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That's Gay: Johnny Weir

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The most controversial figure skater ever is a threat to the gayest sport ever. Because there's no crying in figure skating!

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  • whoboy0malabia
    • 0
      whoboy0malabia  
    • I think we should all support Johnny Weir. He needs me around him...like a "Sassy Gay Friend ", he would have a " Leave Johnny Alone Dyke" ! Recently he has even supported the disaster in Japan by co-designing a T-Shirt! You GO.

    • 10 months ago
  • leotardjesus
  • donkeyfly69
  • jubal
    • +2
      jubal  
    • I think Johnny Weir is perfect the way he is, and he is a great role model. Who the fuck is anyone to judge him for being sensitive and emotional. I would be that the hate is covering a huge jealousy.

    • 1 year ago
  • UrbanGypsy
    • +3
      UrbanGypsy  
    • Whats with all the hate against feminine gay guys? They act like that because they feel like it. If it makes them feel good and pretty to act like a girl then leave them be.

      Does it piss you off that they act feminine? Thats your problem, not theirs. I think that's called intolerance. Feminine gay guys get a lot of hate, not just from heterosexuals, but even from some homosexuals.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
    • +1
      jubal  
    • UrbanGypsy:

      This is the sad truth. However, when one person in the community is attacked, in spite of the discrimination between members of the community, everyone comes together to do something to make things better for all.

    • 1 year ago
  • cyanide7
    • 0
      cyanide7  
    • dude why the fuck are people making fun of him? i can rock and respect the way he is!! and yeah figure skating is pretty gay when has someone not said it was a masculine sport? why do you think they made Blades of Glory? he's like the real life far out definition of being gay in figure skating.

    • 1 year ago
  • my_name_is_hilary
    • 0
      my_name_is_hilary  
    • The olympics are gay! Who knew!?! hahahahahah
      haha oh yea his sexuality is private especially when he dances to lady gaga and dress like a flamboyant diva! hes flaming!

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
    • +3
      jubal  
    • I am a homo because I am attracted to masculine men, not because of their feminine qualities. I realize that there are those who are attracted to feminine men or cross dressers or transgendered men, but my thing is masculinity, that is what turns me on.

      I am also bi sexual because I am attracted to masculine lesbians who look like twenty something men. There have been a few that I just found absolutely delicious.

    • 1 year ago
  • animalia_libero
  • donkeyfly69
  • Maxlastic
  • randallr01
  • cpdy
    • +2
      cpdy  
    • I watched this video right after reading about homophobia, and I think I've figured out why the media and other male figure skaters love to hate on Johnny Weir so much: they're using him as a scapegoat to protect the "masculinity" of male figure skaters.
      One of the proposed theories about homophobic tendencies is that male heterosexuality and "machoness" is defined not just by attraction to women, but by rejection of desire for men and things related to it -- basically, homophobic men show the attitude that they do (belittling "feminine" qualities in men) to reaffirm their masculinity (thanks Stojko, for illustrating my point).
      I personally think that being gay/queer is JUST a sexual preference and nothing else, so I have a hard time believing that figure skating is a "gay" sport, but okay, for whatever reason. figure skating has been culturally painted as "so gay" and the like. Obviously some men have/had a keen interest and desire to pursue this sport, and DON'T think it's "gay", but ARE aware of its "gay" reputation. In order to become a successful male figure skater while simultaneously not being teased for "being really gay", they have 3 options:
      1) the quad! hurr hurr
      2) wearing big manly fake muscles while skating http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y28n0AzyEjw
      3) publicly belittling a "feminine", maybe/probably gay guy in their sport, in order to reaffirm their masculinity. Enter Johnny Weir.

    • 1 year ago
  • cisiecki
  • Elligirl
  • whollyfool
    • +1
      whollyfool  
    • Actually, I think all that looks pretty good on JW. (Ok, I don't think he could look bad if he tried; he's gorgeous, as Bryan points out.) I think Johnny wears the clothes and the image very naturally, much more so than I would, and I'm a woman. I'm happy that he finds joy in it, and I'm proud of him for taking a stand in the media against being defined by gender role expectations.

