If Animals Rejects It, Imagine What It Is Doing to Us

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The Animals can tell us a lot!

Initially this movie was about how to secure the path of a machine. However I end up to pick up something interesting that is related to humans, acoustic issues and excessive noise.
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  • khromadjo
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      khromadjo  
    • It has been long documented that noise pollution hurts animals and humans in physiological and psychological ways. Stress, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, tinnitus and hearing loss are just some (believe me, there are more) of the long-term effects of noise pollution. Some birds even change their mating habits, night noises disrupt bats' echolocation, and whales will occasionally beach themselves because of noise pollution for exaggerated sonar signals. It's no wonder the word noise comes from the Greek nausea.

    • 3 years ago
  • SeaJade
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      SeaJade  
    • Thank you for posting this stopnoise. I would like you to be my neighbor :-)
      I too feel stressed when i hear inharmonious accoustics - sound can be used to heal or destroy, and the sounds of man's machines can cause great aggravation, and most people don't pick up why, they just accept it and feel out of sorts and or annoyed.
      For me, give me the sound of the wind blowing through trees, a bird song, the sound of water babbling in a brook, the ocean, a good laugh or giggle from a child, or a soothing melody.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • It was by chance that I pick up this scene. It was not planned and I saw more events happening than I am showing here. In many points he could handle the tractor's noise but it seems that the beep signals was his limit and he tried to get away from it as far as he could. I think it was a torture to his ears. Now imagine what we humans go through. The point it is that beep signals are excessive and abusive.

      If it is not good for animals it cannot be good for humans either.

    • 3 years ago
  • nick31lp
  • rasting
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • rasting:

      I sympathize a lot with people working on Construction and the noise abuse they have to go through. There are mainly two sides affected by Construction activities. The workers themselves and the people that live near by it. Acoustic issues and events affect differently workers and near by people. Those that works on the construction develops a certain degree of tolerance because of predicability of activities, work choices and monetary reward. For those that lives near by none of these apply to them but on the contrary they are subject to the impact acoustic inconvenience that this construction activity brings. There are many things that one can do to improve work and public safety and I will detail it in the next movie.

    • 3 years ago
  • anjela3
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      anjela3  
    • So, this is why I don't live in a city.
      As for the dog being smart/avoiding noise....what does this say about eating butter or margarine? I mean, you can't even get cockroaches or ants to eat it yet people think nothing of slathering it on a nice piece of freshly baked bread.....

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • We all know that construction have their noise. We tolerate that because they will be there for a period of time and it will be finish. But they do not need to make it worse. There are a lots of things that can be done in a better way or even machines that can be muffler out. All these measures can be applied to the safety of pedestrians, blind or not blind. You will understand what I am talking about when I release the next movies.

    • 3 years ago
  • rabidlemur
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      rabidlemur  
    • Yes no one likes leaf blowers, car alarms or loud music shaking their windows, but when you open up a Pandora's box like this and start banning noise, where do you stop? Who chooses what is noise, who chooses how loud something is before it is noise?

      I would love to not have to hear leaf blowers, but do I have the right to impose my will upon someone else? What gives me the right to force someone to change what they do?

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • rabidlemur:

      Rabidlemur, First the responsibility to not infringing in the rights of others fall on those that creates and initiate the sound energy, not the other way around as you are describing.

      We all know that there are some degree of sounds in nature and everywhere. What we are talking about here it is in regards to everything that it is excessive. We are talking about noise that trespasses property lines. We are talking about peoples behavior and the misuse of it when they have these devices on their hands. We are talking about retaliation from groups that use these noise devices to harass others anywhere or any time they wishes. Remember I did not started my social acoustic research Yesterday. I have been observing and analyzing acoustic social issues for 10 Years. These social acoustic issues it is not as general and not as simplistic as many people think they are.

    • 3 years ago
  • rabidlemur
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      rabidlemur  
    • rabidlemur:

      What is excessive? Shall we all walk around with a decibel reader on? What is the punishment for making .001 extra decibels of noise in Stopnoises world? What if I am hyper sensitive to noise, should I require the entire apartment complex to whisper at all times?

      You must live in a strange world, because where I live if someone is making excessive noise, I ask them to stop, I interact with them.

      Honestly you sound like you may have Agoraphobia or Acousticophobia.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • rabidlemur:

      The Law clearly specifies excessive noise as being those that it is offensive to a person of normal sensitivities. Since we have cameras with microphones that can pick up excessive sounds trespassing our property lines, we should oppose to that. We all know that traffic needs to go by. There are a lots of people that passes in our roads that does not make an acoustic statement while they are passing through. However there are many people creating excessive noise with their cars that does not follow the same path. These are the excessive ones!

