Breaking News: Budget Deal Reached, Announces House Speaker John Boehner

We didn't lose a budget battle. Boehner did and the tea party is very upset with him.

The Tea party wanted more. But it's more cutting than has been done in the past. It's not enough. But it's a start. Boehner is still be heralded today by the mainstream media as a leader who pulled his party together.

Since the House is responsible for appropriations they tend to get blamed if there's a shutdown. The result has the Republicans winning some and living to fit a bigger fight.

I already posted my beliefs on how the Republicans are going to use these "small" cuts against the Democrats next year.

Next battle: the debt ceiling

Yes it was a large spending cut. Boehner needed to pull his party together. Democrats also won some. It would be nice if they could always give and take. Yes, the debt ceiling. I hope Boehner can pull them together again. The US can't pay it's bills if they don't raise it. The US economy will fall, some say world economy could fall if we default.

You really need some help...

Shit this is nothing... Go to my article and read the latest.... We are Not Alone is my latest article.... There are others far worse than Warren....

I wonder if you have even one friend in real life? You point of view on almost everything you post seems like getting a kick out of peeing in the pool. I would never eat at your table and I suspect very few people do.

When Richard Nixon was running for a second term v George McGovern, a heck of a lot of folks thought McGovern actually had a chance. He didn't. Not at all, not ever.

I shared those delusional beliefs in those days. Belief in fairy tales like that frequently comes from ignorance of the facts that only carefully listening to one's adversaries will remedy. Warren_Merrill seems to be an unusually articulate and nonreactive spokesman for the evil empire, though I do not detect anything like evil intent in his posts. At worst, he has bought into the establishment perspective hook, line, and sinker. Perhaps he's got it made and fears losing his security, whatever it is. Sadly, he's an example of Mother Teresa's words: "It's a shame children must die for you to live the way you live."

But if we don't hear what folks like Warren_Merrill say and engage them constructively, this blog is not much more than a circle jerk.

In the beginning I respected your points of view even though I disagreed with most of them. I was thinking last night you were starting to get personal. You can't attack the message so you've gone after the messenger. That isn't working. You can't fluster me. So now you're going to work on censorship. Typical liberal. The only reason I could be agitating is the possibility I'm right when I question the thought process on posts and threads.

You can't attack the message with intelligent debate so you attack the messager. It's a typical liberal tactic. You don't need to be concerned for my social life.

Part of this post makes sense. I have no desire to go to a right leaning board and do a group hug. It wouldn't be challenging. It would be boring. That is until the discussion turns to social issues and many of the posters think I'm a "freak'n liberal." This site makes me do more research and think deeper. I know I'll get slaughtered if I make a mistake. I went to a MoveOn rally to observe. I never would have gone had I not come across this site. I probably wouldn't have noticed it on the news either. No one on this site has changed my mind on any issues. I probably haven't changed anyone's mind either. But if we all spent time thinking through the debate it's interesting.

Your right of coarse, but i get so mad. I will try.

Cut out military!!! Yes it may have an immediate negative impact on people.

What PEOPLE??? Do you mean the innocent bystanders who are being Murdered with no consent???

Another message will be sent in 2012. The congress will be back.with Obama.

The message in November 2010 was not pro-Republican, it was a repudiation of Democratic weakness. The voters elected Obama and the Democratic congress in 2008 to kick ass, but they turned out to be unbelievably weak and impotent.

The American voter will elect strong bad people over weak good people almost every time. And you are right, Obama didn't get the message nor did congressional Democrats - Obama was always a Neocon elitist, and can you believe the Democrats kept their ineffectual House and Senate leaders? Amazing!

On the other hand, to believe spending cuts and tax cuts will fix the problem is obtuse, and obtuseness that Obama shares with the Neocons and other of the assorted greedy.

"The message in November 2010 was not pro-Republican, it was a repudiation of Democratic weakness. The voters elected Obama and the Democratic congress in 2008 to kick ass, but they turned out to be unbelievably weak and impotent."

This is a classic example of what I described on this site ... seeing the world through the taint of your political glasses. Obama and Democrats were not voted in to kick ass. McCain with the Bush doctrine along with Republicans were tossed out over the economy and the appearance of an endless war in the Middle East. In 2010 Democrats were tossed because the agenda was too far to the left ... ObamaCare.