    • 1 year ago
  • jeanest
  • adnama8593
  • vascoac
  • smurph25
    • +1
      smurph25  
    • I can't wait to see you at the flower arranging competition anytime soon Bryan, but you're right, I don't think it is wise to make fun at competitors, and I'm glad you've highlighted this...

    • 1 year ago
  • awmagwawd
    • +1
      awmagwawd  
    • I think Johnny is too sensible to feel offended by the way people address him in the media. It's a shame he can't express himself the way he wants without losing the credit he deserves as a damn good athlete. Also, I absolutely love you Bryan, you are just adorable!

    • 1 year ago
  • jayd215
    • +2
      jayd215  
    • johnny is an amazing athlete and skater! he makes me proud. and bryan, as usual - right on with the commentary! thanks to you both for being bold and honest!

    • 1 year ago
  • Almibry
    • +1
      Almibry  
    • Poor Johnny Weir. I've seen him perform, and I thought that he was fantastic. His "flamboyance" actually worked for him in my opinion. He always has a powerful routine and is able to artfully convey a story in the process. A lot of the male performers don't have the same ability to use their bodies the way he does. He manages to have very smooth and graceful lines all through the performance so he's not just skating around, but dancing, and while it's sometimes difficult to look at his costumes without cracking up (soo sorry, I just couldn't help myself) he's undoubtedly one of the best out there, if not THE best.
      Aside from that, the sport is still gay. I mean, just watch it. It takes mad skill, and I'd do any of the straight guys (have you seen their bodies? Their costumes leave little to the imagination *fans self*) if I had half a chance, but it definitely has a smell of fruit about it.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • curtisreed
    • 0
      curtisreed  
    • Almibry:

      if it was a fashion review or drag competition, Weir might win hands down.

      sadly, he is not good enough to get on the podium. is he expressive? sure. entertaining? sure. but maybe he should try focusing less on his outfit and fabulous hair and more on his routine

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • sirpaulmcdarkney
  • aflaus
  • Johnll
  • nonononono
    • +2
      nonononono  
    • You know, football is pretty gay if you have a bunch of women playing it. Or (field) hockey. Or softball.

      But, of course, lesbians aren't gay. That would be ridiculous! Only white, middle-class men can be gay.

    • 1 year ago
  • UWAZell
    • +2
      UWAZell  
    • nonononono:

      How about wrestling. You have two blokes in skin tight uniforms, rolling around on the ground with their hands and arms in strange places, trying to pin each other. I mean really... way 'gayer' than figure skating.

      This was a hilarious piece and I'm glad I didn't ignore the video on the main page.

    • 1 year ago
  • curtisreed
    • 0
      curtisreed  
    • UWAZell:

      have you seen that mixed martial arts show on TV? I love watching those guys fight, but my wife ruins it for me by pointing out how gay it looks as they roll around with their faces in each others crotches,each trying to (as the announcer describes it) "force their way into a dominant position"....

      GAY! she says. And then she wants to flip the channel over to "what not to wear"

      I've almost given up on TV now.

    • 1 year ago
  • sirpaulmcdarkney
  • CreatioExNihil
  • toreyray
  • curtisreed
    • -4
      curtisreed  
    • toreyray:

      sit down with them over a what? putzin? what is that?

      "i always thought of me as the sparkling flamboyant person who wore a crown of roses." yep. That's you johnny!

    • 1 year ago
  • randallr01
  • randallr01
    • +2
      randallr01  
    • curtisreed:

      "There's a whole new generation of people that aren't defined by their sex, or their race, or who they like to sleep with." That's NOT you, curtisreed. Now go die off, please.

