What IS the Meaning of Life?
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Did God create us, or did we create him? And if he created us then who him?
What happens when we die, and what of reincarnation and heaven or hell? Or nirvana and the seven Chakras? What of multiple and parallel universes?
To answer these questions and more, because I'm a very curious guy, I have been working on a philosophy paper full of my idea's and really want to know what current.com has to think.
So please let me know what your thoughts are on this thesis, it's much appreciated.
The link is below
http://fishahouse.blogspot.com/2009/11/philosophy-of-fish-v1.html
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vinicius
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Unfortunately, I happen to know the meaning of life. Good thing I only remember what it is from time to time...
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vinicius
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J_Jammer [removed]
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Philosophy reminds me of this quote:
Oh what a tangle web we weave, when we practice to deceive.....ourselves. - 2 years ago
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sugarlilly
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also though, i think there is something to be said for mystery. take away mystery and i find little enjoyable. i can't say i want to know, 100% positively, what the meaning of life is yet...
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sugarlilly
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FishaHouse777
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sugarlilly:
I understand. Thank you, really
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FishaHouse777
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sugarlilly
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i've never spelled out my beliefs after falling away from hardcore christianity a few years back. if i weren't still so hurt about being lied to by them for 21 years, i know i would come to something similar. i realize i am allowing my "hurt" to keep me a bitter atheist at the moment. all of life is change and i agree with you that there is no other path than to attain wisdom.
i also hang with a lot of philosophy majors and this is incredibly more advanced than the average Pepperdine student. just saying.
conclusion?
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sugarlilly
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BoomChaka
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there is no such thing a a soul, a conciousness, or even life.
all we are is an extremely elegant self-sustaining and self-replicating chemical reaction. free will is an illusion. decisions are made based on the physical structure of your brain, and what electrical impulses and hormones happen to be floating around.in short, when you break it down, anything and everything comes down to the laws of physics
Also, people arent wearing enough hats.
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BoomChaka
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FishaHouse777
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BoomChaka:
You're brain is governed under quantum theory, which means it isn't just chemical reactions and hormones. You believe in what Richard Dawkins believes but maybe you should look up some stuff before you believe a man so easily.
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FishaHouse777
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BoomChaka:
ive never read anything about richard dawkins. I thought about that myself. but even if you throw in quanntum mechanics and the rest there is still an assumption that everything that happens happened for a very specific set a reasons. thus nothing is random and/or supernatural
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BoomChaka
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FishaHouse777
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BoomChaka:
Actually evolutionists say evolution is a set of "blind genetics", that we are evolving blindly so it is random. Also quantum theory has many anomalies in it, all very random. If anyone just tries to observe an electron, that is consciously trying to find its precise location, it will disappear and re-appear in a new location. Like magic, and it's completely random. There's more but I'm just stating that one because it's in the thesis I wrote.
My point being is if nothing was random or supernatural than we wouldn't have philosophy, philosophy was created to answer the unanswered questions and to give us light into the unknown, and since we are still pondering about all the above there is much room for the random and supernatural as answers. Don't discredit the unknown. - 2 years ago
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PajamaDan
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[ERRATIC THOUGHT TIME]
I can no longer believe in a "meaning of life". "Life" - this concept that's manifested from human curiosity,... doesn't have to have a specific purpose. Life exists whether we ponder it or not. And after personal spiritual investigation, scientific research and everyday conversations,... I've come to the conclusion that if I, personally, don't know life's meaning, it's safe to assume that nobody does. Existential answers are only THEORIES, and there's no shortage of them. But to adhere to only one theory, disregard or disbelieve other theories, and let your personal belief interfere with EVERYONE'S life is ill-fated and oft divisive. Personally,... I think either everyone is right, or everybody's wrong.So,... what's the meaning of life? Don't answer that - the answer is quite possibly moot.
Just express goodness, love if you wanna love, pray if you want to, ponder the imponderable, exhibit peace AND let not your credo impede the lives of others.(Man,... I probably come off as an oddball weirdo, huh?!)
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PajamaDan
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LotusPower
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The meaning, how and why is love and if one day you find wisdom, it will be that simple and that obvious. The rest is fluff and you're not welcome.
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LotusPower
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Nephwrack
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and we will come to find, that we are all one mind, imagine it all conceivable...
-Maynard James Keenan
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Nephwrack
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evilliberalbastard
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there is no meaning to life because the meaning to how you should live is under christ philosophy be kind to others as you would to yourself because he is yourself and this world we live in is inside a mans dream
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FishaHouse777
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evilliberalbastard:
I asked for the meaning of why we live, not the principles on how but thanks anyway
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LotusPower
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Love it. I am (and have been for a long time) an infinite multiverse kinda guy. I just don't see why you need to split out body/mind/soul in an infinite universe. Why not just consciousness? In the context of an infinite universe it is still infinite. As Bill Murray said in "Groundhog Day" (the best depiction of multiverses in cinematic history) "I am a god". We all are gods because our consciousness stretches to infinity in all the unseen universes and dimensions. In the Gospel of Thomas Jesus says "You are all children of God" and I think (but I'm not sure) that is what he meant. Trying to define consciousness into finite categories is just a reflection or our perceptions of the apparent limits of existence, also known as maya. Whad'ya say we agree that infinite is infinite and we don't understand it all? Let's just start from where we are and try to improve the universe by taking care of our fellow sentient beings and reducing their suffering. That is the heart of Buddhism. I'd write more but time is short and I'm missing Hannity.
