Upstream | November 02, 2009 | 19 comments

Tamiflu and Swine Flu Vaccine Patient Comments of permanent and serious side effects.

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19 comments // Tamiflu and Swine Flu Vaccine Patient Comments of permanent and serious side effects.

  • mojo191
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      mojo191  

    • Odd that Big Pharma has refused to totally remove those vaccine contents that have proven themselves to be neurotoxic & to provoke some mighty mean & sometimes permanent & damaging side effects -- which have been witnessed and attested to not only in our own country, but in other countries throughout the world, isn't it? Even health ministers the world over are catching on to this Big Pharma fraud. Just check out this video & you'll see, as Finland’s Health Minister Blasts Swine Flu BS… a 7 minute YOUTUBE expose' on Big Pharma's fraud.

      http://bit.ly/3ilaN

      And as to the commenter who remarked that patients may in fact be experiencing THE FLU & Not the side effects, it would be good to bear in mind some recent research done by highly qualified investigative reporters and scientists, as well as the results of recent court rulings regarding the role played by heavy metals in autism by means of their role as likely triggers and/or aggravators of underlying mitochondrial dysfunction, through which they interfere with a process called "oxidative phosphorylation", which is the process by which the body converts food into the electrical energy needed in order to power our body functions. When the mitochondria are damaged, one often sees typical results of this damage, such as lethargy, poor muscle tone, poor food digestion and bowel problems, all or many of which are frequently found in many children diagnosed with autism.

    • 2 years ago
  • eskimoe
  • CarolynGillis
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      CarolynGillis  
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    • In 1999, Snyderman returned over $50,000 to DrKoop.com, a healthcare website based in Austin, Texas, after violating insider trading rules prohibiting corporate officers and directors from profiting from a stock sale within six months of buying shares. At the time, she was a director of DrKoop.com, founded by a former Surgeon General of the United States, C. Everett Koop. Her husband, an investment banker, bought 1,650 shares of DrKoop.com, during its initial public offering (IPO) for $9 a share, and sold it a month later at $41.27 a share.[3]
      Snyderman lives in Princeton, New Jersey, with her husband, Doug Myers, and is the mother of three children: Kate, Rachel, and Charlie. Dr. Nancy strongly supports a public option in the current health care reform debate. [4][5]

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Snyderman

    • 2 years ago
  • CarolynGillis
  • Seldonseenkid
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      Seldonseenkid  
    • CarolynGillis:

      Great rhetoric, I guess. I suppose I could be a drug-pushing b*tch too ... Look, that woman may or may not be a corrupt asshole, but imo that stuff's politics, which is a different topic. If you just want to keep your kid safe, you might just want to look at the math involved in who gets and dies from the FLU, and how. Yes, know the stats of the med's risks, absolutely, but first know the stats between the Flu with the med and the Flu without the med, otherwise the med risks are meaningless. I'm all about freedom. But educated freedom is better than ignorant freedom.

    • 2 years ago
  • Dmoneymeden
  • CarolynGillis
  • nursediesel
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      nursediesel  

    • The juries still out on this year's vaccine. Everyone getting it seems to have side effects.
      On the other hand Tamiflu is a very strong medication. Vitamins and fluids are the way to go. Vitamin C and Zinc are great to fend off and treat virus' and homemade chicken soup with onions, carrots, celery, garlic and the chicken has the nickname as 'ethnic penicillin"!
      BTW there are other anti-viral meds, but anti-viral meds are, also, very expensive.
      And not to be repeditive but there are hundreds and hundreds of different viruses we have identified, how many more that we have not?

    • 2 years ago
  • lionessgrrl
  • CarolynGillis
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      CarolynGillis  
    • nursediesel:

      is there a total lack of ethics, or just ignorance of the facts and everyone flagging others in because the cdc said it was ok or dr nancy said or the school nurse..etc.
      our local school said the cdc said it was good...this is not good enough for me as a parent because i personally have seen severe lapses in these government agencies.

    • 2 years ago
  • nursediesel
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      nursediesel  
    • nursediesel:

      Yeah, I used to be a robot for the CDC and other medical alert prevention info but as time goes by I wonder if many of the things modern western medicine have pushed on the unknowing public actually caused many of the problems we deal with today especially in our children.
      ie: Only the rich, pampered children that swam in swimming pools were found to be the first to develop polio. The general public kids without 'medical protection' that swam in rivers and lakes had immunity against general ailments and weren't effected.

    • 2 years ago
  • nursediesel
  • CarolynGillis
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      CarolynGillis  
    • nursediesel:

      nursedeisel it is great you came out of the bad system.
      all of us are guilty of traveling down the wrong path at some point.
      Because I sometimes shop at Walmart doesn't mean that i am for slave labor..just trying to live in the bad system as well as possible.

      Good people sometimes do bad things..

    • 2 years ago
  • nursediesel
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      nursediesel  
    • nursediesel:

      I've seen what happens to family members when they question the doctors as to why something happened. The doctors give a lot of pat answers and treat you like your nuts if you ask them a question they don't want to answer because they're afraid they or the hospital will get sued. The family only want to know to prevent it from happening again to someone else.

    • 2 years ago
  • CarolynGillis
  • Seldonseenkid
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      Seldonseenkid  
    • CarolynGillis:

      In order for the Japanese policy to make scientific sense, they'd had to have shown/discovered that, among 8.6 million people with the flu, it's unprecedented that among 54 who might die, 16 would be under 16 years old, and that "several" (the scientific term used) of those 16 would exhibit disturbing behavior. If that were the case it might constitute evidence that it's the drug that's the cause, rather than the flu. And if so, I'd say let's implement this! I just haven't seen that.

      There's no way to be 100% sure a medicine will be safe for a particular individual, which sucks. Where our own kids are concerned, odds of 99-point-whatever just don't feel like they cut it. It's almost-- almost-- comforting to think that it's a conspiracy at work, a conspiracy which, once cleared up will lead to the golden result, that 100% safety for our kids. And that's what I want, too, 100% safety.

      I really don't mean to belittle anyone's suffering or, God knows, losses. I just believe that reading articles-- and evidence-- with a good scientific eye is the more effective way to get to that 100%, to say nothing of curtailing vast amounts of human pain. And I do know the influenza has killed millions.

      Like everyone, I want to play it as safe as possible, and to me that means reading the science. I don't begrudge people their differing opinions but I feel obligated to point out things I think are misleading when I have the energy to do so, which is only occasionally.

      Sorry to be verbose; I'm procrastinating. : )
      Cheers and good health,
      SSK

    • 2 years ago
  • Seldonseenkid
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      Seldonseenkid  

    • This 'story' needs an injection of science. I don't disbelieve people's anecdotal evidence, but their explanations are often wrong. E.g., flu strains can be resistant to Tamiflu, and what the patients experience may in fact be THE FLU and not side effects. Vaccines save lives, and prevent suffering. As a friend of mine says, "people died before these medicines were in vented-- you can look it up." : )

    • 2 years ago
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • Seldonseenkid:

      Hey I hate to tell ya but people are still dieing from it. That is a fact of life we all die. some die before others some die in vane. How ever we all have it coming.Death it happens to everything.

    • 2 years ago
  • Seldonseenkid
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      Seldonseenkid  
    • Seldonseenkid:

      Yup, and you are right, yes we are still dying from the flu. My point is, I believe lots more will die of the flu if millions of Americans stop getting vaccinated because of misleading stories and policies.

    • 2 years ago
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