    • 1 year ago
  • ryan8566
  • ahappymintleaf
  • curtisreed
    • -4
      curtisreed  
    • randallr01:

      ah, did I hurt your thenthitive feewingth?

      talk about hater! but this is to be expected from gays. you guys all talk a bit talk but if someone laughs at a goofball like weir for being such a creampuff you want to riot.

    • 1 year ago
  • whollyfool
  • Catherine_Smith
    • +2
      Catherine_Smith  
    • I love the segment AND Johnny Weir. Skating is what it is. People should get off the masculinity and allow it to just be beautiful thing. Well said Bryan! Funny, truth in it, love it! The only thing wrong was where that announcer said "3 inch heels." Anyone can see those are 5" platforms. Duh! :)

    • 1 year ago
  • QuestionGeek
    • -4
      QuestionGeek  
    • I take offense to it being called the gayest sport ever. It's not wimpy stuff. Just because a sport displays style and grace, doesn't make it gay.

      And they have their nerve. Current is the gayest network ever, run by gays, in the gayest state ever (California)

    • 1 year ago
  • vampicorn
  • curtisreed
    • -3
      curtisreed  
    • QuestionGeek:

      can you name a sport that is gayer?

      I mean, for crying out loud, just listen to your response. "just because a sport displays style and grace" and really fabulous costumes and men with superb asses, does NOT mean it's gay.

      you know, I really don't care if a guy is gay, but I don't like the queeny femboy act.

    • 1 year ago
  • junsumoney
    • +3
      junsumoney  
    • curtisreed:

      Figure skating isn't gay. Those athletes have to do a lot of hard work and exercise, and they're skating on a butcher knife. They practice those jumps a lot.
      Weir, he's just flamboyant and athletic and happened to like figure skating. There are flamboyant athletic people in other sports too.

    • 1 year ago
  • randallr01
  • curtisreed
  • parisinla
    • 0
      parisinla  
    • QuestionGeek:

      I think you missed the point. Safi is trying to point out that the media is trying to make Weir look out of place in a sport that he exemplifies--just for being "gay" (altho he never officialy came out of the closet).

    • 1 year ago
  • comfy
    • +3
      comfy  
    • Great video using humor to showcase the idea that heterosexual is normal and that is how society should "be". Shows that the world is still very homophobic, using words such as flamboyant as a bad thing and masculine and strong as appropriate. It's figure skating, and just like any other sport, you can have anybody be an athlete in that sport.

    • 1 year ago
  • curtisreed
    • -5
      curtisreed  
    • comfy:

      hey...pssst! heterosexual IS normal!

      if it wasn't, this whole experimental thing called "sexual reproduction" would have failed, unless all species had been made hermaphrodites.

      just shows you how skewed your gay perspective has become.

    • 1 year ago
  • comfy
    • +3
      comfy  
    • curtisreed:

      It was normal. That is a fact. Being quote unquote "normal" just means you are a part of the majority that society believes is acceptable and appropriate. Being white once used to be "normal". And my gay perspective seems to be a lot more open than yours. I accept who I am and what other people can be. I'm sorry that you don't feel that way. Being gay is normal in a 'im no different than you sense'. The gay community is just a minority that the majority wants to give no rights to. If I can't be normal because I'm gay then I'm glad to be different.

    • 1 year ago
  • randallr01
  • Almibry
    • +2
      Almibry  
    • comfy:

      I don't believe that this segment was intended to be homophobic, they pick on gays and people picking on gays in almost equal measure (I wasn't counting insults, though I might in a few minutes if I get bored enough). It may actually work to desensitize homophobes in the long run because it's harder to be afraid of something if you can laugh at it. And FYI, there are certain societies that recognize five genders, so normal is a matter of opinion.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • curtisreed
    • -2
      curtisreed  
    • comfy:

      the straight community is not trying to keep you gays from having rights, that's more queer propaganda.

      what we do want is to keep you from trying to go into elementary schools and entice school boys to experiment with playing with their friend's dicks. you keep your tiny queer minority out of the schools and leave the kids alone so they find their own way.

      how you define being gay as "normal" is absurd. the entire biological history of our specie is predicated upon sexual reproduction passing on genes and making the species stronger, fitter, more adaptable. Homosexuality is about as normal as any other genetic error that somehow finds its way through. It leaves gays struggling to figure out ways that gays could have helped society.

      you know, the old "while the real men left the cave to hunt bison, aunt Johnny stayed back care for the little ones." and THAT's how homosexuals have contributed to the survival of the species.

