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Label call for ALL foods from GMO crops

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JanforGore
If a cow eats it, and you eat the cow, you eat the GMOS. Where is the labelling? Where is the accountabilty?
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28 comments // Label call for ALL foods from GMO crops

  • artemis6
  • current89
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      current89  
    • Personally, I think GMO's should be labeled, but I also think that certain GMOs should be phased out of the market altogether. I'm not against GMOs in theory. But, I am against placing a product that hasn't been tested thoroughly enough on the market.

      In addition, Monsanto seems to be a classic example of a monopoly, and that monopoly damages GMO research as a whole. It doesn't do the science and possible benefits of GMOs justice.

    • 2 years ago
  • galwayman
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      galwayman  
    • Jan while I AGREE 100% Percent with labeling all GMO foods I suffer from an Auto-immune disease that among other things requires me to have meat protein.soy and other alturnitives don't work.[it's been tried] so while I buy meat certified as no GMO whenever possible it would seem as far as meat goes I can't not eat it! only in this country is this a real problem,GMO's,i'll not deny that am not really concerned,this disease will kill me sooner or later anyway

    • 2 years ago
  • sirpaulmcdarkney
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      sirpaulmcdarkney  
    • Why would we NOt want to know what it is we're actually eating.
      The problem is more of what the GM feed does to the animal eating it, and then what that does to the person eating the animal. Either way, the more people turn to their local farmers the less GM foods are sold. That is the most effective signal to send to the corporations. Remember the time before 'green' was a lifestyle to be targeted by advertising campaigns? Well, that only became possible because because the public spoke with their earnings and companies were finally convinced that going green could SAVe them dollars!

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • Incredulous
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      Incredulous  
    • knowing what is in our food is not enough. we have to hold the corporations who have altered the practices of farming accountable...and one of the best ways to hold a corporation accountable is boycott, but you can't boycott if you don't know what they are producing and/or how they are influencing the way crops are produced.

    • 2 years ago
  • tomofnorthcal
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • " In three published scientific studies, three separate teams of researchers have found GM DNA from animal feed (Roundup Ready oilseed rape, Monsanto's GM MON 810 maize and GM soya) in meat and milk. [3]"

      For the usuals who have a problem in reading comprehension.

    • 2 years ago
  • Kyle_Crenshaw
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • JanforGore:

      I'm sure they also found insect legs as well. That's how food packaging works. The question is how much. Feed dust in the product is no surprise. It is a farm after all.

      Eating dna doesn't change anything. You don't become what you eat. Dna is information. It's a long chain polymer and is actually fairly nutritious. If it did McDonalds customers would all be half cow half corn syrup by now.

    • 2 years ago
  • werewere
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      werewere  
    • Genetically modifying plants and animals began thousands of years ago, with domestication. I'm sure there were opponents of that too.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • bombastinator
  • JanforGore
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • bombastinator:

      I'm not per se. I'm against bad logic and poor journalism. The reasoning behind the demand for this labeling is just bad, and the demand is being made by a group with an obvious huge conflict of interest. You want to see me really irritated you should hear the tongue lashings I used to give shanklinmike for his libertarian spam garbage. Compared to that this is practically polite.

    • 2 years ago
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • I want it labeled . Why not ? Unless there IS something to hide ? A more informed population is a happier , healthier one . People who hide things are guilty , guilty , guilty . At least that has been my experience .

    • 2 years ago
  • carmalite
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      carmalite  
    • We should have the right to choose which foods we want to buy and which we do not.
      All those who claim that the market will decide, the conservatives who are against this, are hypocrits, because they know that people , given the chance and the money, would prefer not to buy GMO anything.

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
  • cynker
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      cynker  
    • people wont be shunning genetically modified food in 30 years! the most important thing is to stop huge profits at the supermarket on food - give it to the farmers, and stop the waste!

    • 2 years ago
  • bombastinator
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      bombastinator  
    • >"If a cow eats it, and you eat the cow, you eat the GMOS. Where is the labelling? Where is the accountabilty?"<

      A terrific example of magical thinking and a "does not follow" fallacy.

      The cow in question does not take in the actual altered genetic material, it merely digests it. By your logic you could also learn Spanish by feeding the cow pages from Spanish phrase books. Pure sympathetic magic.

      Now if the GMO nature of the cattle feed means that it is ingesting an actual chemical like, say roundup, that would be a completely different thing. The same effect could be achieved by adulterating the feed in any conventional manner. The actual genetics don't matter though.

    • 2 years ago
  • GoodGodGuy
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      GoodGodGuy  
    • Oh come on! Isn't it past time to know where and what is in our food. Where it is grown or made or anything. Ban Monsanto from everything.

    • 2 years ago
  • raylinmarie
  • AmericanStandard
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      AmericanStandard  
    • Ah.. yes i remember the part in Mendel's studies where he mentions the use of a gene gun and attaching genes to a virus. I also remember when he mentioned using a gene from a fish in a tomato. Oh wait i am CONFUSING GENETIC MODIFICATION WITH PROGRESSIVE SELECTION!! Alas the two are not apples to apples and the former can hardly be considered fruit. I wish we had labeling standards in U.S.

