Fox wins, Obama loses

noxiderius - sounds like you are talking about MSNBC, CNN and every other news station out there!

I think it's the other way around !

OlmecX, I hate to tell you this... but I'm actually not a republican, right-wing, whatever you want to call them, but I do have an opinion about the president sticking his hand in this kind of thing and ALSO your statement: "the simple fact that right wing/wrong wing have to reach out on websites like this hows they are getting very desperate to reel in niave people and fighting a losing battle"
I do believe that the majority of people commenting on this are not right wing and most agree with Obama so is it REALLY the right wing who are so disparate on these websites? I was stating an opinion.
And sorry if my elegant* statement confused you... the contradiction you pointed out is not a contradiction in the least. Saying that media should not be censored and then saying that you don't believe they report anything necessary, that's not a contradiction, it's two separate issues, which can be controlled by yourself not watching but if other people want to watch it, that's fine.
And since when is the word "media" patronizing??!

I think Obama won. More and more they are talking on other news shows about Fox Noise and its partnership with the repugs. We always had news that was pro one way or another but it was fair in its reporting, people like Cronkite, Huntley, Brinkley etc. Its sad no longer do we have news reporters but mouthpieces, on both sides and reporters more concerned with the color of Paris Hilton's panties than how many of our soldiers are being killed in Bush's illegal war. In the end I hope we the people win and get credible journalist who know the issues and are willing to put their opinions aside and report just the facts.

The administration is afraid of the questions being asked on fox news, this is why they wanna make sure the other networks don't start asking sensible questions.
Fox does have a telephone, the whitehouse can call at anytime to dispute anything... (sound of crickets).
Truth is they CANT answer. only use tactics to try and marginalize that bothersome fox.
Imagine a network asking questions about an administration -- how dare they!

fox news blows. only rednecked budweiser drinking morons watch that garbage. funny how family guy and the Simpsons are the best rated shows on fox networks though, i think most "republicans" just don't know that they could get behind democratic policy and still feel patriotic.

Nice piece.

And from a strategic political perspective, it was a big mistake for the White House to pick a fight with Fox News.

And also my opinion...Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman's names don't deserve to be grouped with fox news and the other propaganda stations.

If you are going to name people who are bought off..mention Chris Matthews or Bill Marr. Notice how most of the stations are subliminaly changing everything from Blue to Red...from the backgrounds, to their neckties, to coffe cups. Hmmm..what's that about?

REED ME...

Your eligant statement contradicts itself by saying media cannot be cencored yet the conglomerate Fox News doesn't report on anything that is a necessity to American people...such as local city jobs (when the fact is the population wants to know more than anything). That there is censorship buddy. (By the way, reporting on things that matter is called news). Do we really have to hear who got shot every night? hmmm..

The simple fact that the right wing/wrong wing (whatever) have to reach out on websites like this shows they are getting very desperate to reel in niave people & fighting a losing battle. The word play used by you (i mean media) only works with the mass who lost or never found their cognitive abilities. And for you and majority mass media who try to patronize people such as those on this website is laughable...

And just to get this straight with EVERYONE....

President Obama NEVER said fox news cannot do what they've been doing (which has been lying to americans). He just basically said FOX NEWS IS FULL OF SHIT.

(Ex. for REED ME)...If I didn't like to eat Karl's Sr. Burgers because they put hormones in their beef...I can go and eat in OUT&N becuase they don't. Karl's Sr. can stay open as long as they like to...I just don't eat there. And if someone asked me why I don't eat their I can tell them why I don't. Nature will eventually take its course. Also if wanted to throw a catered party with all natural burgers joints there it is ultimately my choice...some people (most people) are allergic to hormones that alter their food. Karl's Sr. cannot force me to support their food. Its that simple