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
    • 0
      donkeyfly69  
    • curtisreed:

      "what we do want is to keep you from trying to go into elementary schools and entice school boys to experiment with playing with their friend's dicks"

      ...i honestly have no idea how to respond to that. you are seriously one creepy dude...

    • 1 year ago
  • feefer2010
    • +2
      feefer2010  
    • Has male figure skating ever been masculine sport? Personally I love Johnny Weir, he's not a three time medal winner because he lacks talent

    • 1 year ago
  • curtisreed
    • -3
      curtisreed  
    • feefer2010:

      no one said he didn't.

      in fact...I don't recall anyone ever having said that being queer had anything to do with talent. some of the best artists, musicians, writers, and yes, even athletes have been gay.

      but that doesn't change anything. Johny qWeir just outdoes himself and then wonders why some people roll their eyes.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
    • 0
      remanns  
    • curtisreed:

      .......and he IS in a "sport". The man is NOT a declared "performance artist". He could be. Seriously. The ONLY REASON "Sport" is EVEN REMOTELY interesting,....is because of "combative Alpha-Pack dominance" jockeying. Don't get me wrong; the whole concept tends toward the "lame". But I DO like "How bout Them Cowboys"!?!

      "Fashion" is,...well,..."a CIVILIZED SOCIAL DISPLAY",....."SPORT" is COMBAT by metaphoric proxy.

      Hey,........want to argue,..............watch the South Koreans counting medals.

    • 1 year ago
  • Almibry
  • smartbunny
  • curtisreed
    • -9
      curtisreed  
    • I have to agree. Male figure skating has become GAY.

      Gay as in dominated: by flamboyant homosexuals who use it as a place to showcase their sexuality and make semi-political statements, and gay as in 'just to damn goofy to watch'.

      I don't HATE them, but it's just---too damn gay to enjoy watching. It ranks up there with Shear Genius and Groomer Has It.

      BTW, how is hockey considered even slightly gayer than football? there are fights in hockey, men missing teeth, I don't get it. Guys pat each other on the ass in football. The quarterback receives the ball out of the center's ass. The boys all gather into a cute little huddle and have a quick chat. None of that happens in Hockey.

      Is there some gay guy out there who can explain how hockey is gayer than football?

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
    • +1
      remanns  
    • curtisreed:

      You have a point about Hockey,....that shit is very very close to gladiatorial.
      ( Not that a gay Spartacus cant kick nuts and break faces ,....and, well, there may be something wrong with that, but a skill set is a skill set, and a talent is a talent! )
      A "Gay" Sparta had NO PROBLEM being "socially empowered" and comfortable with its "gender identity",.... BUT IT DIDNT WEAR SEQUINS AND FAUX FUR IN HIGHLIGHTER COLOR SCHEMES. Its not the ice,.....not the dancing,...not the "sport",....the FASHION SENSE is questionable!

    • 1 year ago
  • unimatrix0
  • remanns
  • ryan8566
  • Almibry
  • Almibry
    • 0
      Almibry  
    • unimatrix0:

      Skates aren't gay, silly. They're big ass knifes on the bottom of ankle boot, it's not at all like anything your typical "queen" would wear. Did you put any thought at all into that statement?

    • 1 year ago
  • curtisreed
    • -1
      curtisreed  
    • Almibry:

      figure skates are not sharp blades. the skates used by short track are sharp as hell, hockey skates kind of in between.
      but that whole argument you make doesn't hold water. scissors are sharp, but does anyone think dog groomers are macho?

      puhleeeeeease.

