Mexico City Emos

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Recently, Mexico City has been the site of a countercultural clash, where young, middle-class "Emos" have been under attack in a bizarre string of hate crimes. In the is pod, VC2 producer Ioan Grillo looks explores the issue from the perspective of several young emos.
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  • airinmagoc
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      airinmagoc  
    • and now i feel like there is so much emo pride becouse of these attacks. its cool to be part of a stereotype or group that is being lynched in the streets so that the supporters of that fad or style can stand up for themselves and be noticed. i guess its just a little irritating to me that these kids smile when they explain their story about being held at gunpoint

    • 2 years ago
  • cattheawesome
  • MichelleSun
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      MichelleSun  
    • I find it funny that the 'punks' in this pod didn't accept the 'emo' subculture because they didn't see it as a normal way of life; since when did the punk culture pride itself on being mainstream or conforming to society's definition of 'normal'? New-Age Punk: Regulating Normalcy? I think not, haha.

    • 3 years ago
  • eta
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      eta  
    • this is what cultivates when you have a very specific generational space that is entirely and solely exposed to a saturated hyper postmodernity and capitalism where characteristics like self-loathing, having issues and hedonism have been commercialized and commodified. this is really a generation of kids that are in reality, should be a very happy generation, but due to many cultural factors that hypercapitalism has outbranched, are yearning for a sort of identity and something to rebel from in the form of a glorification of depression.
      the thing about my generation is that we were at that nexus right before america transitioned into hypercapitalism. we got an "authentic" dose of po-mo in all its fledgling, unperfected ugliness and awkwardness. we lived just a little of that american life before the complete corporate takeover of the suburbs. But this generation...all they know is the fully-realized aesthetics of capitalism.

    • 3 years ago
  • fr3dlight
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      fr3dlight  
    • Attention is what they need, they're kids.

      Yeah, they'll grow out of it, as we did when we gave up our label.
      Mine was "skater",now it's "daddy".

      As for the 40 year old punks? They still need attention.
      They need to feed off your energy,still.

      The punks in the pod are losing the attention to the emos, and it seems their novelty has worn off.

      People used to avoid the punks, now they stumble over them because they were staring at the emos.

      But hey, that's life.

    • 3 years ago
  • Ajojo
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      Ajojo  
    • hating someone because of their appearance or lifestyle just goes against the MLK ideology, we as humans are idiots!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • spiral
  • Remember_My_Name
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      Remember_My_Name  
    • This pod just made me laugh…

      And I can understand why so many people hate emo kids..
      For one thing they steal a bit from every sub culture…
      And people don’t like that.

      And I believe that “self expression” in the emo culture is a wrong way to explain it.
      I mean,
      How can anyone be expressing themselves when their mimicking other’s style?
      They just seem like a bunch of posers to me.

      Sure... maybe they shouldn’t get beaten up for it,
      but they should realize how ridiculous they look.

    • 3 years ago
  • TKerger96
  • captplanet
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      captplanet  
    • this reminds me of a really great book written by the famed mexican author Roberto Belano called savage detectives. Its about the underground poetry movement of mexico city in the 1970s and it gives a great illustration of the struggles of teenage life

    • 3 years ago
  • jimmy_jarz
  • mega_intense
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      mega_intense  
    • ive never in my life heard the term "fleka"
      but now when i go to mexico ill be down with the lingo
      :] sadly all of my friends out there converted to emoism i hope they didnt get their junk punched.

    • 3 years ago
  • timunuhe
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      timunuhe  
    • I don't like emos either, but no one should beat emos up because they're emo. It's not like being emo destroys the sanctity of marriage.

    • 3 years ago
  • SAMMY_797
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      SAMMY_797  
    • i think its wrong to physically or verbally attack another individual do to some vapid thing such as clothing or to what type of music they listen to .but i do find it disturbing that every one is dressed the same -it is really true that the only way individual is to think for yourself.

    • 3 years ago
  • thesisson
  • iokua_2003
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      iokua_2003  
    • I really think Emo people are stupid, that is just my opinion only because, I went through the same thing and I didn't put on tight jeans and cut my hair different and put on make-up.. But if you decide to do that.. great.. more power to ya... I would just roll my eyes if I saw an emo kid.. but I would never call them names and beat em up... what would that prove? I think it would just make em more..... Emo... right?