The right and the left don't decide elections. Independents and moderates decide elections. For the most part they vote two issues, their bank account and a missle landing on their head. Regan came up with the best campaign slogan ever. "Are you better off than four years ago?" This is what it's all about for the middle who decide elections.

In 1996 I voted for Clinton. I saw the mix of a Republican Congress and a Democratic president was working versus Dole who lacked a coherent message.

Yes, all of our perspectives are influenced by our understandings. It's not necessary to stigmatize this by use the negative "taint" instead of the more accurate and less pregnant term "colored." If works for all of us, you included.

Agreed that the war and economy were motivating influences that caused the swing vote to put Obama and a Democratic congress in control in 2008. But in control to do what? My opinion is that the swing vote wanted to see some ass kicked over the war and economy, and they were treated to the disgusting spectacle of a weak and disorganized majority Party subordinated by a strong, organized minority Party. The Carter/Reagan and Kerry/Bush phenomenon. Similar to the Nazi Party emerging from the chaos of Weimar. The disorganized weaklings get thrown out.

Your note about personal greed is well taken ("...the best campaign slogan ever...)." A swing segment of the vote probably only cares about themselves, and if we have to wage wars of aggression against soverign states who our leaders assign economic significance (e.g. oil) to make sure the swing vote think they're better off, they're all for that. For these people, children must die.

Most people want to be secure themselves first. I found once I was secure I could do a lot for other people without the help (cough, gag) of the government.

President Obama's chance of re-election seems very good considering the lack of interest on the right for taking him on in 2012.
So far we have Michele Bachman as a maybe and Trump playing media whore.
Most of the other players work for fox "news" and don't want to give up the paycheck yet, but no serious contenders.

The president also saved defunding of planned parenthood, health care and making sure our water and air is safe. The republicans did not get the 100 billion in cuts the teaparty demanded. The president stood strong on these issues. We all know we have to cut spending. Did it go in the pockets of the wealthy? We don't know every detail of what was cut yet. Durning the Lame duck the president did agree to renew Bush tax cuts for two years. I didn't like this either, but he extended the middle class tax cuts that he gave after he took office. He got a payroll tax cut and extended unemployment. Our government doesn't work if there is not some give and take. I give him credit for standing for what he believed down to the last hour. It is Boehner that didn't get what he wanted and the tea party is very upset with him.

I saw your reply but don't know where it went... I think the dems Do stand by their beliefs but it only seems that way on TV. I think behind closed doors, they are all the same.. =(

His re-election prospects are irrelevant when considering his spineless approach to policy

Thanks!

Your welcome.

I couldn't agree with you more!

You are so right! Obama will have killed every progressive policy by the time he has another four years to cow-tow to the republicans. Weiner for president...or Sanders...or somebody with gonades PLEASE!

Obama? Reminds me of Clinton, though I still believe he was a Republican plant......clever and devious those GOP scum. Old Clinton has been spending a lot of time with Bush senior, but not so much with Jimmy Carter. Think about it.

Yup. +1^

So the forces of evil only had a smaller victory than they might otherwise have had. It's still a loss for the American citizen. Sure, these losses are only incremental - one small step for Republican elitists, but in the aggregate these small increments are a giant step for the Neocon agenda.

"Middle class" tax cuts? "Middle class" tax cuts mitigates tax cuts for the wealthy and ultrawealthy? The only folks who believe in tax cuts to fix the deficit problem are the wealthy themselves, and perhaps a few suckers who believe in the "trickle down" theories of quacks like George Gilder.

All those folks have jobs and can afford to pay taxes. Have you heard: families are being kicked out of their foreclosed homes in record numbers? Unemployment is close to 10% officially, and 20%+ if you count folks who gave up or are underemployed in the slave labor market.

If the Right were to choose now they would not be able to take into account activity to come in the next year. With things so volatile, how could the Neocon soul of Republican leadership possibly know who to run?

It's way too early to call, but Obama might just turn out to be unelectable, in which case we may blunder into a disaster. Not Palin, probably, but who knows? Boehner, maybe even? Gingrich?

We'll see.

Whether Republicans (or even me) like them or not the only legitimate candidates are Romney, Palenty, Huckabee and Huntsman. I'm sure they're evaluating their chances. Maybe the Republicans are colluding to decide who the candidate should be rather than beating each other up and speding a lot of money before the presidential race starts.

