Dogs first tamed to be food
source: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/09/090904-dogs-tamed-china-food.html
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"In this region, even today, eating dog is a big cultural thing," noted study co-author Peter Savolainen, a biologist at the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden.
"And you can also see in the historical records as far back as you can go that eating dogs has been very common" in East Asia.
"Therefore, you have to think of the possibility that this was one of the reasons for domesticating dogs."
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krush_productions
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I'm completely guilty of eating dog. While I would never practice this custom in the US due to the availability of food. My family in the Philippines isn't so lucky.
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krush_productions
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MoonLoon
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krush_productions:
No problem, Krush! I ate a sea cumber while in Indonesia and it almost killed me! Many dishes are difficult to savor when you do not grow up eating them. I will mention a few: raw oysters, cow's tongue, roasted goat head ( eshewu), cow leg, oxtail soup, snails, cow brains with eggs, chitlins, sushi, pickled pigs feet, curdeled milk and cow's blood, cow skin soup, chicken feet soup, it is funny to watch the expression of various people when eating these dishes. Our foods define the diversity of human culture.
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MoonLoon
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ArmyJuggalo
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There's still dog farms in SO. Korea to this day.
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ArmyJuggalo
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chantial
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Different cultures different experiences. You can not seriously be upset by differences in cultures that do not have taco bell on every corner.
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chantial
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TheOuroborus
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The ancient Chinese domesticated dogs for eating? I don't believe it. That just doesn't make any sense. Say it ain't so.
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TheOuroborus
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maof4brats [removed]
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Even my Philippino friends don't eat dog,this is sickening. I don't even think if I were starving I wouldn't eat a dog.
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maof4brats [removed]
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MoonLoon
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maof4brats:
It tastes like chicken!
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MoonLoon
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Mike_Johnston
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If you want to be really honest about it then you have to figure that early man was a scavenger following wolf packs and foraging on their leavings. From that point said symbiotic relationship may have developed with humans becoming the dominant partner in the relationship after they had learned to make spears and such. Without those weapons humans couldn't have hunted ice age megafauna. Insects, reptiles, amphibians, rodents and insects were probably the mainstays in the human diet before dogs allowed them to hunt large animals as secondary partners. Much in the same way that hyenas or follow lions today...
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Mike_Johnston
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MoonLoon
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Mike_Johnston:
I agree , Mike, that what you suggest makes sense. breeding dogs for food is not a part of European culture. It could be a part of Asian cultural history, but I do not accept it as widespread cultural pattern among the European peoples.
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MoonLoon
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ahappymintleaf
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Hmm. I was taught that the dogs/wolves essentially domesticated themselves, as they entered symbiotic relationships with humans in which their superior sense of smell would locate live prey, humans would kill the prey, and then-wolves would receive the scraps of the bounty. I'm pretty sure large wolflike dogs like huskies have never been seen as food, but as they continued to become smaller and more feeble, eating dogs probably became a logical process. Similar to how large animals like cows were rarely seen as food because of the impracticality, even when they were original domesticated. Humans don't naturally have the capacity to digest such tough meat.
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MoonLoon
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ahappymintleaf:
"Happymint", it is fairly well accepted that dogs associated themselves with humans in a symbiotic relationship, as you suggest. They hunted together and shared the fruits of the hunt. True hunting/working dogs are marginally domesticated and the conclusions stated in this article strain credulity for anyone raised ouside of the Asian culture.
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MoonLoon
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Mike_Johnston
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Kinda weird to try to tame a predator for food when less dangerous animals such as sheep, goats, cattle and pigs are much easier to contain and aren't as well equipped to fight back.
A better scenario would be that wolves were tamed as hunting assistants and in lean times, when the hunt didn't go very well...sorry doggy, you lose.
Of course humans are still like that aren't they?
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Mike_Johnston
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MoonLoon
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Mike_Johnston:
Mike, I agree. It is highly unlikely that an invaluable hunting partner would be sacrificed, except under dire circumstances. I suspect that the researches have little practical experience with hunting dogs (hounds), Black and Tans, Walkers, Bloodhounds, Beagles, Lab, Chessies, Setter's, Beagles, and such. These hunting partners were likely too valuable to be eaten, except by the Chinese. They worshipped the Pekinese, God only knows why? Maybe Pekinese soup was on the menu?
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MoonLoon
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think_free
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Hahahaha
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think_free
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MoonLoon
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A region in Nigeria, Calabar, is known for two things, beautiful women and dog eating. It is an off menu item reffered to as 404. Named after the Peugeot 404 because the 404 can go fast and a dog can run fast. I am serious. There is some more humor involved ,but I will refrain from sharing. My Chinese statistics professor was disgusted when I spoke to him about eating, "squirrels", he said he prefered "puppy"! To each his own!
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MoonLoon
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Ish05
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I'm thinking of the day when starving nations resort to cannibalism. A dog gotta eat, right?
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fiveholecc
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Yummy
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fiveholecc
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mckcall
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Well , it could be kinda cool in a creepy sense, you buy a dog feed it for say 10- 12 years it dies and you eat it!!
Hey, it HAD a happy life, and you did keep it happy and fed, so why not eat it?
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mckcall
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CalPerr
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mckcall:
because I would be crying the whole time.
Didnt you ever see Charlotte's Web?
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CalPerr
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CalPerr
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BOOOOOOOOO
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CalPerr
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RojoGatto
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i like dogs
NEXT TO DA POTATOS AND GRAVY - 2 years ago
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RojoGatto
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Juas
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Chihuahua is tasty.
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Juas:
A little salsa, wrapped in a flour tortilla and still barking... Yum!
