Subliminal advertising really does work, claim scientists
source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6232801/Subliminal-advertising-really-does-w...
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They found it was particularly effective with negative images and words which could alter a person’s mood.
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remanns
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Love that stuff. Its like the "wheres waldos Dck" of advertising! Jusy good commercial fun!
- 2 years ago
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remanns
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Hou_Kairs
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Remember back in the 80's and 90's when Disney got into trouble for putting a dildo on the cover of "Little Mermaid" and in "Aladdin" the cloud of smoke spelled out Sex and there was another sex suggestion in the "Lion King" that slips my mind at the moment. Google it and I'm sure you'll find it.
I remember a presentation in High School on this exact subject and how sex sells. They showed a liquor ad in a magazine where the ice cubes in the glass that the liquor was about to be poured over spelled out sex down the glass perfectly, just by the shape of the ice cubes. But you wouldn't even of noticed it if you didn't already know that it was there in the first place.
Now do you think all that is mere coincidence? Or put there on purpose to help bolster sales!
- 2 years ago
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Hou_Kairs
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iloveravi
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Subliminal? Come on. You really think that is happening?
Look around. On national TV "news" legally they are allowed to lie about what ever they want -over and over and over and over again until it become true in the minds of the people.
This happens all the time everyday in america.
Why would they go back to something like subliminal?
Look into the studies on the effects of continual lies and how the effect the american populace.
You may be in for a surprise.
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iloveravi
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PressCore
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iloveravi:
Trust me, there's very little they can do which would actualy surprise me. Others, yes. Me. Hell no. The entire reason why they lie like rugs so often is because of what the word "lie" actualy means. In law parlance, something "lies" if it's a legal issue which is settled, and made established. As in to lay down the law. OK they can't be prosecuted for lying through their teeth. That's called free speech. (It has to be tortious, as in fraudulent, invasion of privacy, malicious defamation, unauthorized use of someone's likeness/ersonaly identifiable info to sell air time etc. to civily prosecute for. It has to be reading someone's mail, or broadcasting their telephone calls etc. to criminaly prosecute them for.) Webster's Dictionary definition of "lawful" also extends to the concept of frequency. Ie. if an event is expected to occurr a million times according to predictable conditions, it's regarded as "lawful" ie, legal. They've been so successful in sublimating sales of commericial products via Televised mind control hypnosis for so very long now, that they're not going back to it. They're going forward with it. Talk shows, politicians selling lies are simply selling shit because their viewers will buy anything their sponsors advertise during the commercial breaks. Only the BBC is honest enough to mention that explicitly. They can get away with selling shit because it doesn't offend people's noses. If it did, people would complain to the FCC which would suspend or revoke their license to broadcast. George Orwell knew the sublimation power of TV to mind control people when he wrote his book 1984. In Orwellian "doublerspeak" (what we've always called doubletalk) "truth is lies". Meaning if you tell people lies purporting to be the truth often enough
they'll be conditioned to believe it. Conditioning means to pair the association of fatigue with a lie so that people ignore it. When they relax to it, and ignore it, they don't have their defenses up, so the lies slip beneath their conscious mind threshold, and are accepted as truth in their unconscious mind. Hypnotized people never even suspect they've been hypnotized. Haven't you ever noticed what we call "info wars". If you can control the minds of the masses, you can control financial markets because people need to use money to live. Sublimation works.
There's a saying: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" But if you suggest to the horse he's thirsty often enough, you can sit back and watch him lead himself to water. Suggestion will accomplish things that force never could. - 2 years ago
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Hou_Kairs
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iloveravi:
You may be the one in for a surprise! And that's the point, for you to never be aware that it is happening!
If you don't think that "they" would use every tool imaginable at their disposal to persuade the masses opinion, then you are already a victim. Why wouldn't they is the real question.
But how do we defend ourselves from it?
To be aware of it, is probably the best defense that I can think of against it? That and to educate yourself as much as possible, so as to form your own opinions on subjects based on facts that you have researched yourself. Instead of just taking for granted whatever the talking head on the TV tells you while you're half asleep after a hard day's work, which I admit is easy to do!
- 2 years ago
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Hou_Kairs
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iloveravi
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iloveravi:
I suppose it isn't that I don't think that would use it just that it would deliver an unpredictable result.
They (meaning politicians, govs, companies, advertisers etc...) need a reliable predictable result and subliminal approaches don't seem to be either.
Maybe I am looking at it too simplistically.
I tend to imagine them putting in obscure messages into media sources but realistically it would be a large scale manipulation of all media...
Hmm...plausible but again. Not something I am concerned about.
Interesting none the less.
