Continental commuter plane crashes in NY

I am just copying and pasting what I said in the other post since the time it is at hand;

All this have to do of how FAA and the Airlines are running their business and I really few a little angry with all these lives lost. In addition, not that many people are paying attention to what I am saying about the FAA, Pilots and Traffic Controllers business and I do not like to come here and say: "I told you so!" Some one needs to step up and regulate this entire operation.

1. Regulate aircraft altitude in urban areas
2. Take off and landing routes operation and coordination
3. Fine the violators

How profoundly sad. Those waiting for her to celebrate Sean's birthday..... what horrific news to have to endure, only to reopen old wounds. Hopefully she and Sean are reunited. That and her effective crusade for a safer USA may be a comfort in their loss.

Just a kink in the machine.

9/11 Activist Who Sued Government Killed In Buffalo Plane Crash

One of the passengers aboard the plane that crashed into a house 10 miles from Buffalo, New York, airport late on Thursday was a 9/11 widow who had questioned the official account of the attacks, sued the government and consistently lobbied for an Investigative Commission.

Beverly Eckert was flying to the city for a celebration of what would have been her husband Sean Rooney’s 58th birthday, reports the Press Association. Mr Rooney died on the 98th floor of the World Trade Center’s south tower.

She was among the 44 passengers and four crew on board the Continental Connection flight operated by Colgan Air when it crashed in the Buffalo suburb of Clarence Center.

After 9/11, Ms Eckert refused to accept a cash settlement as compensation and instead sued the government.

“I am suing because unlike other investigative avenues… my lawsuit requires all testimony be given under oath and fully uses powers to compel evidence.” Eckert wrote in December 2003 in a statement entitled My Silence Cannot Be Bought.

“The victims’ fund was not created in a spirit of compassion.… Lawmakers capped the liability of the airlines at the behest of lobbyists who descended on Washington while the September 11 fires still smoldered.” she wrote.

Other September 11 relatives who accepted settlements forfeited their right to sue the airlines, airports, security companies, or other US organizations that could have been faulted for negligence and inadequate security measures. This ensured that very little detail of the attacks emerged outside of the government appointed 9/11 Commission.

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9/11 Activist Who Sued Government Killed In Buffalo Plane Crash 161008pptv2

In the same statement Ms Eckert also wrote:

“I want to know what went so wrong with our intelligence and security systems that a band of religious fanatics was able to turn four U.S. passenger jets into an enemy force, attack our cities and kill 3,000 civilians with terrifying ease. I want to know why two 110-story skyscrapers collapsed in less than two hours and why escape and rescue options were so limited.”

As a co-founder of the steering committee group “Voices For Sept. 11” Ms Eckert joined other activists in pushing for an Investigative Commission.

Only because of the consistent efforts of the relatives groups were the deaths of more than 2800 Americans ever formally investigated by a government who would have rather kept the truth about 9/11 buried.

In 2004 the Ms Eckert also successfully lobbied Congress to pass a sweeping reform of the U.S. intelligence system.

Last week, Ms Eckert was at the White House to talk with President Barack Obama about how the new administration could deal with terror suspects.

According to reports, the Colgan Air flight was on final approach to Buffalo airport, 5 miles from the runway, when the control tower lost all contact. Weather was reported as light snow and fog and a 17 MPH wind. There was no radio message indicating a problem, so whatever happened happened in an instant. Only one house on the ground was destroyed, so the aircraft was on a nearly vertical path when it hit.

it's nice of ya'll to put the names of those lost in the crash...
my thoughts are with those who lost a loved one...
pendeja

Partial list of victims:
Names of people killed in crash of Continental Connection Flight 3407. The names have been provided by airline officials, relatives or friends.

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Crew members:

_ Capt. Marvin Renslow, pilot, of Lutz, Fla.

_ Rebecca Shaw, first officer

_ Matilda Quintero, flight attendent

_ Donna Prisco, flight attendent

_ Capt. Joseph Zuffoletto, off-duty crew member.

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Passengers:

_ Beverly Eckert, of Stamford, Conn., whose husband died in the World Trade Center attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

_ Ellyce Kausner, student at Florida Coastal School of Law.

_ Maddy Loftus, of Parsippany, N.J. Was headed to Buffalo weekend reunion of women hockey players.

http://www.startribune.com/business/39554837.html?elr=KArks:DCiU1OiP:DiiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Identity of 50th victim confirmed. He is Capt. Joseph Zuffoletto, an off duty Captain who took the flight at the last minute.

It had been originally believed that there were 44 passengers and 4 crew members aboard. Capt Zuffoletto was not on the original passenger list. Off duty crew members wil often board a plane last minute if there is an empty seat.

hmmmm....

There is an economic recession...companies are doing their best to trim their budgets....stretching maintenance out....cutting your work force (those still employed have to do far more than they used to)...employees are tired and fearful (more likely to make mistakes),...

Probably not the best time to put your life into the hands of another.

It was extremely windy yesterday. I wonder if that had anything to do with it.
No heros here like on the Hudson River... Just dead people

How utterly devastating for all involved.

One of my coworkers just told me that his Brother was supposed to be on that flight.
Last night, he decided to stay in NYC for a night and planned to leave this morning.

He escaped certain death. I'm sure he's grateful he changed his mind.

one of my biggest fears is crashing because i travel a lot and those commuter planes always scare me. i'm white knuckling it the whole time.

Ait traffic controllers warned of icing shorty AFTER the accident. Way to be proactive.

Im glad I flew home yesterday before this happened or i would have been quite afraid to fly.

A widow of a 911 victim was on this flight.

This is sad

I used to fly a lot. And my biggest fear was ALWAYS a plane crash. And I always wonder what people think or feel like when they realize the plane is going straight into the ground. It's heartbreaking. I cant imagine dying like that.

WAS IT A MISSLE?!?

This is just, tragic...... imagine how many loved ones were lost.....

just tragic

UPDATE:

Witnesses on the ground say the plane was on fire in the air before it crashed.

They also report it hit one house, spread to another, and apparently caught several vehicles on fire as well.

UPDATE:
44 Passengers and 4 crew members were aboard.
None survived.
1 person on the ground was killed as well.

Could you imagine being in the home? Asleep.....and BOOM.

oh...that's just horrible for everyone. The fear that one has in a crash is too much to think about it.

Oh my, how horrible. Well, as they say "That which does not kill you delays the inevitable."

latest update by fire officials reports NO survivors