If Trump runs it will only to be for the purpose of beating on Obama to create negatives the way Perot did to Dad Bush in 1992. I don't believe Trump is running to the front of the pack as a favorite as the polls suggest. I believe people are just amused by his antics at the present time.

Ronald Regan and Tip O'Neil were buddies. They beat on each other politically then dined together.

"Unemployment is close to 10% officially, and 20%+ if you count folks who gave up or are underemployed in the slave labor market."

It was 7% and 12% when Obama took office. 9% and 20% certainly is change.

Recent polls have shown Obama would lose against a generic Republican. It's a statement against Obama. But it doesn't take into account who the Republican might be. I like Palin as a cage rattler on the issues. But I don't think I could vote for her for President.

link to those polls, please

Read Tip O'Neil's biography "Man of the House." I would not say O'Neil and Reagan were "buddies." Tolerant, non-reactive, collegial, decent...but not "buddies."

My figures are from Agora Financial, but I don't have a link. I don't think your figures are correct. Do you have useful links?

I heard it on the news (not a talk show) on the radio. I didn't catch which poll or polls.

I strongly believe that tax cuts for the middle class and small business kept our economy from depression.It doesn't fix the debt, but when there's extra money to spend it does, has helped the economy.i agree with you on the trickle down effect.Reaganomics didn't work. The Bush tax cuts hasn't worked. I strongly believe that giving the wealthy and big industry more tax cuts doesn't work. They need to fix the loop holes and make them pay there fair share,
If they keep giving in to them and control spending on the back of the poor and seniors is a crime. Yes the housing market is a mess. Some from greed of wall street and some from people that bought homes they couldn't afford. Unemployment is still bad but not as bad as it was two years ago. Who's going to create jobs for all the unemployed? Big Industry is sitting on enough money to create jobs, but will it be in this country?

Believe? Based on what, exactly? There's data? Or just "theory?"

Theory propounded by the folks who benefit from the real tax cuts, perhaps? Or theory subscribed to by fans of political movie stars (Obama, Boehner, Gingrich, you name it) who want to believe what their guru says is true?

How about this: Republican tax cuts, which coincidentally disproportionately benefit Republicans (by golly!), are actually largely responsible for the deficit bomb and the recession/depression. Now there's a theory for you.

It was pretty audacious to have hoped for change, but there you have it. So you're not voting for Obama next time around?

I'm thinking they're not anxious to blow their one shot at the White House on this race.

It' a fact Reaganomics did not work. His economy fell. It is a fact the Bush tax cuts has not worked. The economy fell. not theory. The people i know were happy with both of Obama's tax cuts. Extra money to spend. Not theory.

You added Boehner, Giingrich with Obama as movie stars. None are that,but as a Democrat Obama is the closest that I will vote for.

I do like your theory that Republicans are responsible for the deficit and the recession, we entered under Bush, fact, not theory.

To this point none of them are outstanding candidates. I wish Romney would just admit RomneyCare was a bad idea rather than differentiating it from ObamaCare. Another problem, for the party, not me is he's pro choice.

I think best bet cons have is Ron Paul, his anti-military stance could attract people from the left and center. Or maybe Sen Brown from Mass., he has at least shown compromise on DADT.

Yes the shutdown was a big conspiracy to keep us from rebelling. It is the one thing that Republicans and Democrats finally came together on, and they kept it a secret from the entire country. We need to rise up and oppose health care, credit card debt, and low taxes. This is exactly the kind of fascism that inspired those in the Mid East.

I hate to break this to you, but rebellion under the current administration is probably on the Republican's list of things to do. That is why a record number of guns were purchased when President Obama was sworn in.

You want to oppose health care? In other words it's alright with you if the sick die to lack of care or go bankrupt becaue they can't pay there health care bills. When you say low taxes, who has low taxes that need raised? Credit card debt? If you run your credit cards up to where you can't pay them, that's your fault. Record number of guns bought when President Obama was sworn in? What do you mean by that?

The boost in gun purchases occurred when Obama initially appeared to be far left. People were concerned there would be an attack on the second amendment.