    • 2 years ago
  • Incredulous
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      Incredulous  
    • AmericanStandard:

      actually, viruses steal genes on their own without our help, and we do eat tomatoes with our fish....I'm not saying there are not potential unknown hazards, but when we refuse to address the known hazards, like single-crop corporate farming, I think our fears are easily manipulated away from what we should be addressing, onto what we aren't quite sure about. I do believe we should label, but labeling isn't going to stop the horrible practices of corporate farming that have KNOWN environmental and health impacts. It seems like a sleight of hand at times...

      and yes, gene guns are more sophisticated tools

    • 2 years ago
  • Incredulous
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      Incredulous  
    • we still have solutions available. boycott is always an option, join the buy nothing day campaign, http://current.com/1l9tq4c

      We can demand labeling. most of the scientists working on GM crops are in favor of labeling and giving people a choice. It is companies like Monsanto that want to eliminate choice, and that has more to do with corporate greed than it does GM crops.

      A lot of people who are screaming about GMs don't realize that we genetically modify a crop every time we select for one and not the other. Mendel was doing it with his peas when he selected one variant in a plant over another. Our tools for selection have become much more sophisticated, but essentially, mankind has been genetically modifying crops and animals from the day mankind first began to farm and herd animals.

      The real enemy is corporate farming, which decreases variation and focuses on single crop payoffs, and we DO have the power to force them to give us what we want, not just what they want to produce. It too is called selection, and every consumer engages in selection. Educate yourself about what you are consuming, and who is producing it. That is hard work, and it takes time, but you can either spend your labor in your own garden, or spend your labor on your computer and find out the facts behind your food. Use your power as a consumer and bring the corporations into line with what you want.

      Modify corporate behavior, and know what you are selecting for.

    • 2 years ago
  • cadsuch
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      cadsuch  
    • All our industrial sectors are controled by monopolies. We don't have a free entrprise democracy any more. Some of us are aware of this and some of the people who ARE aware don't care. Or they think it is a good idea. But I don't know of a way to change any of the problems you reveal to us on current. I think it is good to disclose the problems but, its not like there is a solution available to us. When we were dealing with a democracy we had checks and balances to keep the CEO's honest and keep them doing things the right way and doing the right things.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Also, GM soy and BT maize grown for animal feed causes deforestation, transgenic contamination, and pollution through pesticides. The saying 'You are what you eat' takes on a whole new meaning in a genetically modified world. Is that truly a world you wish to live in?

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Excerpt:
      EXTRACT: Although little research has been done in this area, it is clear that plant chloroplast DNA from GM feed survives in eggs, meat and milk from animals that are fed GM maize and soya. In three published scientific studies, three separate teams of researchers have found GM DNA from animal feed (Roundup Ready oilseed rape, Monsanto's GM MON 810 maize and GM soya) in meat and milk.
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      Soil Association call for GM labels
      http://feedingtheworldconference.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/soil-association-call-...

      Soil Association calls for compulsory labelling of food from GM crops in light of new FSA research

      The Soil Association today wrote to the new Chair of the Food Standards Agency (FSA), Lord Rooker, asking him to support the compulsory labelling of any meat or dairy products from animals fed on GM animal feed in the light of the findings of research published yesterday (25 November) by the FSA.

      The FSA report 'Exploring attitudes to GM food’ [1] states that: "The principles of transparency and consumer choice were clearly a priority for people holding a range of attitudes towards GM foods and this shaped their views on regulation and labelling." In what will be a controversial finding for the UK Government, but supports the Scottish and Welsh governments' opposition to GM, the study states that those consulted thought that "GM food was considered potentially unsafe and harmful or expressed concerns about the use of GM animal feed".

      The study states that "People in this study felt strongly that all products which involve GM processes should be labelled. This included products produced with GM technology and products from animals fed on GM animal feed, which do not currently have to be labelled." The researchers note that these views were held by people in favour as well as those opposed to GM food.

      As a result, the report concluded "There was widespread support for labelling of all GM food products, including where GM is used as a processing aid or in animal feed".

      There is significant evidence that consumers respond to labelling of products from animals given GM hormones or fed GM feed. For example, when American milk was labelled as GM hormone-free, sales of GM milk dropped, and in response to their customers' wishes, major companies like Walmart, Safeway, Starbucks and Kraft insisted on buying hormone free milk for their own label products. [2] Accurate labelling has always been vigorously opposed by GM companies in the USA and in Europe.

      In Europe, GM labelling laws in Germany and Austria have made clear that only if products are produced by animals not fed with GM feed can they be labelled as GM free.

      Although little research has been done in this area, it is clear that plant chloroplast DNA from GM feed survives in eggs, meat and milk from animals that are fed GM maize and soya. In three published scientific studies, three separate teams of researchers have found GM DNA from animal feed (Roundup Ready oilseed rape, Monsanto's GM MON 810 maize and GM soya) in meat and milk. [3]

      Peter Melchett, Soil Association policy director, said: “Many years ago when he was a minister at the then Ministry of Agriculture Fisheries and Food, Lord Rooker spoke passionately in the House of Commons about the need to protect consumers’ right to choose non-GM and organic food if that is what they want. [4] We are asking him to deliver on that promise by ensuring consumers have accurate information on whether the pork, beef and dairy products they buy come from GM-fed animals – chicken and eggs should be fine, as almost all UK chickens are already fed non-GM feed."
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      Another reason to decrease or cease your intake of meat. Unless of course you are willing to stand up for the consumer's right to know which has been grossly abused by these multinational companies and our own government.

    • 2 years ago
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