Well first of all, you guys keep saying that people who watch FOX are uneducated and stupid and don't look up the fact for themselves. That is one of the most ignorant and weak comments that can be made in the left-wing defense.
Secondly, it is actually ILLEGAL for the government to deny FOX entry to any public meeting that is held at the white house if other news sources are allowed to be there. No matter what you think about FOX news, as Americans you should not let that right to freedom of the press be taken away. Of course FOX reports more right-wing stories, just like MSNBC and CNN report more left-wing stories. And sure FOX has opinion based shows, just like MSNBC and CNN have opinion based shows. But that is NOT to say they are not a news station, and the white house should be smarter than to do something like this.
The fact is that since FOX is the main station who challenges and criticizes Obama, he is going to try to shut them down. That is not how this system works, every president in history has been criticized and scorned by certain news stations of the opposite side, but the only one who tried to shut them down was Nixon, and we all see what happened to him.
As Americans, we have to right to watch, read or listen to whatever news station we want and the government should never try to interfere with that. This is a petty battle that the white house should have never started, in my opinion, it makes Obama look weak, like he can't handle the criticism. But the fact is that Obama's ratings have gone DOWN since he has been in office, and since FOX reveals that, they must be wrong?! No, sorry. I am a journalist myself, I watch FOX sometimes but mostly I get my news from the BBC or the most unbiased source I can find. But I take pride in the fact that my country actually has laws that protect the press like this and when Obama is trying to take that away, it's gone too far.
Let the press observe, challenge, and tell the people what is going on, that's their job. And just because a news station has differing opinions than you, it doesn't mean they are wrong and ANYONE who says that MSNBC or CNN are any better than FOX in reporting balanced news is ignorant beyond repair.

When Fox wins, EVERYBODY loses.

Fox, MSNBC, and to a certain extent CNN are all news obominations.
Americans needs to stop looking for political leaders in pundits.
Demand journalists give us the news with as little spin as possible and allow us to make our own educated opinions. Fox News, CNN, MSNBC(including Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Rachel Maddow, Lou Dobbs) think we are such morons that we will actually pay them to tell us what to think(Oh wait, we do).

Few too many people tell Fox News to go ahead and just fuck themselves. It's about time someone, who happens to be President Obama, told them that their chicken shit approach to subjectively skewering the news with anchors yanked from the halls of the Playboy mansion are just absolutely fucking unacceptable. Nice work Obama, keep telling Murdoch and his asshole pals to take a leap of the next available ledge and get into the tabloid business .. Oh shit, that's what they already are doing ..

Bush did much the same. He openely attacked the New York Times. I did not hear any Republicans talkijng abouit that.

Oh, I forgot. Its do as I say not as I do for them.

And Fox is not real news. I have watched the angry faced mean eyed fox reporters. Its more like a show or a bad drama.

The headline is misleading, the jury is still out. The headline simply telegraphs bias. At this point both sides can claim victory.

Yeah, FOX still sucks.

This story is total BS written by the right propaganda machine grasping to make the world believe they aren't marginalized. Some nobody reporter writes this crap, while the US President denounces Fox. Which one carries more weight?

Now wait a sec everyone...lets not disregard this blogger's opinion (i mean info); he may have a point. I mean, after all he must automaticaly relate to us since he is on this website....so obviously we all agree with wherever the hell he gets his crap (i mean factual info) like the rest of the herd who follows fox and most of mainstream media.

Thinking for myself too hard....and boring. I rather let the smart people like him do it for me; so I could watch some more TV.

Whoa, a Current featured article that doesn't gloss over the Leftwing's failures and attack the Right? I must be dreaming. Applause to you, poster.

I stopped watching Fox and CNN when I found Current. The journalist's here are out for the real story. There will always be a "Fox" and "MSNBC". We should stop arguing about them both and start going out to find the truth for ourselves. Americans need to stop reaching for the baby bottle while liying on their backs and get up to feed themselves. Thank you Current journalists!

Though I agree that fox news is nothing more than a right wing tabloid pretending to be news, I don’t believe that the White House is following the best strategy in trying to marginalize it. White House officials should challenge Fox news on their own turf. Stop letting Fox speak for Obama by having Obama speak for himself on Fox.

Although i think they are totally right about Fox news being a bullshit network,in hindsight, i don't think it was such a good idea for them to call them out on it. It does give them more Ammo, which would be fine if people didn't actually listen to the shit that Beck and o'Reilly say.
It's a good thing i'm not in charge of fixing this whole, thing,cuz i wouldn't know what to do.