- 2 years ago
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iloveravi
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PressCore
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My undergranduate degree study was in Psychology from the S.U. of New York. We learned back in the 1960s that it had already been researched & proven the unconscious mind can perceive 24 frames per second from a motion picturing camera, the human eye long before the 1st movie came out in June 1894.. The eye can see & the mind can remember even one frame out of 24 very easily. Why shouldn't it ? The primary purpose for having an unconscious mind is to act as a memory reservoir. The conscious mind perceives things in only the waking state,then shuttles those perceptions into the unconscious unless it focuses on them by noticing something. But the unconscious mind always perceives things, even when your sleeping or in a coma. When people are hypnotized to mind control them, it's simply a matter of relaxing their conscious mind to ease back and roll off their conscious mind so that their unconscious mind can rise to the surface. When you're fully awake you can use all your mental faculties,reason, etc. But when you're tired, or too relaxed, a single suggestion without competition is perceived as a command.The sedative/anesthetic/hypnotic class of substances such as Cannabis, alchohol etc.will have this effect on the psyche. Even driving on the Interstate for too long without stopping to rest, or watching TV/movies on end will prep the couch potatoes to be programmed for subliminal messaging in this presleep state of consciousness. In the late 1980s a John Carpenter movie "They Live" explored the metaphor of substituting E.T. aliens for Corporations marketing their products by subliminal messaging that was everwhere, though invisible. It was as if everyone was walking around in a common dream, ie sleepwalking but unaware that they were sleepwalking, because of the mass hypnosis. So if you were to wear special glasses (the invisibility metaphor part again) then you could see who was an alien, and who was human. Even Saturday Night Live spoofed it with their "fecal vision" glasses. You had to put them on to see that shit was everwhere. Ha ! Made you look. Back in the late 1950s, and early 1960s, Rod Serling produced an avant guard sci fi series called the Twilight Zone in black & white photography. I was a take off based on the earlier TV series One Step Beyond. In the Twilight Zone intro, in Rod Serling's voice, he narrated the following: "There is a middle ground between light and shadow, between form and substance. And it lies somewhere between the pit of man's fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This middle ground is called Immagination.It is as as infinite as space, and as timeless as infinity.This is the dimension of Mind." The music theme playing in the background to complement the verbal narration was with bongo drums and electric guitar sounding pretty freaky. With the immages on the screen showing the sun setting, then the stars in space coming out, then the scene rapidly landed on earth to set the stage for the episode. They still air this series on the Sy Fy channel out of NYC. Yes, the CIA did research on sublimation for use in its Manchurian Candidate assasination program. They plucked that one right out of the history of Omar Kyam vs the hashishens(Persian name for assasins) because they abused hashish to mind control & train people to commit to
Murder 1 . Terrorism is nothing new either. It's simply
become more rampant that it's obvious to everybody now finaly.. - 2 years ago
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Hou_Kairs
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PressCore:
Thank you for your eloquent and very informative post. I very much enjoyed reading it.
You obviously are a learned person. Thank you for taking the time to impart some wisdom for the good of us all.
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Hou_Kairs
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good_stuff
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I'll beleive it when I see it.
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good_stuff
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good_stuff:
Ha ! No you won't. (see it that is) That's how sublimation works. Sub=below + limination=threshold of consciousness. They make it invisible by shooting it past you so fast that although your eyes are quite capable of the shutter speed, the signal goes straight through the optic nerve into the brain centers handling the unconscious mind. You may indeed remember seeing it, in immages, if you dream about it after you sleep, but you're guaranteed never to see it as it happens. If something is moving slowly, you can see it because of the relativity factor. That is you can see the figure moving because the background immage is either fixed and stationary, or moving slower than the forground. Accelerate the forground object faster and you will perceive a blur. Accelerate it some more and it will be invisible, not to youyr eye, but to your conscious mind. Albert Einstein proved that long ago.
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PressCore
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Hou_Kairs
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good_stuff:
Agreed.
You already have seen it, you just may not be aware of it!
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Hou_Kairs
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Hou_Kairs
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Yes, it is true that this type of experimenting has been going on for 50 years. In fact, the article even refers to the first famous subliminal experiment done by coca-cola in movie theaters in the 1950's in which flashing images and words of "popcorn" and "buy coca-cola" on the big screen actually produced results of higher sales of those items.
Of course, after these studies proved subliminal advertising to work it was soon banned for obvious reasons, taking away a persons free will would be reason enough to place a ban on all subliminal advertising. But that doesn't mean that corporations stopped experimenting with it and finding new ways to covertly put it into ads.
More than just corporations could find a use for subliminal messages. Think politics on the nightly news, promoting a particular political candidate, or even sports teams advertising. The uses are virtually limitless if perfected down to a science, and us the victims (consumers) would be none the wiser.
And I would bet my eye teeth that just because it was banned, did not mean that it wasn't still being studied and trying to find new ways to seamlessly fit it into our everyday lives without us even noticing it.All of the advertising agencies are at a crossroads right now because the average citizen (consumer) has learned to ignore or tune out most ads. We are so used to being bombarded with ads that we are literally inundated and immune to most of the ads effects.
This is why product placement has become such a huge deal on our nightly shows. American Idol with their coca-cola glasses always sitting in front of the judges front and center, on display for all to see. And they're not the only show to embrace product placement. The next time you're watching your favorite show look for some of these product placements, some are cleverly done and some are blatantly obvious, but they are there nonetheless.So the next time your favorite action hero jumps into a slick looking ride, see if they prominently show which car manufacturer it is, or when a character orders a drink by name and that beverage is displayed more than once throughout the show or even billboards in the background; Are all there for a reason, to get you thinking about a certain product without you even knowing that you're thinking about it.
Some might say that product placement is the evolution of subliminal advertising. But I have a hunch that ad agencies have far more reaching psychological tactics that we the public aren't even aware of yet, and that is the reason why they probably work!
And if you don't think that the CIA would also be interested in this technology, I have a bridge for sale as well. lol ;-)
- 2 years ago
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Hou_Kairs
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masterzip
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I know subliminal advertising works as i was about to go out and purchase a female knee replacement after seeing boobs advertise this product,...and I am male....
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masterzip
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Hou_Kairs
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masterzip:
I fell for that one also! lol
You know what they say... Sex sells!So true, so true :)
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Hou_Kairs
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bailey78
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This was news fifty years ago when they were doing it. well they may have never Quit though. so for all I know this maybe the reason I have fits of rage sometimes. I would love to find out that they made me the way I am. I just want to find a reason for my anger.
- 2 years ago
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bailey78
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Hou_Kairs
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I find it interesting that only negative messages make it through, more than positive ones.
Think of today's politics and how this could be being used right now! You never know......
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