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LotusPower
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pjacobs51
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I think I'll use some David Bowie lyrics to answer this, from a song called Quicksand.
I'm closer to the Golden Dawn
Immersed in Crowley's uniform
Of imagery
I'm living in a silent film
Portraying Himmler's sacred realm
Of dream reality
I'm frightened by the total goal
Drawing to the ragged hole
And I ain't got the power, anymore
No I ain't got the power anymoreI'm the twisted name on Garbo's eyes
Living proof of Churchill's lies
I'm destiny
I'm torn between the light and dark
Where others see their targets
Divine symmetry
Should I kiss the viper's fang
Or herald loud the death of Man
I'm sinking in the quicksand of my thought
And I ain't got the power anymoreI'm not a prophet or a stone age man
Just a mortal with the potential of a superman
I'm living on
I'm tethered to the logic of Homo Sapien
Can't take my eyes from the great salvation
Of bullshit faith
If I don't explain what you ought to know
You can tell me all about it
On the next Bardo
I'm sinking in the quicksand of my thought
And I ain't got the power anymoreDon't believe in yourself
Don't deceive with belief
Knowledge comes with death's release - 2 years ago
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pjacobs51
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FishaHouse777
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pjacobs51:
David Bowie was too far out there for even himself to comprehend....great song though from a great album.
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FishaHouse777
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kennymotown
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Those of us who can see do not speak of it, but since you asked you are already more aware than many souls that inhabit this dimension. Life is an illusion with a physical awareness that you are somewhere, I believe in every action there is a reaction according to physics and enlightened beings. Therefor your energy or spirit call it what you want goes somewhere. I like too think it's all about Karma and reincarnation where you go I do not know. You travel with souls you are currently connected with through unknown dimensions and your actions are like a tape recording and the seeds you plant be they good or evil you will reap in the next life.
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FishaHouse777
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kennymotown:
So do you beleive in an ultimate and final judgment? an end to the flow of souls, a nirvana or heaven so to speak.
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kennymotown:
Total enlightenment and the end of reincarnation if you finally get it right.
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metalcookiesxy70
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Since there is paranormal beings, which do exist(Is proven), much is unexplained of how the Bible was related to all of this...
Contacting one's spirit is beyond focus and concentration, no need to believe God, neither to have absolute faith...
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quanta
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We are, God , creating. And it's still in process. The basic ,smallest amount of energy is a quanta,or quanti, and we are all made of the Same energy, everything is. The whole universe, all universes, all levels of perception, all non local states all exist of this same energy, It is unending, limitless, infinite, indestructable and undefineable as it is in constant movement. The material world is what our conscious awareness is manifesting. But this is a very small part of what we are as a whole, and we are only consciously aware of this dimension, even as we exist now on other levels, many at the same time, without being aware of it. It is said , right now, that there is a shift in perception, that we are becoming more aware of the "other Levels", a spiritual awakening. A process I beleive that is that we as human being are becoming aware that we are more than just this body and that this body is a step in our evolution and whatever the next step might be is already in the process. I don't remember the dying or the being reborn, but do imagine the journey of the soul is the larger issue,yet to be accessable to us. And the chakras as energy points thru which specific energys acess this level of existance, throgh us and our health to help us complete our goals and enhance our spirits making us more loving and compassionate peoples. that's a lot to try to get out here. and alot of it probably sounds out there but I don.t care , it's pretty much the basics for me. Multiple and parallel universes, there there, and sometimes we are to, maybe more so with the shift in perception, and more.
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quanta
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quanta:
You just stated the basic principle of the M theory for quantum physics, whether you knew it or not. I actually agree with you to some extent but you seem to have a lot more life experience than me so I will have to ponder on what you said a lot more before I conclude if I believe in it or not.
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FishaHouse777
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quanta
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Have you seen on Youtube the What the Bleep series.
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quanta
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FishaHouse777
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lolitanimatronic:
None taken but could you please enlighten me with some of your thoughts than?
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FishaHouse777
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FishaHouse777
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lolitanimatronic:
None of what I stated was fact, it's all theory based on my life experiences. so I WANT to know what your theories and life experiences are but if you don't want to that's alright.
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FishaHouse777
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LotusPower
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lolitanimatronic:
Well Lolita, we can only see our little slice of existence and do our best with it. Existence is infinitely complex but truth is simple. Your initial comment was a little mean, but if you dig karaoke, you must be a wonderful person.
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LotusPower
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Progresshiv
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Have you read Eckhardt Tolle's book, A New Earth? It addresses the same ideas your treatise does in very similar ways. I think you are very perceptive about the different levels of energy and consciousness with which our physical selves constantly interact.
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Progresshiv
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Progresshiv:
No I haven't but I want to, is that a book i can find at amazon or barnes and nobles?
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FishaHouse777
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Progresshiv
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Progresshiv:
Oh yes, but I got it free at the local library, too.
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Progresshiv
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quanta
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Progresshiv:
Thankyou, a new book for me to read and I look forward to it.
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quanta
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FishaHouse777
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As of now I think the meaning of life is wisdom, to become as wise as possible.
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