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Betico
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good thing most of humanity evolved to realize the invaluable importance of dogs to our survival. the use of dogs literally made it possible for much of the northern hemisphere to be populated by us.
dont believe me? look that shit up. dogs rock. they literally are man's best friend.
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Betico
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Betico:
After the asians started eating them, some of us used them for hunting, guarding, and small forms of manual labor and travel (sled dogs).
Also their just bad ass.
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Revelation_Machine
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CalPerr
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Betico:
One must be badass to earn a promotion from dinner to best friend
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MoonLoon
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Betico:
I suspect that the "working" or "hunting dogs' were only eaten as a last resort. However, some Native American tribes were known as "dog eaters". Some Europeans were forced to eat dogs and children when faced by a long seige. Starvation knows no mercy!
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MoonLoon
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bombastinator
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"speculates" is a good word.
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lolitanimatronic:
As for cuttlefish and turtles, generally because they are endangered.
cuttlefish are very primitive and have an extremely low reproductive rate that is heavily dependent on coral reefs which are disappearing. A cuttlefish lays eggs only once, and no more than a couple dozen.
As for turtles Europeans used to eat turtles all the time til lthey more or less fished them out of their areas. Rmember Lewis Carol's Mock turtle?
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lolitanimatronic:
Some people in the US do eat turtles, I've had it before.
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lolitanimatronic:
A Problem I've had with vegetarians is that plants are also ALIVE... sooo, why can't we eat animals?
Take it a step further, why can't we eat Human? Plenty of them around. I'm not saying go around eating whoever you want, but why not sign for it like giving your body to science or organ donations?
I Myself do not want to be buried in a coffin where I'll just rot, taking up space and never going back into the cycle.
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CalPerr
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lolitanimatronic:
Im not saying you cant but any place that sells human meat is not getting my business.
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MoonLoon
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lolitanimatronic:
"Calperr", I must assume that you are not a fan of ,"long pig"! The young are quite tender, but the old are stringy and tough, as I have been told.
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MoonLoon
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lolitanimatronic:
LOL, not many people know of "long pig" that i've met. If you eat pork, your pretty much eating Human. Their muscle and bone structures and composition is much like our own, which is why it's unhealthy to eat Pork, but people do anyways.
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lolitanimatronic:
"R.M", as a voracious reader from my youth, "long pig', is a familar term for lovers of South Pacific stories. However, as I now live in Nigeria, this term is not used. Cannibalism still exist's here, mostly for ritual purposes!
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MoonLoon
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Cochiese
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Nothing really surprises me anymore maybe if the story mentioned be compassionate towards all beings and it will end negativity, including fear then that's a story.
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SHAWN_RITTIMAN
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Dogs are sweet but......
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hunzedog
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thats why they call em chow chows
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hunzedog:
LMAO!
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hunzedog:
Hahahaha!
I have one, and in researching that breed, they actually were bred for their meat and fur and to guard against predators.
I bet they made damn fine coats.
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think_free
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MoonLoon
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hunzedog:
"Hunze", that was the funniest comment I have ever seen posted on current!
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MoonLoon
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idealist
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and all these years later there still doing it :)
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SparkShark16
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Those puppies are adorable... id never be able to eat something like that.
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SparkShark16:
... but you'd eat this...
Still cute, but here in the Western world, it's edible.
No animal should be slaughtered for food, regardless of where in the world they're considered pets or dishes.
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SparkShark16:
@iPedro
"No animal should be slaughtered for food"
...humm ok do you have any actual reason behind this because its sure not an argument about nature so i assume its from some kind of religious belief.
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SparkShark16:
EXACTLY what I was gonna say, iPedro.
And magic, you made no fucking sense. What the hell does that have to do with religion at all?
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SparkShark16:
@yesindeed
Then how could you possibly justify the statement that animals should not eat other animals? That is how life works there is nothing more natural than the food chain.
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SparkShark16:
Im not sure why I shouldn't eat a steak, please clarify
If not scientific knowledge, my assumption would be, a religuous belief is the base of the argument.
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CalPerr
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think_free
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SparkShark16:
There are plenty of reason not to eat meat.
We are physiologically more comparable to herbivores.
Examples:Carnivores-
-Have claws
-No skin pores, perspires through tongue
-Sharp front teeth for tearing, no flat molars for grinding
-Intestinal tract is 3 times body length so rapidly decaying meat can pass quickly
-Strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meatHerbivores and Humans-
-No claws
-Perspires though skin pores
-No sharp front teeth; has flat rear molars
-Intestinal tract 10-12 times body length
-Stomach acid is 20 times weaker than carnivoresAlso, humans prefer to eat their meat cooked, which destroys the natural enzymes in the meat that aid in a carnivore's digestion. The pancreas must therefore produce more digestive enzymes, gradually stressing the organ, weakening it, and inviting disease.
I could continue, but I don't want to sound preachy.
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think_free
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SparkShark16:
damn, scientific bitch slap.
But we do have incisors or "canine" teeth, I myself have a pair i'm proud of. And I believe we are omnivores, like bears. They have teeth and claws and probably perspire through their mouth, but they eat herbs too.
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Revelation_Machine
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SparkShark16:
Rev Machine got it right. We are OMNIVORES not carnivores or herbivores. That means our diets are meant to be a mix of plants and veggies. Do you think early man was supposed to eat only veggies? They didnt have access to the wide variety of veggies that are now available to people through globalization.
Also if you were to actually see my teeth you would understand that im naturally inclined to eating flesh(i have huge canines like a vampire and my teeth are serated including my molars which are extremely sharp and not flat).
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photi
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difficult to digest...
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photi