Any one who has to tell you repeatedly that they are "fair and balanced" is clearly anything but.

And the fact that FOX NEWS lost $100 million per year for the first 5 years ($500 M AKA 1/2 BILLION dollars) should be enough to prove that FOX is NOT a business venture but a POLITICAL venture. Any one who denies this is either totally indoctrinated, or part of the deception.

FOX wins? Really? Obama says FOX is biased and the FOX punditry goes wild to prove him right... LOL!

I would have preferred a more veiled anti propaganda notice. I do like the idea of standing up for what is a lie and what is true. Statistics are the lie and speculation is the truth. Sometimes. I think even the very retarded need a program to watch and taking Beck et all away from them should be considered cruel and unjust punishment. Therefore, Faux should be continued as therapy for the less intelligent and more normally challenged.

I wouldn't wipe my ass with The Guardian, much less give credibility to what's printed in it.

Nice work

It is my opinion that the White House did right by calling out Fox for what it is. More people should do so, and they should provide evidence proving their point. There is a huge difference between Fox and MSNBC. Fox will happliy and knowingly mislead it's sheeply herd of morons using exaggerations/lies/propaganda. It works because their dumbass fans don't bother with fact-checking, so the result is, for example, you have a bunch of mindless sheep fighting against their own best interest when it comes to health reform, and instead standing firm with the health insurance industry because these fools are stupid enough to believe that Obama wants to kill their grandma... etc, etc, etc.

Fox News is nothing more than the media arm of the Republican party. The Republican party is nothing more than the political arm of corporate America. Fox's sole purpose is to keep people believing it is OK for the rich to take advantage of everyone else. Period.

MSNBC, on the other hand, is similar to Fox ONLY in that they express opinions, not only facts. However, if you do fact checking on what Olbermann/Maddow/Mathews/Shultz report, they come up clean. They are not misleading people. They do express liberal/progressive/Democratic opinions, but they are not fake news like Fox.

Fox is actively stealing stupid people's ability to effectively participate in our democracy. In my opinion, it is treasonous for them to pretend they are real news and then friggen lie to their stupid fans. This fact should be pointed out by as many people as possible to as many people as possible.

The nutjobs that watch Fox news are not going to be disueded by the president. These are the same people that think we never landed on the moon. Rational thought does not affect them, only emotional exploitation.

I do not feel like dissecting this whole article but I would like to convey a message to the author. If you are looking for a job at Fox just put in your application already.

This is a perfect example of an "editorial". This is one person's opinion. That doesn't make it news. And it certainly doesn't make it a "Fact". For example, I believe that Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer, playing on people's fears and bigotry to achieve ratings and make money. It's my opinion, but that doesn't neccessarily make it a "fact". It is also, my opinon that the Obama Administration made a mistake calling out Fox News on their bullshit info-tainment programming. I don't think they changed anyone's mind. The left will still watch Maddow and Olbermann and the Right will still watch O'Reilly and Beck.

I watch both. The most glaring difference is that Fox News selectively reports only the stories that fit into their "neo-liberal"/NeoCon world view. Fox only reports Anti-Obama, anti-democrat stories rife with opinionated punditry. And it is left to MSNBC to un-spin Fox's spin, while they similtainiously exercise real journalism skills. They report the news and refute Fox's propaganda with humor and good taste. If you will notice, Fox only refers to MSNBC in their dialogue. You never see clips of Oblermann or Maddow. Fox uses the straw man arguement to demonize them. But, on MSNBC, they use the clips of the Fox talking heads to make their points for them. In a nut shell, MSNBC proves what they say about Fox is true. Fox just wants you to trust what they say about MSNBC is true. They play on people's faith and they lie. Ironic, isn' it. It all comes down to whom you put your faith in and who you "want" to believe.

Obama's administration is showing signs of having some balls! Quick! Castrate him!

Good for Obama. Standing up for what is really news reporting instead of opinions.

"The White House's latest foray into media criticism has exposed it to criticism."

Um, does it matter? Fox has been on the attack since day one. The pussification of the Democratic party has been extremely painful for liberals throughout the decades. I for one am glad to see it ending.