Another Solar System Like our Own?

hahahaha I have a craving to watch anything! I killed the cable service over a year ago I feel like Starbuck drifting in Space. I'm even thinking of Last Starfighter!

You're funny, but I like dreamers. Those lights yur looking at, they aren't street lamps. They're stars. If it was a trillion street lamps all turned on you'd have a good argument. Get it... Got it. Good.

I think it was more along the lines of having to retire our current ships and it being too expensive right now to send people up. Funding for space isn't completely cut right now, but what is more important? Finding funding for the education of our youth, or shoving it into a space program?

I second that.

Queue to robot miner team! They won't care it takes them 25,000-500,000-1,000,000 years to get there, but if they figure out we'll be dead & gone by the time the refreshments arrive I imagine they'll go rogue, go sentient, and go deserters!

It is within your power to contact them yourself...go right ahead, if you have enough faith in them and yourself, you will get a reply...have courage...

We could send the muslims there to see wot happens

I would feel better if we sent the christians first.

Yes thats a good idea send them both.

+^d Is like finally finding the window behind the curtains,.....and going "Wow "! "Stuff outside" !

I'm conservative and I think a free thinking, understanding liberal such as yourself would make a much more effective ambassador for the human race. You know us, conservatives we get all uptight and aggressive when we come across a new culture that we don't understand. I think Liberals such as yourself should go there first set up a nice friendly relationship with the new alien culture and report back to us all there military secrets. Their tactical strengths and weaknesses, then we can come and do what us, conservatives do best......... INVADE AND DESTROY.......

it will be enough

send there mc donalds, kentucky fried chicken, and the new burger KING's pizza they work much more than search and destroy

good idea" could send the muslims to.

Are you serious!?

I think they actually discovered one that they say could potentially house life because of its distance from it's star and the right conditions to sustain some sort of life...
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2009-04/22/content_7701414.htm

Until we stop pitting the wealthy and everyone else against each other, we will never get off this planet. Uncontrolled capitalism is an anachronism in a world with limited resources. It is time to tame the capitalist beast so he serves all of us. Like China!
Yes, it is obvious that China has abuses by the wealthy against the people. But they also have a crowd control problem. In the US when 5000 protesters come out to play, 15000 Chinese come out. That logistical problem can quickly be amplified if the US crowd is 1 million. So China controls it’s wildly successful capitalist economy in order to stop unrest from spinning out of control.
We have a great opportunity to adapt a similar economic philosophy of controls on a smaller more manageable level, before things get worse. And far from using Chinese Communism as a governmental system, we can do it through our own Democracy. Socialism is a slave to Democracy that can be worked to raise all our economic levels, even sustained eco friendly economic jobs.
Then we can get to the stars.

That's what I said. :)

true, but she said it better....a lot better.

That was the joke. I gave it and yours +'d.

I agree! I just gave a bigger mouth. Giggles! :) ding up!

Maybe...but we already did the capitalism versus communism thing in space exploration when the Soviet Union was alive and...well, alive anyway. The Soviets did a few things well but their program was by and large a disaster. Our capitalist society did significantly better in no small part because our tax revenues from those capitalist ventures and the income tax on those they employed yielded many multiples of the rubles that the Soviets could throw at the problem. Personally, I think we have to find a way to make space sexy again. But I worry that an increasingly large portion of our population lacks either the intelligence or the imagination to see the benefits of space exploration -- if for no other reason than to keep the species alive a bit longer if we continue to destroy our home (I was going to say "shit where we eat," but of course that would be crude ; )

I was joking too.

I've got it! We need to pay off china until we're even, then we make some sort of amazing spacecraft or satellite and then brag about it to the Chinese something like "Hey China check out our new spaceship, it can land and take off from the moon over and over again. Yea it's pretty awesome, you guys have something like that right? No? well we're going to the moon again so we'll see you later." Boom space race is on again.

I gotcha, humor is foriegn on here sometimes! :)

Who's talking about communism? I prefer Echo-friendly capitalism as a sweet icing on the cake of socialism all run by Democracy.

