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STAND WITH WISCONSIN!!! PLEASE SIGN THIS OPEN LETTER!!!!

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489 comments // STAND WITH WISCONSIN!!! PLEASE SIGN THIS OPEN LETTER!!!!

  • Marianne_Gammon
  • budsnews
  • letsliveinpeace
  • letsliveinpeace
  • letsliveinpeace
  • Liobardo_Martinez_Jr
  • Milieu
    • +1
      Milieu  
    • To steal from the best ( and with apologies to him):

      Oh, where have you been my blue-eyed son,
      Oh, where have you been my darling young one?

      I've been to place to stop the Oligarchy Pigs

    • 1 year ago
  • WakeUpPeople
  • WakeUpPeople
  • ThirdSection
  • letsliveinpeace
  • Aaron_Brutus
  • letsliveinpeace
  • Sz62011
    • +8
      Sz62011  
    • I signed onto Current TV because of Keith Olbermann. I'm glad to see that there are so many others here who believe in progressive causes. Signing the letter is just another step in taking OUR country back!

    • 1 year ago
  • Lisa_Sites
  • patomalley
  • Leen61
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • Leen61
    • 0
      Leen61  
    • Nancy_J_Powell:

      You're welcome Nancy! I liked this video and when you click on the link below the video there are more great pictures and anyone can sign on to stand with the people of WI. That's why I chose to post this. :)

    • 1 year ago
  • letsliveinpeace
  • letsliveinpeace
  • Leen61
  • Leen61
  • samthesixth
    • -6
      samthesixth  
    • There is a difference between a public sector and private sector union. When times are good public unions do well. When times are bad, they could temporarily give back some of the concessions won in the last bargaining session.

    • 1 year ago
  • Milieu
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
    • +6
      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • PREPARE TO MARCH IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IN YOUR CAPITOL! HELP ORGANIZE YOUR LOCAL PROGRESSIVE CHAPTER. THINK ABOUT A NATIONAL MARCH TO WASHINGTON ON MAY 3, COORDINATED WITH A NATIONAL WORK STOPPAGE, 2 DAYS OF PROTEST, WITH A MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS ON THE CAPITOL LAWN, PRESENTING "THE PEOPLE'S LIST OF SUGGESTIONS". WE MUST SAY SUGGESTIONS, INSTEAD OF DEMANDS, SO THAT WE WON'T BE PROSECUTED FOR EXTORTION BY THE REPUBLICANS. IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, PREPARE FOR AN INDEFINITE NATIONWIDE WORK STOPPAGE. INDUSTRY AND COMMERCE ARE NOTHING WITHOUT WORKERS. IF GHANDI DID IT, WE CAN DO IT! WE OWE IT TO OURSELVES, OUR FORBEARS, AND OUR CHILDREN. ORGANIZE NOW.

    • 1 year ago
  • Tim_Patrick
    • +6
      Tim_Patrick  
    • hindotka:

      Perhaps you should enlighten us with the, "Truth." Your comments on this issue aren't constructive, provide no fact or source. It seems you have little idea as to what Collective Bargaining is, the process, and what it is they can and cannot do.

      You really just don't know much about this issue, do you.

    • 1 year ago
  • Conniepae
    • +4
      Conniepae  
    • hindotka:

      Liberal bullshit? And of course brought to you in a liberal news source?

      What are you doing here? It doesn't seem you approve of our liberal news source. Move along! I certainly wouldn't go on a Republican site, if I weren't a Republican. I don't troll!

    • 1 year ago
  • Danny_Mcstotts
    • +2
      Danny_Mcstotts  
    • hindotka:

      Liberal bullshit? You're fascist ass is all over these boards trying to spread your Fascist beliefs that have engraved in your head by faux news, the fat drug addict Rush(ing to the pharmacy), and the Fascist corporate assholes that pay your fascist ass to come on here and spread your fascism

    • 1 year ago
  • 2damax
  • nevergiveup
  • wolfess
  • ReMarker
  • hindotka
  • samthesixth
  • Tim_Patrick
    • +5
      Tim_Patrick  
    • hindotka:

      Are you suggesting that teachers who have Masters and Doctorate degrees should get paid less than doctors and lawyers? What is a fair price to pay for teachers and law enforcement? Are you suggesting that Government employees are somehow lesser citizens?