    • 3 years ago
  • rabidlemur
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      rabidlemur  
    • rabidlemur:

      "The Law clearly specifies excessive noise as being those that it is offensive to a person of normal sensitivities"

      My point exactly, what is normal? That's totally subjective, my sensitivities are vastly different from yours, which of us is normal?

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • rabidlemur:

      Let me give you a simple example since you have a problem to define what is normal and what is not. What is excessive and what is not.

      Suppose we meet each other. I shake your hand and give you a smile and say "nice to meet you!" That's considerate normal behavior.

      Now suppose we meet each other and without a word, I slap your face with my forehand and kick you in the groin.

      That would be considerate an abnormal behavior.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • Vierotchka:

      That is another nuisances that many Communities all over America enacted ordinances banning it from operation. One point it is that it blows pathogens into the air. The other it is the noise and the third it is the gas pollution. They could accomplish the work with a quiet electrical water power jet with lots of savings and quietness and at the same time water the landscape and plants. I just feel that some times people do not use their full brain capacity to do their housing or landscape maintenance. The other point it is that some industries have a serious problem developing and bringing quiet technologies to appliances in the market. So it becomes both a behavior issue from one side and a lack of choices on the other side.

    • 3 years ago
  • SeaJade
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      SeaJade  
    • Vierotchka:

      Thank you for bringing this up. That is another thing I would change about the world - they are not only acoustically fracturing to the nervous system, but also destroys the natural permaculture of an area (messes with the good insects, including bees), let alone the dust and pollutants they blow about in the air or over to the next door neighbor's property. Can you imagine how the people who use the leaf blowers must feel physically at the end of their day's work. They cannot feel very well or very happy as they expose themselves to that kind of pollution, which includes carrying a tank of gasoline on their backs all day...

    • 3 years ago
  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
    • I'm with stopnoise on at least one point. Car alarms. I think the car alarms that honk when people lock their cars suck!!!! When you have a whole lot full of cars with people coming in and out and the horn honking everytime they lock or unlock their cars it is just useless noise, no safety or anything else. Just noise. And there are always the people who have to push the button half a dozen times just because they are like a 2 year old kid with a spoon and a bunch of pans. And the ones that have the alarms set so sensitive that if a butterfly lands on the car it honks for an hour. Of coarse, they are long gone----so it just sits there and honks.
      Some jerk did that the other night in the parking lot. His car alarm goes off at 0300---and it honked for an hour. FINALLY, he came out shut it off. He has NO IDEA how close his precious escalade came to getting several .44 caliber holes blown through the battery. About one more minute and he'd have had a dead caddie.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • Wetdog:

      I totally understand your point as often I speak about this travesty. Here in the City we have people coming at any time of the day or night and pushing these buttons emitting a horn sound or a special effects sound waking up people from deep sleep. Several times I had a person going back and forth. Opsss! I forgot something, Whaaack! Opss! I forgot something again, Whaaaack! He went back and forth five times whacking his car horn. Do you want to know what time it was? 1:15 AM in the morning.

    • 3 years ago
  • wholefreespirit
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      wholefreespirit  
    • Me no likey loud noise either....I wake up every day to horns honking just outside my window. : (
      I thought about how they have no wake zones in residential areas when you are on a boat....why not no honk zones for streets too?

    • 3 years ago
  • petarro
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      petarro  
    • Huh!? This is a street dog!:
      1. They are Scared of EVERYTHING
      2. He has no House, which one did you refer to?
      3. Dogs count on their hearing and nose, he may be going away as he is just losing one of his Senses.

      You are being INVADED!!!

      Seriously, you are traumatized just because there is a Siren going on every now and then!? To the point you go out to film it? -You do know that was the reason you were at the roof- Right?

      What should you do:
      1. Go down the Stair, contact the creator of the Vehicle and ask them why was the sound set so loud?
      2. Was it maybe because some other lady once sue them because she couldn't hear the Siren and was ran over?
      3. If a Law tells them to put it so High, ask which Law and then contact your Local Lawmakers.

      Take REAL Action!

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • petarro:

      Petarro, My job as a Journalist it is expose the issue. People's job it is to act and stop the abuse! As far as it is concern my job is done!

      Just remember that this machine was beeping many hours all day long. We all understand that the EMS, emergency medical systems use noise in case of emergencies. In regards to this construction site, the issue it is about safety. However they question here is if they could have done the work without acoustically abusing the people near by with excessive noise. I can see many safety mistakes just by looking at the site here.