    • 3 years ago
  • Alfredo3943
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      Alfredo3943  
    • I hate to admit it but I don't really like emos myself. Especially the kids out in mexico. I've made a couple of trips over to D.F (Mexico City) and the kids there are just searching for a scene to join to look "cool". On the contrary, because they're following a scene that is based on looking unique and weird, when the kid next to you looks the same.
      Nevertheless, no one has the right to harass, hurt, or oppress them. For they are still human beings just . . . with differences. ^____^

    • 3 years ago
  • redQuote
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      redQuote  
    • attacking someone for who they are is pathetic, but if all the goths and punks in Mexico know of emos as those poser emos, then i can understand why they hate them (for calling themselves emo when they’re only dressing it and aren’t actually IT), but i don’t think its like that as much in the US; emos here become emo to be who they ARE and not just to be part of a crowd

    • 3 years ago
  • tillytill99
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      tillytill99  
    • Sometimes you gotta fight for your right to look and dress like an idiot. This is why Mexico sucks a little. This is a early 90's grudge movement. When these kids look back on this, after moving away from Mexico, I'm sure they will laugh at how ridiculous they looked. No drugs were used when deciding to be called a emo. wow.

    • 3 years ago
  • sean_tURtLE
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      sean_tURtLE  
    • More proof that we as humans are really good at hating others for small differences. If we spent the same energy bettering ourselves or our world that we did spreading negativity, we wouldn't have as many problems.

    • 3 years ago
  • FallenMorgan
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      FallenMorgan  
    • I'm "emo." It's counterculture. Many hippies didn't stop being hippies. There's no real reason that emo types would suddenly follow the main culture. There are many "emo" or "goth" people who are members of society.

    • 3 years ago
  • saved62108
  • TheNome
  • ashgallagher
  • phukna
  • Remember_My_Name
  • johnpap
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      johnpap  
    • This video is missing the point. the attacks on emos has nothing to do with the kids being "emo". however, it has everything to do with the association of being emo to being homosexual. that's why the attacks happened. that is where the intolerance lies.

    • 3 years ago
  • frankyk
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      frankyk  
    • oh for sure! This is just the "newest thing", a trend, that isn't going to last very long. Should people get hurt by dressing a certain way, I don't think so. My little sister kinda got obsessed with this emo culture and boy did she become really annoying but I know she won't be like that forever, I hope. Oh another thing, if you're tired of getting beat up by bullys, try changing up a bit, after all its not going to land you a job, having pink hair and twenty piercings over your face. Good Luck!

    • 3 years ago
  • Kooberz
  • donkeyfly69
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      donkeyfly69  
    • it seems like most of the posters don't know many emo kids

      they are members of society. the go to school and have jobs like normal teenage kids. they aren't really depressed at all. they're just like goth kids were in the 90's. they write poetry and listen to crappy music but that doesn't make them some weird subculture. some people cheer and listen to britney (or the modern equivalent) does that make them any more detrimental to society?

    • 3 years ago
  • damnneargenius
  • RIVA_C
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      RIVA_C  
    • its only a phase..

      when the turn 18 or 19 they will realise its not who they are or what they want to be and teh will become usfull members of society

    • 3 years ago
  • NickerBocker09
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      NickerBocker09  
    • RIVA_C:

      say that to the 40 year old punks.

      People can live any way they want, you dont have to agree with it, but thats how a world society works. Different cultures and different ways of life, violence is not the answer.

    • 3 years ago
  • monkiijuice
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      monkiijuice  
    • just last week a friend showed me a video on her cell phone of an attack on an "emo" girl. At the end the girl died. I believe this is cruel and inhumane. Who would attack someone for being in a different "social class". It's ridiculous!

    • 3 years ago
  • Cuddlebones
  • tasidude
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      tasidude  
    • i think people in mexico dont like the ways of the emo because they think it's a trashy part of american culture they want nothing to do with.

