS DONE IN FRONT OF A CAMERA..it is not saving anybody..
bombing idiots in abortion clinics is a form of terrorism NOT TORTURE..(and why the fuck are you bringing these nut bags into this conversation???)
i have a lot more pictures but it seems current tv ban anything that is anti-muslim..i WOULD NOT BE surprise if it was your ass you complained about it (LOL)
what do i do for employment..I watch morons like you..making sure your radical ass do not connect with another radical ass..
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ayipis:
Did I hit a nerve, or are you not capable of forming coherent thoughts at this time?
No, most people don't get "glee" from water boarding other people, assuming that "glee" is a warm fuzzy feeling of happiness or something akin to that. However, there are a fair number of people who do enjoy inflicting harm, pain, and/or humiliation upon others. We had a few in our military before the whole water boarding topic became an issue. Soldiers were standing in front of human pyramids composed of naked terrorist "suspects" smiling like they were a kid getting their picture taken at Disney Land. Does this represent the majority of our soldiers? No, not even close. But people like that do exist and psychological experiments, done decades before this current mess of a war we are in was even fathomed, prove that people often have a difficult time exercising good judgement and ignoring what they deem to be a figure of authority even if they know what they are being told to do is morally reprehensible.
No, we were not water boarding muslims until we ended up having a 747 flown into our buildings. However, we had plenty of intelligence on terrorists and terrorist activities from the Clinton administration that passed on the intel gathered to the Bush administration. Information that was collected without the use of "enhanced interrogation techniques." But it wasn't a primary concern for the Bush administration, nor was making sure that agencies like the FBI and CIA were properly communicating in order to utilize sources and maximize their intelligence gathering abilities. Hell, the 12th of September, Rice was supposed to give a speech on how ballistic missiles were a threat to this nation.
"AGAIN WE GET THE INFORMATION"...
No, we don't. Torture is not proven to get reliable information. In fact it is quite the opposite. People who are tortured are in pain and/or extreme emotional distress. They say ANYTHING to get it to stop. That means they make shit up, and there is often no way to tell if what a person being interrogated by "enhanced" means to tell which is actually relevant and important information or if it is complete malarky that will get soldiers and civilians killed.Beheading is done in front of a camera because of it's shock value, not because of it's value as torture. The idea is that you apply control of the masses through the threat of fear, much like the Bush administration did when they made use of the terror alert system.
I bring it into the conversation because it is no more a form of torture than beheading. It is designed to strike in fear at the cost of fewer lives. Torture is not designed to cause fear in the masses, but is designed to get information or instill a method of thought in an individual through physical and/or emotional pain. If a person dies quickly, the torture is a failure.
Right, current is pro muslim therefor they are banning the beheading pictures. Why don't you test that theory and put up some pictures of porn. If they get rid of those as well it means that they are pro muslim, and not that they have certain social standards which prevent pictures and content of grotesque or perverted views.
So you're telling me that you are an unemployed wee bitch. My guess is that you are either a 14 year old brat who has access to a computer and the internet, or a 40+ year old who lives in his parents basement and takes his political frustration out by making arguments that are based upon fallacies.
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Varex_Sythe:
You shouldn't argue with the idiotocracy on current. Your sinking to their level.
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jubal:
Force of habit, but you are correct.
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Varex_Sythe:
I know I have been doing that a little lately but I came to my senses yet again.
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