      $43,496 isn't a lot of money. In my opinion, they should get paid more. I got paid about $50,000 a year as an E-5 w/dependents in the Navy.

      An O-1 gets paid about $50,000 a year and an O-1 is just a punk kid fresh out of college.

      Your logic makes me sick.

    • 1 year ago
  • Conniepae
    • +5
      Conniepae  
    • hindotka:

      You expect government workers to sacrifice, while giving tax breaks to corporations? Something is wrong with that picture. The people in your photograph didn't approve of giving tax breaks to the rich, within a month of the new governor, did they?

    • 1 year ago
  • Danny_Mcstotts
    • +3
      Danny_Mcstotts  
    • hindotka:

      OMG! YOU ARE STILL TRYING TO SAY THAT HOW RIDICULOUS ARE YOU? I've called you out on this 3 times now. ITS NOT POSSIBLE! YOU'RE A PAID RIGHT WING SHILL THAT GOES ON EVERY POLITICAL DISCUSSION BOARD ON THE INTERNET AND SPREAD HIS BULLSHIT!

    • 1 year ago
  • EdJoyProductions
  • 2damax
    • +1
      2damax  
    • hindotka:

      what they should do, is pay people less to build our roads. that way i can enjoy some crappy roads like they do in, watchumacallit? oh yeah, third world countries.

    • 1 year ago
  • ThirdSection
    • +2
      ThirdSection  
    • hindotka:

      You speak as though union laborers in Wisconsin don't pay taxes. I pay taxes and I'm fed up with cretins like you claiming to speak for me. Go back to your cave and suck on a teabag.

    • 1 year ago
  • hindotka
  • nevergiveup
    • +4
      nevergiveup  
    • hindotka:

      So, you're okay with corporate America's rape of the Treasury? You're okay with W's bailout of the Bankstas? You're okay with millions of American jobs being sent offshore? You're okay with tax cuts for the people who don't need them?

      Did you EVER work? If you did, you should be thanking unions for the 5-day work week, overtime, child labor laws, vacation pay, sick leave and more.

      Why DO you hate working people so much. Because YOU DO.

    • 1 year ago
  • Tim_Patrick
  • Danny_Mcstotts
  • tverdell
  • Leen61
  • EthicalVegan
  • Leen61
  • Leen61
    • +5
      Leen61  
    • I'm not on the ground in Madison, but I live in West Allis which is in Milwaukee County. The last I heard is that all Dane County Sheriff's Deputies were told to report to work and Walker still has the National Guard on call. More intimidation tactics. We are expecting a winter storm here tonight into tomorrow. Let's see when the tea baggers arrive today how they will weather the storm and union resistance and how dedicated they will be to their phoney astro turf movement.

    • 1 year ago
  • nevergiveup
    • +4
      nevergiveup  
    • Leen61:

      Snowsttorm or not, Madison IS the eye of the pro-worker storm. Those teabaggers that the Koched-up Brothers are bussing in have NO ideadwhat they are walking into.

      The anti-Vietnam War movement began in Madison in the 1960s. These folks know how to demonstrate and will not take kindly to paid demonstrators brought in by the Koched-up Brothers. The pro-worker demonstrators will eat the teabaggers ALIVE.

    • 1 year ago
  • Leen61
    • +3
      Leen61  
    • nevergiveup:

      You got that right! These are seasoned protestors. No rent-a- scabs here! Let's send Dick Armey, Joe the Plumber (who's not really a plumber) and the Koch fiends a message. Let's party like it's the 1960's!

    • 1 year ago
  • samthesixth
  • thedirtman
    • +6
      thedirtman  
    • In Arizona the GOP thinks everything is for free and that all taxes are extortion. They deny that they benefit from public education and every other public service. There are 3,000 uninhabited islands in the Indonesian archipelago. If they want to live without the benefits of society the opportunity is wide open.

    • 1 year ago
  • Larry_Conley
    • +13
      Larry_Conley  
    • The strongest bond of human sympathy outside the family relation should be one uniting working people of all nations and tongues and kindreds.

