Westboro Baptist Church's Funeral Pickets in Tucson Will Be Met by "Angels"
source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/11/arizona.funeral.westboro/index.html?hpt=T1
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By the CNN Wire Staff
January 11, 2011 2:25 a.m. EST
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
* Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket funerals of the Tucson shooting victims
* Several groups want to show support for the families of the victims
* They will be silent and non-confrontational, organizers say
* The funeral of 9-year-old Christina Green is Thursday
Tucson, Arizona (CNN) -- Tucson just isn't that kind of town, says Christin Gilmer.
Gilmer is talking about Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas, that has made its name picketing the funerals of people who died of AIDS, gay people, soldiers and even Coretta Scott King.
But when the church announced its intention to picket the funeral of a 9-year-old girl -- one of six people who died Saturday during the attempted assassination of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords -- Gilmer and others in the college town put their feet down.
Tucson, said Gilmer -- who said two of the six people killed were friends -- is a "caring, loving, peaceful community."
"For something like this to happen in Tucson was a really big shock to us all," she said. "Our nightmare happened when we saw Westboro Baptist Church was going to picket the funerals."
They're planning an "angel action" -- with 8-by-10-foot "angel wings" worn by participants and used to shield mourners from pickets. The actions were created by Coloradan Romaine Patterson, who was shocked to find the Topeka church and its neon signs outside the 1999 funeral of Matthew Shepherd, a young gay man beaten and left on a fence to die in Laramie, Wyoming.
"We want to surround them, in a nonviolent way, to say that our community is united," Gilmer said. "We're a peaceful haven."
"You don't mess with Tucson," said Gilmer, 26, who described it as "a little dot of blue in a sea of red."
But political persuasions don't matter, she said. Republicans, Democrats, independents, right, left and center -- they've all offered their support. Forty-two people have signed up on a Facebook page called "Build Angel Wings for the Westboro Funeral Counter-Protest and Meeting" and more than 4,500 have signed up on another page to "Show Support for the Families of the Tucson Shooting Victims."
"People, businesses, they're all donating material and money to build the angel wings," said Gilmer, who is helping organize the action. And, she added, they're donating to a fund created to help pay for services for the victims of the shooting.
Chelsea Cohen, a 20-year-old senior at the University of Arizona who launched the "Show Support" Facebook page, said she never expected such a response.
"Once I heard that the Westboro Baptist Church was coming, I felt like something should be done to show support for the families," she said. "I don't have any experience in organizing these things. I thought I might get 50 to 100 people."
Cohen said she thinks many of the 4,500 people who've signed up on the Facebook page will be there "in spirit" on Thursday, when mourners gather for the funeral of Christina Taylor Green, who was born on September 11, 2001. But she added, Tucson is an active town, and the response isn't likely to be small.
"This isn't a counter-protest," she said. "We wanted it to show support for the families and to show that Tucson is there with love and support."
They don't want to interfere with the funeral in any way, Cohen said.
"We plan on being completely silent, and we're asking people not to bring signs or make comments about the Westboro Baptist Church," she said.
The angels will be doing the same thing.
"We're going to silently stand there so people can mourn the death of a 9-year-old girl who died in a senseless tragedy," Gilmer said.
Cohen said several groups are planning to be at the funeral to show their support, and there is an effort afoot to bring them all together "into one group so we can all be on the same page."
"I hope that everyone there can convey the peaceful message that we want to convey, she said
And if the church pickets persist, the silent supporters will be on hand for the funerals of U.S. District Judge John Roll, Gabriel Zimmerman, Dorothy Morris, Dorwin Stoddard and Phyllis Schneck, the other five victims of Saturday's shooting. Giffords, who was shot in the head and is in critical condition, and 13 other people were wounded.
Westboro Baptist Church, founded by its spiritual leader, Fred Phelps, and run mostly by family members, did not respond to a request for an interview in time for this article. But a flier released by the church about the picket targets the Roman Catholic Church because Christina and her family were members.
"God hates Catholics!" the flier, posted on the church's "God Hates Fags" website, says. "God calls your religion 'vain,' as it's empty of His truth; you worship idols!"
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randallr01
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"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction..."
The WBC will eventually meet its proper & deserved demise, in some form or fashion.