OH so that explains why they did not get their deal on Planned parenthood, the $63B in tax cuts and why the Tbggers are pissed with crying Boner and even his own minions are pissed off with him in the Rep party!! Yep that sounds like he won that fight with his ass laying on the mat knocked out. Yes you folks won! LOL. LOL. You folks are so vapid and ready to fool yourselves into believing you won! Congrats! LOL.

hmmm... how terribly wrong you are... americans hatred for republicans is at an all time high. and americans are not ok with medicare and medicaid and social security being stripped. americans are not ok with schools being shut down. and americans are generally tired of republicans hurting the little guy. if you have any polls that actually say what you are implying, by all means, please share. and if you think that boehner whooping reids ass means meeting in the middle, then sure, thats what happened.

"hmmm... how terribly wrong you are... " yeah that happens a lot with oppressed1.

The 63 billion compared to 39 billion is pennies to the federal government. This is about the up or down vote on obama care.

"Great Society?" You mean LBJ's domestic programs? Didn't help him much in the primaries, did it?

I don't understand why you are being voted down. You're absolutely right about Boehner whipping Reid. After the whipping the Democrats got in the 2010 elections because of their obnoxious weakness and lack of honorable cohesion, can you believe Democrats KEPT the same impotent leadership that America voted down? Weakness AND stupidity.

So, even though I have seen you here as one of Satan's demented prancing minions, that doesn't mean you're wrong here. In fact, I voted you up, not that it helped much.

As you observe, the time is ripe to "dismantle" programs of the "libs," and redirect all the resources upstairs to further enrich the already wealthy.

Of course, children will die at the hands of you and yours, but war is war and there's always collateral damage, right?

Good Morning tlbuffin Way too Funny....=)

Good comment.

Thanks, Will Do....

I'm not ok with SS, Medicare and Medicaid being stripped. Republicans do hurt the middle class. Thanks for your comment.

Boehner didn't whip Reid. The tea party is upset with him for giving up to much. It's the republicans that are enriching the wealthy. The president and Reid should be given credit for a win.

They arnt going to take the medicare away from those little old ladies. Its your generation that they are taking it away from.

Oppressed why are you oppressing your mind? YOUR GUYS DID NOT WIN. GET IT? Stop with the nonsense because you know this but just trying to take the egg off your face with your farce of a post. What you need to do is go on a collection drive and buy Boner a few shamwow's for his tears because tissue would be to expensive and too many trees would die to cover his tears.

Persecuted they don't know or want to know so pity them. They live in a neither world type of existence; an self created Avatar in their minds so the truth is not something they want to accept, understand or even hear.

Your correct. middle aged or old, little old ladies are going to get him.Not to mention family members that stand up for there parents.

ROTFLMAO! TL please stop! LOL! Didn't I tell you I was not feeling well? LOL.

actually, the whole thing hung on planned parenthood... stripping healthcare from women... this is an actual fact at this point.

No. Liberals hatred for Republicans is at an all time high.

If the legislation passes Medicare is not going to change for anyone already on Medicare or anyone who is already 55 unless they want to go with the new plan.

Medicare is not a good deal. You pay into it for all the years you work (about 45 years), when you become eligible about $100 is taken out of Social Security for it monthly and then it's so full of holes a supplement costing $100 to $200 a month is needed. And what does ObamaCare do? It eliminates MedAdvantage which provides an adequate low price supplement. The elimination of MedAdvantage is the 500B cut ObamaCare takes from Medicare. Please explain how a 500B cut from Medicare that eliminates a decent $0 to $50 cost for a supplement is good for seniors on fixed incomes.

The tea party isn't thrilled with Boehner. But he did bring his party together to get it done. Since the House is responsible for appropriations a shutdown gets blamed on the party in power. The Republicans can use how it played out in the 2012 elections to get a Republican Senate.

egypt doesnt have oil... the story took our minds off what the politicians were doing for a while... it did its job... we focus on what they tell us to focus on

Only the Sheeple BAAAAAaaaaaaaaa

current links, please

HERE,HERE!!

G,E, Pay taxes?? AHA HA HA HA thats never going to happen.

You nailed it!

Loved the comment!

Astutely put.

Even if points had not been deducted for lateness, it still would have gotten an F.

Might have been were it not for the Republican obsession with and abuse of the filibuster.