      - Abraham Lincoln

      In Wisconsin, 14 Democratic state senators are running risks to ensure "government of the people, by the people, for the people does not perish". Thousands of ordinary citizens are rallying to prevent this gross injustice.

      As Lincoln saved the Union; we, the people, must band and stand together to save the unions. Not merely for them, but for our children, our country, and all that we hold dear.

    • 1 year ago
  • Leen61
  • Larry_Conley
  • Conniepae
  • letsliveinpeace
  • Larry_Conley
    • 0
      Larry_Conley  
    • letsliveinpeace:

      letsliveinpeace - you are spot on. 150 years ago, Abe said it best as he has so often done,

      “We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."

      Of course, Abe was talking about a different Union, and the battlefields were from actual wars, not labor struggles, but the sentiment is precisely what we need. Time and again, the predatory plutocrats and their political minions try to divide us against one another and sheer us like sheep. When the mystic chords vibrate with the touch of our better angels, we realize we are not grazing herbivores, but human beings, with the Spirit of 1776, a part of our heritage. In that moment of realization of who we are and where we come from, comes another epiphany - "United we soar! Divided we stall." As in the 1860's, 150 years later, the Union makes us strong!

    • 1 year ago
  • Miguel_Teixeira
  • EmileZ
  • EmileZ
  • nevergiveup
  • EmileZ
  • EmileZ
  • EmileZ
  • Larry_Conley
    • 0
      Larry_Conley  
    • EmileZ:

      You raise a point, and you have a point. May I observe for my own part, "Deep in my heart, I do believe" that Black, White, Red, Yellow, and Brown, together, "we shall overcome one day!"

      Let we here be dedicated to the unfinished work remaining before us and keep on with the keeping on!

    • 1 year ago
  • coxian_armada
    • +6
      coxian_armada  
    • yes unions do have problems but is there any other alternatives which is not at all problematic?? humans always mean problem so should we just annihilate humans.........NO!!!!!!!!!!

    • 1 year ago
  • JonRaymond
  • Conniepae
    • +1
      Conniepae  
    • JonRaymond:

      I hope it back fires in their faces and more unions are created. Corporate America has benefited from the demise of past unions. They ship the jobs to other countries, while living the life of luxury in ours. If they want to ship our jobs to other countries for cheap labor, get the hell out, or pay to stay.

      Political campaigns suck the life blood out of many corporations. They spend what would be profit to influence our elections, then take what should be reinvested as profit. Blame it on the poor? I don't think so!

    • 1 year ago
  • letsliveinpeace
  • Mr_Brainwash
  • Danny_Mcstotts
  • Mr_Brainwash
  • PeteLeS33
  • Mr_Brainwash
    • +1
      Mr_Brainwash  
    • PeteLeS33:

      No cable. I've only seen one clip online from him. And I was talking more like Current member reporter lol. I'm ready to go to WI I just need somebody to meet me in Madison and show me around, etc.

    • 1 year ago
  • Conniepae
  • Leen61
  • 3reddogs
    • +4
      3reddogs  
    • Conniepae:

      I'm in northeast Ohio. Just got home from a dog food run at a store that only sells the premium organic stuff. Got to chatting with one of the ladies that works there on week-ends to help make ends meet. She's been a school teacher for 32 years and, like me, she was planning on retiring this year. Now, thanks to OUR Republican governor and legislature, she's about to lose her pension and any hope of retiring. A whole group of her co-workers are getting on a bus on Monday (school holiday) and heading to Columbus. She said they've all been inspired by what's happening in Madison. I'm still in tears thinking about what they're trying to do to tens of thousands of Ohioans just like her.

    • 1 year ago
  • Conniepae
    • +2
      Conniepae  
    • 3reddogs:

      It is sad indeed. Many worked their entire careers confident they would be able to retire some day. I can't believe they now have to fight for the right to retire, after a career of teaching our children.

      Do you realize our representatives get retirement for life, complete with health care after they leave office? These same individuals who are wanting to take away pensions and collective bargaining from teachers, fire fighters and police are guaranteed retirement and healthcare.

