Captain Chesley Sullenberger joins Jennifer Granholm to discuss the qualities the inspire people to lead and leaders to action. Sullenberger’s new book Making a Difference features a chapter on Granholm’s time as governor of Michigan, when the state was in crisis. Sullenberger says that to address crisis, leaders need an ability to take on a cause greater than themselves.

Also, Melanie Roussell, press secretary for the Democratic National Committee, discusses voting rights and Jennifer Granholm gives her view on the same topic.