    • 3 years ago
  • federicoharo
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      federicoharo  
    • This is the first thing that I've ever seen that FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION in terms of style creates such a negative emotion, especially when these kids are not doing anything else other than being stylish in their own way. Whomever has the balls to at least have any sense of style is a very good thing, I believe. Thats what self expression is all about.

      FREEDOM OF STYLE IS A GOOD THING!!

    • 3 years ago
  • alexnaftelberg
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      alexnaftelberg  
    • I live actually in mexico city, and during this 6 months i have only seen 3 emo kids maybe, so i dont care about them.
      Mexico city is so big and is very easy to find all kind of cultures but not "emos".
      Ok
      And about the audio in the video it is 1 second delayed but is ok

    • 3 years ago
  • jacijacijaci
  • T_Rose
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      T_Rose  
    • hehe you'd think that since the american emos all dye their hair black, the mexican emos would dye their hair blonde or something :D:D:D

    • 3 years ago
  • SpookyFish
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      SpookyFish  
    • It's really kind of funny how, in the US, emo is more like a subculture/fashion/music thing, but in Mexico, they take it so seriously that it becomes kind of like a gang.

    • 3 years ago
  • TyMarshal
  • kewal91
  • kewal91
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      kewal91  
    • TyMarshal:

      americans arent known for focusing on the big issues either.... we have the war.. the poverty.. the welfare system.. and we'd rather care about britney's fat ass or paris hilton's new sex tape or maybe the superbowl

    • 3 years ago
  • kewal91
  • jakes_green
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      jakes_green  
    • as much as i dislike the whole "emo" look, and attitude. its never neccesary to get violent. its just a phase that a bunch of young, confused teens are going through. half of them are probly gona end up regreting looking and acting that way, but hey, thats life.

    • 3 years ago
  • beaney
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      beaney  
    • Regardless of how ridiculous they look (although I'm ashamed to say I strove to look like that in high school), I have to give them credit for actually coming together to speak out like that. Everyone deserves freedom of expression, and a person's lifestyle should be nobody's business but his or her own, as long as it's not hurting anyone else.

      Adults and non-emos can criticize all they want, but at least those kids believe in something and are taking an active stance on it.

    • 3 years ago
  • jade_azul16
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      jade_azul16  
    • not that it makes it any better( it might actually be worse), but emos aren't beaten up because of their hair, their clothes nor the music they listen to (that just helps identify em, lol)

      they are beaten up because of their world view, pessimistic and depressing

      a huge contrast with the rest of the country

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
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      donkeyfly69  
    • jade_azul16:

      pessimistic and depressing?

      did you see those kids? for the most part they were happy and smiling. the only thing that's depressing is their music and their myspace pages. all the emo kids i knew in high school were completely happy about life. they had really bad hair but were happy nonetheless.

    • 3 years ago
  • parisinla
  • Mirza
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      Mirza  
    • parisinla:

      "and i cried completely ironically throughout the whole ceremony..hahahahahahaha...i was eating these little coconut shrimp things...which were pretty good whatever..ahahahahahahahaha"that was hilarious!

    • 3 years ago
  • Liberal_Extinction
  • arghENMY
  • foshibby
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      foshibby  
    • I find it fascinating how much people care about the actions and behaviors of others. Why not just let those emo kids be depressed? Why does it bother you? I'd understand if they directly impacted your life in some negative way, but I don't see how it could be their fashion sense alone that sparks such anger and protest.

      Coexist.

      I hate to say it, but I laughed out loud at some parts in this pod. Especially when the men held up the babies in the end. It's absurd!

    • 3 years ago
  • resastra
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      resastra  
    • i think all the hate is homophobia rather than being angry over kids shopping at hot topic and listening to my chemical romance

    • 3 years ago
  • PatrioticAstronaut
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      PatrioticAstronaut  
    • The world is full of such utter ignorance. The despair I see, pessimistically, prevents me from accepting reality. Rebel fads protesting conformity, only strengthening its cause; through the destruction of individuality. In the current global shortage of individuals. I find myself cynical, hysterical, and unbearable, but also incapable of explaining the inescapable. I write this to the last few independent thinkers, the makers, and the takers. I wish not to influence your opinion, but only to broaden your horizon.