      Ps: By the way Petarro, From the neighbors side, they presented the City Personnel the Acoustic Laws that specify they cannot have excessive noise or trespass property lines. After that they asked the City Planning Personnel in regards to this mysterious Federal Law and she could not produce one. The reason that she could not produce one can be two:
      1. She do not want the neighbors to know about this law.
      2. There might be other reasons and she is instead protecting the noise makers.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • petarro
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      petarro  
    • petarro:

      RIght, and that means now they are fear less. Have you ever watched a Dog in your life before? How about at the sea shore? How do they retreat?

      Dogs have a great sense of hear and being 2 or 10 meters away from the sound is not going to make a difference. Nor it does to us. Nor it did to the Camera. Remember the Test?

      Take Action, contact the Manufacturer of the Vehicle and ask them for a sound regulator or something.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • By the way there was a technical issue with the sound bit rate as I can hear this tic tic tic in the background that is not present in the original movie. I might have to delete the entire post to upload an edited version as the new video-egg froze on upload. If I do please welcome to come back and chime on it again. Therefore save your comments through. Thanks!

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • Animals can be sweet or more ferocious according with their natural instinct behavior or accordingly of the way they have been educated. You can even train a dog to adapt to an abusive environment. However humans will not going to accept being pushed against their will when a question of abuse arise. Humans can call other humans to act and assemble themselves to defeat an abuser instead trying to do all that in their own. Animals depend on us to act and we must help them from being abused. Therefore our duties here are two. Help each other and help the animals from being abused.

    • 3 years ago
  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
    • stopnoise:

      LOL, well, I cann't argue with that---except that dogs act in packs also.
      My point was that dogs always opt for the simplest most straight forward solution first. If it is too noisy, move away. If the guy on the bobcat chased the dog with it, sooner or later the dog would change tactics and attack the guy on the bobcat.(and dogs are PLENTY smart enough to know who and what is making the bobcat run).
      I'm not really argueing with you here stopnoise---I'm calling on my 35 years of experience training police and hunting dogs. We can learn a lot from the instincts that developed over millions of years to insure survival is what I think.

      The thought comes to mind. Have you ever tried the noise cancelling earphones? Noise is compression waves created in the air. Noise cancelling headphones have microphones that pick up outside sound---and then generating sound waves that cancel out the outside noise. In a nutshell---creating the exact opposite soundwaves so that when they meet, the waves cancel themselves out.

      That is just a suggestion of something you might look into----maybe not perfect, or for all situations, but it might be some help to your frayed nerves(I hope).

      You can find them at most large electronics stores, and they are not very expensive.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • stopnoise:

      wetdog, maybe you have not figure out yet that this is my area of research and teaching. I teach safety in the work place using quiet technologies. I am a problem solver and I do not exactly live near by any of these sites. I have been invited to cover the issue because I asked to do it to my friends. This is part of my Acoustic work. On the other hand I do sympathize with the people that have to put up with construction from the both sides of the story.

    • 3 years ago
  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
    • ---------"Dogs cannot recognize they are being violated and pushed out of their habitats against their will, so they just react instinctively."-----------

      Sure they do. It is called biting. In dog psychology, this is considered a normal course of action.

      Someone tries to abuse you or take over your territory, you bark at them, a warning. If they persist, you bite them.

      Dogs aren't dumb.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • Dogs cannot recognize they are being violated and pushed out of their habitats against their will, so they just react instinctively. Humans can process the event, deemed it to be excessive and abusive to our senses and respond back appropriately requesting the initiator of the arbitrarily action to stop. In psychology this is considerate a normal behavior and course of action. Abnormal actions come from those that stand there passively and do not protest from having their spaces invade by an abusive policy.

    • 3 years ago
  • Wetdog
  • angie1234p
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Keep in mind that dogs have far greater hearing than we humans. In addition to what the human ear can hear, he can detect fainter sounds from greater distances and on much higher frequencies. The human ear has a frequency upper limit of about 20,000 cycles, while the dogs range can be as high as 50,000 cycles. Dogs are able to determine the direction a sound is coming from much more accurately than we can, and can differentiate between similar sounds better also. So a dog's sensitivity to sound is much, much greater than that of humans, and loud noises are far more painful to their ears than to human ears. :)

    • 3 years ago
  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
    • Vierotchka:

      My dogs can hear mice and voles runing beneath tall grass or snow. They routinely catch them by sound location alone. I know they are locating them by sound alone because they will follow them till they stop, then leap about 3' in the air and pounce down on them everytime. It is very rare that they make a pounce and don't come up with a catch.

      They can usually locate them from 10 to 15 ft. away.

    • 3 years ago

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