Do Pagans Have More Sex?
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The quotes come from Leo Rutherford, a leading advocate of neo-shamanism, which is a subset of neo-paganism, which is a subset of New Age spirituality. But the basic idea—that there was a golden age of spiritual purity which we fallen moderns need to recover—goes beyond New Age circles. You see traces of it even in such serious scholars as Karen Armstrong, who wrote in A History of God that early Abrahamic religion had created a gulf "between humanity and the divine, rupturing the holistic vision of paganism."
As the author of the just-published book The Evolution of God, about the history of religion, I'm primed to do some debunking. But before I start, I want to stress two points: 1) I think it's great for people to find spiritual peace and sound moral orientation wherever they can, including neo-paganism; 2) I don't doubt that back before Western monotheism took shape there were earnest seekers of a "holistic vision" who selflessly sought to share that vision.
What I do doubt is that these earnest, selfless spiritual leaders were any more common in the heyday of shamanism than today, or that the spiritual quest was any less corrupted by manipulation and outright charlatanism than today, or that there was a coherent philosophy of shamanism that makes more sense than the average religion of today.
if shamanism is so crude, how did it get glamorized? In 1951, the esteemed scholar Mircia Eliade published a book called Shamanism. While he didn't whitewash shamanism, he did his best to see its more refined side. He wrote that Eskimo shamanism and Buddhist mysticism share as their goal "deliverance from the illusions of the flesh." And shamanism, he said, features "the will to transcend the profane, individual condition" in order to recover "the very source of spiritual existence, which is at once 'truth' and 'life.' "
f you try neo-shamanism, don't be under the illusion that you're helping to recover a lost age of authentic spirituality. Religion has always been a product of human beings, for better and worse."
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artemis6
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At least pagans didn't have as many hang ups about sex , as some religions make you feel all weird about your naked self and restrict intercourse to procreation purposes only and the like . It is the guilt and shame problem that really bothers me about it . It is messed up to feel that way for simply enjoying yourself with another person .
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artemis6
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idealist
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no one has more sex then me:).
and im not pagan (im a sex machine)
every other statement is just a waste of our tax dollars. - 2 years ago
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idealist
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RojoGatto
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put the word sex in the article it will get thousands more views
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RojoGatto
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endovenoso
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can someone explain how the title relates to this article? It's a good read, but it seems like the the title is just sexing it up
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endovenoso
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St_Alia_10191
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endovenoso:
The author gave it the title "Do Shamans Have More Sex?" I changed it to Pagan because more people think of the word "Pagan" with a more modern connotation.
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St_Alia_10191
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endovenoso:
And if you are a devout Catholic priest, that sex you have will be with young boys.
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trut
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ProjectBat
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People have religious beliefs based on what they think is true. Having more sex would be a poor motivator to change religions, especially to one so obviously false as paganism. Here's a little secret...no matter what religion you are...you can have all the sex you want!
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ProjectBat
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GrinningSatyr
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ProjectBat:
I'm pretty sure if any religion is obviously false, they all are.
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GrinningSatyr
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remanns
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Worth the read. (THEN go dance naked with the Maenads,...rock on!)
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remanns
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asherp
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New Age is bullshit.
"Buy these things so that you can acheive a state free from attachment!"
what the fuck ever
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asherp
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imp_print
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asherp:
New age, not.
We are celebrating the age before you Christians fucked up society.
Go Judge your child molesting pastor - 2 years ago
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imp_print
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DeliaTheArtist
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asherp:
imp, how can you respond with "you Christians" when you don't know the religion of the person you are talking to, if they even have one?
I'm down with ancient pagans but it's not like society was that fabulous before the Christians (or any other religion for that matter) got a hold of it. Pagans did a lot of crazy shit themselves. Furthermore, "New Age" is a distinct type of douchebaggery looking to profit from people's interest in ancient magicks and spirituality and frequently it has very little to do with real wicca or paganism.
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DeliaTheArtist
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idealist
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asherp:
seriously! people and there sexual religions damn!
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idealist
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asherp
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asherp:
I'm not a Christian.
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asherp
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bailey78
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Of corse we do silly .
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