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randallr01
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NormaBishop
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That is great news!!! I live in Arizona and love everything about it. I think every state should follow and pass the same law. These evil people should not be allowed to spread their hate at any funeral. Maybe we all should get together and protest outside their church in a peaceful, manner with OUR signs.
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NormaBishop
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Swisher
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/arizona-to-outlaw-westboro-baptist...
The Arizona state legislature has rushed a bill making it illegal to protest within 300 feet of a funeral for one hour before until one hour after the service.
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Swisher
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NormaBishop
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These people are evil and promote evil, hate, cruelty, torture(emotional)harrassment all in the name of their god.(intentional)
Their god then is evil, hatefull, cruel, approves of torture, harrassment and the intentinal cause of pain and suffering. Not a god I would want to claim. They use GODS name as an excuse to do all of these evil things. They are spreading hate. Isn't there a law against hate crimes? Why can't verbal hate be considered a crime especially when it includes disrupting a little girls funeral with vile, cruel, hate being spewed from the mouthes of these evil people?
HELLS ANGELS, BANDIDOS, rally together to peacefully stop the harrassment of this little girls poor family. - 1 year ago
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NormaBishop
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emarston
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I was able to counter them in Atlanta, it was set up by the local high school and the hundreds of us put the 6 of them to shame. I'm sure this will be the same.
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emarston
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EthicalVegan
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emarston:
I just hope it all goes peacefully, quietly, and with dignity.
Ideally, if the "angels" can block the mother and father's view of those nutcases, that would be a hugely good thing.
I just want it all to be peaceful and respectful for little Christina's family and friends.
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EthicalVegan
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emarston
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EthicalVegan:
For sure, It was peaceful in Atlanta and will be there I'm sure.
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emarston
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coolplanet
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That is SO beautiful!
It brings tears to my eyes.
This human shield idea is a powerful one which could save our planet. - 1 year ago
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coolplanet
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Polskiii
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I say one way ticket to the south pole for the Westboro baptists!
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Polskiii
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coolplanet
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Polskiii:
I was thinking more like straight to hell.
Pity the poor penguins! - 1 year ago
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coolplanet
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protectrworld
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The pathetic thing about "Westboro Church" is that they are using religion and the church as a guise to promote their evil and hatred feelings. God and religion is about love, peace and forgiveness. They are a million miles from anything close to the christian beliefs, or other religions. How dare they add anymore suffering to families and friends of a loss loved one. They are monsters.
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protectrworld
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Armageddon_Now
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Devils will be on the other shoulder.
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Armageddon_Now
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Varex_Sythe
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Forgive my squirrelly ignorance (yes that is a quote, but if you don't know it you'll have to find it on your own), but are graveyards in which funerals are carried out within usually private land or public land? And if they are private land, can't the funeral home have the Westboro Baptist Church Picketers arrested for trespassing?
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Varex_Sythe
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Proud_Progressive
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Varex_Sythe:
Even if it's private land, there will be public land (like a sidewalk) close by.
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zakkred
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im not a hatefull person.but im developing a deep distaste for the westboro baptist church.
and nobody forget they founded god hates fags .com
and they picket GSAs - 1 year ago
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zakkred
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lj111
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when is the "right to the freedom of speech" gone too far
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lj111
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coolplanet
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lj111:
when it threatens the lives of people
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coolplanet
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KSirys
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Smart thing to do! I hope the child's family can have some peace while burying their daughter.
It's bigots like these westboro assholes, that make you want to do all the wrong things.
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KSirys
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DEM46
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These mentally ill people need to put away for good. Anyone believing such shit as these deaths (soldiers, this poor little girl, or anyone else) had anything to do with "Their God" and his/her wishes due to the way American acts need to be institutionalized!
I'd throw away the key and let them rot with "God." !!!!!
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DEM46
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chivideoguy
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Has anyone protested a WBC funeral????
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littlwarrior
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chivideoguy:
Not yet but the day that fred phelps dies I am buying a ticket to Kansas and taken my sign, I hope thousands will come with me.
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Polskiii
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littlwarrior:
Count me in.
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chivideoguy:
not that I know of, but we SHOULD!
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chivideoguy
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Here's how we take care of WBC. We make up a story about a gay catholic soldier that died and his funeral is being held far out to see at a distant island so that "WBC can't get to them" WBC sees this as a taunt and gets a ship for their protesters to get on and heads to the island. After they've all gotten off the boat we take their boat and now it's WBC meets Gilligan's Island.