    • 1 year ago
  • curtisreed
    • -1
      curtisreed  
    • ryan8566:

      if that were true, then let's see which should be more embarrassing:
      1) straight men who might be missing a tooth they got knocked out playig hockey
      or
      2) bent men waltzing around in 5 inch pumps, pink lace, and lipstick.

      I'd rather be seen in the company of the hockey players. you gals can meet up for scones and knitting lessons

    • 1 year ago
  • curtisreed
  • manny0409
  • lifestudentno83
    • +2
      lifestudentno83  
    • Since when is figure skating a masculine sport?
      And since when do we care about gay men participating in figure skating?

      And where is Basketball on the Sports Sexuality Spectrum? I'm guessing somewhere between Hockey and Tennis, but I'm not sure...

    • 1 year ago
  • Nettle
  • remanns
  • remanns
    • -3
      remanns  
    • ( I think this landed in the wrong section of "personal" )
      +1 kylewu54
      Hi there, do you guys like dating cougars? Are you a cougar who's looking for a cub? Are you looking for a NSA or serious relationship? You can get what you want here:
      =====- http://www.cougarster.com -=====
      It's where cougars and younger men can meet.

      ,...........I just don't think the "cougars" crowd is the target audience.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
    • 0
      remanns  
    • remanns:

      WOW! How " -Vd " (voted down) can you get! I know its not that funny with the original post removed,...to be clear,....I did not put the "cougars" thing here

      but still! Is anyone of the opinion I am being,...what,....disrespectful to the cougars,....or that gay males are just lining up to hook up with them ???

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • Almibry
  • remanns
  • remanns
  • atainder
  • DinoRay
    • +3
      DinoRay  
    • I know when I watch men's figure skating, I immediately think about strength, power and masculinity....and a short program to a Lady Gaga medley.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • ahappymintleaf
    • +4
      ahappymintleaf  
    • "You're faggy!" made me laugh a little too hard.
      Ohhhh man. This is so wonderful. Institutionalized homophobia at it's finest. Honestly he makes me a bit uncomfortable, but respect should be given where it's due. He wouldn't be on the team if he didn't have merit. This is the most blatant call for heteronormativity in sports I've ever seen, though. I respect Johnny Weir for not conforming in the slightest. I wish I had the confidence.

    • 1 year ago
  • curtisreed
    • -3
      curtisreed  
    • ahappymintleaf:

      what I don't understand is why, if a guy is gay, he feels the need to act like a girl. I think it's just an act to get attention. I know WAY too many gay guys who act like guys, not little prissy girls. I've also known, and heard of, guys who acted "normal" until they "came out fo the closet" and suddenly they got queeny.

      No insult intended, but is there an explanation for this?

      if you happen to be gay, but you don't act like that, why would you say "I wish I had the confidence" to...what? Act like something you probably are NOT?

      What's wrong with being gay and masculine?

    • 1 year ago
  • comfy
    • +4
      comfy  
    • curtisreed:

      Probably what he meant is that he wished he had the confidence to withstand the pressures of media and society and act as himself. Being gay is normal whether you are fem or masc or androgynous or anywhere in between.

    • 1 year ago
  • William_Spencer
    • +1
      William_Spencer  
    • curtisreed:

      Thank You!

      There's a difference between:

      - being male and liking other males

      - being a male who thinks he has to put out like a woman (and note that even women don't act the way these guys do). Just to let everyone know where he stands in society.

      It's the exact same thing as the Goth/Emo kids at the mall making that immediate "one glance and you know" statement with their outside appearance (chains, heavy makeup, etc).

      I don't walk around with an "I love boobs" shirt to constantly let people know my sexual preference. But maybe that's just because I'm comfortable with keeping sexuality in it's place when I'm around others.