    • 3 years ago
  • malathion
  • junsumoney
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      junsumoney  
    • I like emos even though I'm not one because they are rebels. Whatever happened to hippies who would see injustice and take action? These emos might be this generation's answer.
      Kinda crazy what happened in Mexico City. I read the news 3 months ago, and this documentary really gave a detailed story.

    • 3 years ago
  • StonedNailpolish
  • Xion
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      Xion  
    • I visit family in Mexico City ever summer, and I suppose an ex "emo" kid. The thing is that in Mexico, masculinity is the norm. My uncles are the norm; mustaches, big, burly arms, beer all over the place, and an overall typical male attitude. So seeing an "emo" kid doesn't make sense to a lot of the cultture.
      Of course, it's the teenagers who attack the other teenagers. I never got jumped, and I hope not to seeing as my hair has that slanted look a bit. Besides that, I hope I don't fit that stereotype. But hey, each to his own.

      I do see this as a bit of a class issue too. All the kids who wore tight jeans and black band shirts that I encountered had a lot more money than say, my cousins.

      So yeah, I guess I put a little insight from a Mexican-American ex-emo, if you could have even called me that.

    • 3 years ago
  • Liberal_Extinction
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      Liberal_Extinction  
    • LOL, emos... Dumbasses going out of their way to look like douchebags are begging for attention, some of it's may be good, some of it may be bad. Don't want to be a spectacle then stop trying to make one out of yourself.

    • 3 years ago
  • DELAMOTA
  • spoonieday
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      spoonieday  
    • maybe if everyone was nicer to each other people wouldn't have to split into groups to feel like they belong, but instead people are way too interested in judging each other as a bolster for their lack of self esteem. if bullies weren't so pathetically lacking in self worth they wouldn't need to put other people down to feel good.

    • 3 years ago
  • Wessagusset_Oracle
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      Wessagusset_Oracle  
    • Typical false dichotomy. Emos vs. Punks. Emo is the worse Identity Group ever! Then again, kids are easily programmed, they just run with it, give them a better alternative, be surfer, skateboarder, raver, artsy, whatever, but not lame and sad emo.

    • 3 years ago
  • batsandsuch
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      batsandsuch  
    • those of you who commented on why don't they give up and not cut there hair and just mold back to normal.
      forgot what being alive is.
      is someone is going to kill me if i cut my hair.
      i will die before i let them
      scare me into submission

      if the mexican punks and skin heads have find a purpose
      in fighting a 70 pound girl 3 to one

      then im shure the emo's can find there own way of fighting back with nobility...

      its like the mods and punks of the 70's

    • 3 years ago
  • Kiri
  • frankyk
  • SuperLayne
  • T_Rose
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      T_Rose  
    • I'm sorry why would you purposely cut you hair to look stupid...WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL KILL YOU FOR IT? It's one thing in the US where people will just laugh at you and keep walking.

    • 3 years ago
  • ekphrastic
  • Soap
  • bishopobispo
  • jade_azul16
  • bishopobispo
  • jade_azul16
  • constantdisregard
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      constantdisregard  
    • The emo fashion (as opposed to the 80s music sub-genre "pioneered" by Husker Du and Rites of Spring) is the modern-day hair metal. Like your parents with their perms and mullets, these kids will look back 20 years from now and ask themselves "What the HELL was I thinking?"

    • 3 years ago
  • bloodsugarmagik
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      bloodsugarmagik  
    • I think I read an article in a magazine about this. It's just so weird to me how people get angry and violent over the stupidest things. Why would you honestly want to hurt a couple of teenagers because of the way they look and the music they listen to? It's pathetic really. People always have to find something to be angry about.

    • 3 years ago
  • pirho338
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      pirho338  
    • And why the hell do negative people have to run their mouths about their ignorance? Its funny, most of the people who say they hate "emos" are usely pretty big tools themselves, wearing their abercrombie or aropostle with their big white sunglasses, watching vh1, flipping their hair in the front, etc etc, just generally being total sheep. Then they notice someone who's following a different set of trends, and in hopes to fit in even more they open their mouths and run them till the damn cows come home, never really seeing that they are really no different. At least the "emos" aren't afraid of being riddiculed and tortured by you insecure people, and they didnt choose the easy "preppy" kid path...but don't get me wrong, I'm all for originality, and following any trend to fit in with any group is pathetic, I'm just saying I would much prefer to hang out with "emos" than than the people who hate them, mostly "preps"...I really can't stand ambiguous labels though and I'm already sick of this thread...