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DEM46
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chivideoguy:
I like it.
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DEM46
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littlwarrior
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chivideoguy:
I say its a plan, or we could just wait until they are all in church, gas em, and when they wake up they will all have mysteriously appeared on an island in the middle of the pacific. that way they have no way of knowing where they are and how to get away.
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littlwarrior
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littlwarrior
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This just pisses me off. And I know that is what they want, to get a rise, maybe even someone will hurt one of them and they can sue and make a buck, but really these are the people who should be dead not that little girl. Why cant someone go crazy and give them what they deserve?
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DEM46
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littlwarrior:
Unfortunately, we'd have to have Law Enforcement Officers there and they'd probably be the one's who'd get hurt. I know nobody wants that.
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DEM46
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DEM46:
No your right we dont want that, still why do these crazy fucks get better security than a member of congress?
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curtisreed
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this is dispicable. Westboro is a wart on the devil's ass. I think if a parent went ballistic on them and i was on the jury, i'd have to vote not guilty.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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curtisreed:
That is exactly what they are going for. Many of the family members are educated in law and will attempt to provoke others until they elicit a violent response. Then they will sue.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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Dagum
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For a moment there I thought the article was going to say that they are getting protection from the " hells angels". That would have been interesting.
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/1186924080000/00346/hells_DW_Hamburg_Ka_34...
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Dagum
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bailey78
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Dagum:
I was thinking the funeral procession was going to be protected by the Hells Angels. that would be nice of them :)
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Dagum:
I wouldn't be surprised if the hells angels showed up anyways. That would be one hell of an escort.
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Dagum:
I hope one day WBC pickets a Hell's Angel's funeral.
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bertkamp
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Dagum:
I would pay to see that.
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bailey78
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bertkamp:
yep I would leave the house to go to that Shin'Dig.
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bailey78
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SamuraiDave
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"But political persuasions don't matter, she said. Republicans, Democrats, independents, right, left and center -- they've all offered their support."
In a roundabout way those nutjobs at least have united a community in a positive way. Still I'd like the see the Hell's Angels meet them
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SamuraiDave
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cantucwearebrothers
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That's a very innovative way of fighting back. Well done.
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cantucwearebrothers
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noxidereus
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I'm glad people are standing up to that particularly hateful church.
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noxidereus
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Matt_Prater
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First churches rape little kids and now they love when they die. What's next Christians? Your religion disgusts me.
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chivideoguy
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Matt_Prater:
you're mixing Catholic priests and Westboro in with Christians, not the same. Please get your stereotypes right. Thanks!
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chivideoguy
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DEM46
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Matt_Prater:
We can't lump everyone together now. Although, I've seen more harm than good done in "god's" name throughout history. I know many good people who happen to be very religious but I always make the point that this doesn't give them the lock on morality or being good to others. I'm an atheist and I give to charity and care deeply for other humans, animals, etc.
Religion is obsolete and unnecessary in today's world if one is demonstrates how to behave rationally in a civil society.
BTW: I concealed carry much of the time so I can attempt to preempt people who will act irrationally and hurt others.
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DEM46
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Radical_Centrist
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The ONLY Angles that need to meet them are Hells Angles and they SHOULD stomp their butts if they come even close to that little girls funeral!
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Radical_Centrist
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Wolfspade
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Radical_Centrist:
Nicely stated Brother!
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Wolfspade
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Radical_Centrist:
It would be kind of amusing to see the Westboro Baptist Church try to sue members of the Hells Angles, and besides the Hells Angles could pawn it off as good publicity.
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Varex_Sythe
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bike10
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Wonder who funds this inbreeding cult?
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bike10
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fatalvoices
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bike10:
They fund themselves by suing anyone who threatens them with physical violence, or they counter sue those who try to sue them under the freedom to assembly act under the constitution. They're all expert lawyers, the whole thing is a big sham to make money and very, VERY f****d up.
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fatalvoices
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bike10:
A few years ago. I remember reading a story of a father who tried to sue them after they picketed his sons funeral. The Baptist ended up counted suing him for tens of thousands of dollars.
The man lost his son, had the funeral picketed, and lost a great deal of money. With the Baptist laughing in his face the whole way. I remember thinking that in a few weeks there was going a story of the father gunning the Baptist protestors down but I never heard anything. So I guess he took the higher path.
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bertkamp