      You can be gay and tasteful. And I respect those who are. It also gives off an air of maturity.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
  • unimatrix0
  • donkeyfly69
    • +7
      donkeyfly69  
    • William_Spencer:

      the sexism and homophobia in some of these comments is ridiculous

      "gay guys who act like guys, not little prissy girls"
      "they "came out [of] the closet" and suddenly they got queeny"
      "being a male who thinks he has to put out like a woman"
      "You can be gay and tasteful"
      "gay as in 'just to damn goofy to watch'"

      you guys are putting the feminine in such a negative light. i can see why certain people are in the closet. especially if them acting like themselves gets them demeaning coverage and comments like this. why is it so hard to believe that these guys are just feminine? why do you think they are doing it for attention when the attention they get is like this? would it be the same if it was a woman? how many masculine women are there in the sports world? track? hockey? basketball? both of my grandmothers have a strength that rivals most men, are they doing it for attention?

    • 1 year ago
  • curtisreed
    • -2
      curtisreed  
    • unimatrix0:

      yeah, man you're right. I don't hate Weir or any of the others, don't get me wrong. I just kind of shake my head and think that that kind of behavior is an "in your face" act. Like Adam Lambert's act at the AMA, you know whether it's Madonna or Lambert, straight, gay, whatever, you know there's a time and a place for being classy, a time for being raunchy, and I just don't think anyone needs to make an in-your-face statement everywhere they go.

      how obnoxious would it be for a black person to go and make race comments to every white person they saw? Or, vice versa?

      maybe that's not the best example, but showcasing flamboyant homosexuality is NOT a "normal" way of walking, talking, etc. No one "normal" floats around wearing 5" pumps and furs and all that stuff. He's doing it as a show, the Lady Gaga reference is accurate in that sense.

    • 1 year ago
  • curtisreed
    • -3
      curtisreed  
    • donkeyfly69:

      donkeyfly69, you ask great questions.
      First of all, feminine is AWESOME. In women. Personally, I don't like it in men.

      That's just what I think.
      Men are men, and men can even like men, but when men start acting feminine when they didn't do it before...that's a bit suspicious.
      I've known guys who were gay who were never 'feminine'. Then they finally decided to come out and suddenly voila. Limp wrists, swinging hips, gay-style clothes, the whole shibang. I've known others that NEVER felt the need to hide their sexuality, but weren't putting on a show either. They aren't ashamed of who they are. Their sexuality is just none of your damn business.

      And you know, there have been guys who I could have sworn were gay because they just seemed so effeminate, but were apparently married and straight. So yeah, there's a wide variety of ways to behave.

      I just tend to respect those guys that don't make a show out of being "queeny" a lot more. It's like they are confident enough they don't have to over compensate and make a show.

    • 1 year ago
  • randallr01
    • +4
      randallr01  
    • curtisreed:

      I'm gay and do not act like a girl. Why do you care, though? People should be able to act the way they want.

      I think that a person should BE who he/she IS. This means I don't see the point of someone "acting" any certain way, other than what comes natural TO THAT PERSON.

      Live and let live.

    • 1 year ago
  • randallr01
  • cakemonster
    • +2
      cakemonster  
    • curtisreed:

      Using "girl" as an insult is pretty CLASSY (emphasis on the sarcasm)! I am intrigued by your explanations about coming out in the gay community and how personality can change. Please share how you came upon this insider information which led to this hypothesis. Down low?

    • 1 year ago
  • donkeyfly69
    • 0
      donkeyfly69  
    • curtisreed:

      so (to you) feminine mannerism = gay? but then you know of straight men who were effeminate. are THEY flaunting their sexuality?

      "I've known guys who were gay who were never 'feminine'. Then they finally decided to come out and suddenly voila"

      do you think that maybe, just maybe this had something to do with the fact that they were in the closet? if they weren't comfortable telling people they were gay (being themselves) maybe they weren't comfortable letting people see them act feminine (being themselves)?

    • 1 year ago
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