    • 3 years ago
  • omordn
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      omordn  
    • pirho338:

      I agree 100% with you. All these anti-emo individuals are hiding something through their insecurities... maybe they wanted to be emo in the first place but didn't look good in their outfits. Lol.

    • 3 years ago
  • pirho338
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      pirho338  
    • I'm surprised that someone on this site would use the word emo, its not even the correct slang for fuxs sake, try hipsters, or scenesters, or we could bring back the word beatnick, but seriously, emos? what are you, a highschool jock?

    • 3 years ago
  • HenryG
  • Soap
  • eta
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      eta  
    • pirho338:

      and to be accurate, using the lexicons, as arbitrary as these reductive labels are...this cultural niche wouldn't be considered hipster or scenester or beatnik. its emo. except the kid with the brown sweater, he was conservatively dressed enough to classify as scenester or hipster, i suppose. but the terms hipster and beatnik carry much richer traditions of intellect if you really wanna get down to semantics, and calling these kids those labels would be unjust. bc i can safely say, unlike the many artists who emerged from hipster and beatnik niches, there will be no worthy artist that will ever emerge from this niche.

    • 3 years ago
  • VegaNerDiva
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      VegaNerDiva  
    • When visiting Mexico 9 years ago the cops stole all my money along with my friends and shattered his shin w/ police batons for no reason.
      So it seems the violence there isn't just towards emo culture vultures but towards anyone who looks different.

    • 3 years ago
  • HolyCity2012
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      HolyCity2012  
    • I think this is less about being "Emo" and more about Mexicans and their disingenuous sense of style. Mexicans where I am from tend to dress like they are on their way to a shitty night club or an audition for a Mexican game show. It just seems like they try way to hard.

    • 3 years ago
  • omordn
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      omordn  
    • HolyCity2012:

      "Mexicans where I am from tend to dress like they are on their way to a shitty night club or an audition for a Mexican game show."

      Hahaha! I couldn't agree with you more! I'm Mexican and I hate it when I see people who try too hard when they "dress" up. Do I bash on them though? No. I just laugh and get over it. Lol.

    • 3 years ago
  • BlueDotProdux
  • beaney
  • aschneider
  • spoonieday
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      spoonieday  
    • who cares what a bunch of kids does with their time anyway? why does difference= it's okay to harass? my lil sis is emo, or was. i thought it was dumb but I didn't harass her about it or beat her up. i just continued to love her and she seems to be growing out of it. we all like stupid stuff when we're young, that's the whole point of being young, to figure out who we are through experimentation.

    • 3 years ago
  • AlfredM
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      AlfredM  
    • So did they do anything wrong in the first place? Can't say that I understand the emo culture BUT i don't think violence is the way to respond....

    • 3 years ago
  • MisaGarcia
  • jade_azul16
  • StonedNailpolish
  • StonedNailpolish
  • arturogarza
    • 0
      arturogarza  
    • Prove you are resourceful, entertaining, a social innovator, and I will appreciate somebody who embodies those qualities. Seriously, though, you've got about two chances to prove that you are never going to be that.

    • 3 years ago
  • pirho338
  • arturogarza
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      arturogarza  
    • arturogarza:

      I guess you should consider that the occurrence of muggings and hold-ups etc. might not be directed at the way these youths choose to dress, but rather at the fact that they enjoy the luxury of choice.

      Accessorizing in any form is denotative of an upper-middle class. If you take a closer look at the culture you'll see that tension between impoverished and uppermid class is something that has been going on in MEX for generations.

      Haha. I was incoherent.

    • 3 years ago
  • erodut
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      erodut  
    • Hating someone for what they feel and what they look like is, at best, asinine. When was the last time a whole way of life was threatened by intolerant views? Oh yeah, it was the Holocaust.

    • 3 years ago
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