    • 1 year ago
  • Nancy_J_Powell
  • EthicalVegan
  • SFirman
    • 0
      SFirman  
    • 3reddogs:

      My daughter-in-law, granddaughter and her husband are school teachers. They are worried about there pension, health care. It didn't take our new govener long to screw the people. The republicans that voted for him will pay for this wrong.

    • 1 year ago
  • Donnamharrison
    • +10
      Donnamharrison  
    • Soooo proud of Wisconsin. Walker is a dictator puppet of the extreme right wing. Again tax breaks for the rich,take from the workers. Soon there will be no middle class.... Always after teachers, who work there asses off and give much of their own pay back into the classroom.
      Why does the U.S. not value children's education? It is a treasured and valued profession in Europe and Asia. And Walkers is after ANY union,cops,firefighters,nurses,etc next. Politicians,give us what you have! Your pension,your healthcare,then maybe the protest will end.
      Spent every summer in Wisc,living in Ill. Thrilled the Dems are in my hometown of Rockford,Ill.for the duration.I hope this weekend brings 100,000 this weekend.
      Stay strong, Wisconsin!

    • 1 year ago
  • Leen61
  • hanskloss
    • 0
      hanskloss  
    • Donnamharrison:

      The US does value its children, but the Corrupted Rich DON'T!

      The Politicians are NOT representing the people, but the Corrupted Rich but are agents of The BANKERS.
      THE ROTHCHILDS.

      The Government of USA is an enemy entity which, turned on its people.

      The media are on it. The media are in the hands of the handfull corporations. 4 corps in USA hold like 90% of the media.

      We must stop asking agents of evil to bail us out of its very hand. We have to cut this hand OFF!

      My parents are teachers... ;)

      Pawel Kolasa

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
  • Conniepae
  • Leen61
  • samthesixth
  • dadevil
  • JohnA
  • hanskloss
    • +10
      hanskloss  
    • You DO realize that, the 13 trillion dollars of supposed debt, is owed to FEDERAL RESERVE, right? right?

      You DO realize that, the banks lend you YOUR OWN MONEY? right? right?

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
    • +18
      jubal  
    • Raising taxes and cutting defense are the two best options instead of destroying unions, but the real reason that the unions are under attack is because the banks don't want to pay out the pension funds of our public servants...the real public servants that are our firemen, our bus drivers, etc...all the people that keep our cities and counties and states going...their money. The banks are broke they got a bail out and now they don't want to have to pay out all those pension funds.

      Wake up people and connect the dots...this is a huge propaganda scheme to demonize unions and suggest that all the economic problems are their fault.

    • 1 year ago
  • nevergiveup
    • +4
      nevergiveup  
    • jubal:

      I think that we learned a lot from watching Egypt in the past few weeks. It's awakened us fromm our sedated state of "What can we do." We can change our country and take it back from the Rethugs and Teabaggers (isn't Walker a Teabagger?)who hate working people, the poor, the elderly and the needy.

    • 1 year ago
  • hindotka
  • samthesixth
  • Danny_Mcstotts
  • hanskloss
    • 0
      hanskloss  
    • jubal:

      1. Raising taxes is not best option. The best option is to abolish Federal Reserve, which prints money and LENDS it to government at usury interest. Which is illegal in Constitution.

      Please stop fighting which, of US ABUSED citizens should pay bigger RAKE to the thieving bankers.

      Just get those bankers OUT of business!

      2. Rotten Capitalists will of course demonize any labour movement, unions or otherwise.
      Would you believe a THIEF's advice?

      Media are capitalist tool. No dignity or integrity. Telling Americans how stupid they are and that they are only preoccupied in soaps, trailer park "reality" shows and softness of toiler paper tissue!

      3. GROW UP AND GROW A SPINE! 14.5 billion is OWED to Americans from private corporation called deceptively Federal Reserve. It's neither Federal nor it's a Reserve, but a private bank, which illegally prints money and lends it to government in a PONZI SCHEME since 1913.

      In 1910 USA debt was 1 billion. In 2010 it was 14 trillion.

      This scheme is based on COMPOUND interest, and it's against Conservation of Engergy Law and MUST CRASH. It crashes NOW as we speak!

    • 1 year ago
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