"Our" new spaceship? You mean the one "we" have but nobody rides in it but young astronauts because we don't qualify to ride in "our" own spaceship "our" tax dollars paid to design and build? That spaceship?

What's your brag, Chinaman?

it could one day happen, though i doubt it would be an international venture into the stars. we've squabbled over things as meaningless as power, borders, religions, resources, right down to pure psychotic rage since man has realized the killing power of spear and stone. we'll never stop. there are theories that we might even drag our violence into the vacuum of space, as we will continue grow more advanced, we'll still fight amongst ourselves without end. it's sad really... 40 years since we've been to the moon, and we still havn't gone back. why? because there's no resources to exploit up there. say they find massive deposits of valuable materials? we'd have a base on the moon in no time.

"Socialism is a slave to Democracy that can be worked to raise all our economic levels, even sustained eco friendly economic jobs. Then we can get to the stars."

We could get to the stars now if there wasn't a glaring lack of technology. Flying through space in a hollowed out asteroid is a dumb idea; everyone would undoubtedly die. And it wouldn't be hundreds of years, think more along the lines of tens of thousands. No agency is ever going to invest in a plan like that. We need something that can get us there fast, or else its just not going to happen. That's why these conversations about traveling to the starts are based in fantasy; we simply can't do it.

we are a very egotistical species..also, the man made image of what 'God' or 'gods' are is the sole reason we see ourselves as the center of everything because we created an entity that tells us we were made in his image and that we're special.
i can only hope that the next step in our evolution as a species will happen sooner than later and we can finally let go of all these archaic mindsets and live with an open mind that is loving and non-judgmental (un-biased).

or that we will find a planet bearing life...that at least, will put my mind to rest.

What makes people think that?
Religion does.

The Bible makes it clear that the Earth is a flat disc, the sun and moon orbit across it, and the Earth is covered with a metal dome called the "firmament", with all the tiny little stars suspended from it.

And right above the firmament, right on the top surface, sits God on his throne, with all of the angels.

Good point, but if we were the first and the sin in Eden was the first wrench to hit the fan then until the questions raised regarding God's Sovereignty are settled here the rest of those other worlds out there are waiting on us to either solve it or die.

Now since if it had happened elsewhere first ~where Satan threw the wrench inta the fan there~, then we wouldn't be fighting the same battle again here because the Sovereignty question would have already been resolved and buried once for all Time there, but since we are it looks like Biblically yep, we are the first, the one and only.

The first to live & wow right on the money the first to sin too. Which means we are the only ones to have to live or die at an "Armageddon". It all ends soon, both for us and for the universe to come.

Is it just that, or is it lack of understanding. I mean yes, egotism is certainly part of it. Especially religious egotism. But what if it is also like Native Americans seeing European ships for the first time. I remember reading that the Nat. Americans' originally believed the sails to be some sort of cloud, and their minds didn't really "see" the rest of the ship that far out in the horizon because they not only had never seen a ship like that, but at their tactile level, could never comprehend making one. It wasn't until the ships were much closer did they realize it was a vessle of some kind. Also kind of like how it takes babies a while to comprehend shapes and images, or how a deaf person who has regained hearing can't comprehend certain sounds, right away. Takes time and experience to comprehend certain things.

It was my understanding their eyes never adjusted and it was their shaman who was able to understand they were ships. Requirements for being a shaman are very high. Hafta be Ford tough.

i know right? even if we had the technology to get there we'd have to send a family or two and even then only their grandchildren might actually arrive lol

yeah going faster than the speed of light makes you travel diagonally in time... or something. i have no idea. fuck physics

hahaha It has a few mistakes; it's the mistakes that are to die for because I'm the only one who sees them, thus proving my superiority over the masses, the superiority of the Bible-disciplined mind, and also the existence of divine inspiration at times when the puny human mind throws in the towel and that big invisible man up there in the clouds wants it done prior to Armageddon's red glare, invisible bombs bursting in air and all that.