Fox contributor: Female soldiers should 'expect' to be Raped
By Eric W. Dolan Monday, February 13, 2012 19:18 EST
Fox News contributor Liz Trotta on Monday suggested women serving alongside male service members should expect to be raped and complained about the money spent on women who are “now being raped too much.”
Trotta appeared on Fox to discuss new Department of Defense rules allowing women to serve in more than 14,000 jobs that had been off-limits to female soldiers. They still cannot join infantry, armor or special forces units, however. “But we have women once more, the feminist, going, wanting to be warriors and victims at the same time,” she said.
“Defense Secretary Leon Panetta commented on a new Pentagon report on sexual abuse in the military,” Trotta added. “I think they have actually discovered there is a difference between men and women. And the sexual abuse report says that there has been, since 2006, a 64% increase in violent sexual assaults. Now, what did they expect? These people are in close contact, the whole airing of this issue has never been done by Congress, it’s strictly been a question of pressure from the feminist.”
She then noted that the budget of the Defense Department’s Sexual Assault Prevention and Response Office increased from $5 million in 2005 to more than $23 million in 2010.
“So, you have this whole bureaucracy upon bureaucracy being built up with all kinds of levels of people to support women in the military who are now being raped too much,” Trotta remarked.
“Well, many would say that they need to be protected, and there are these sexual programs, abuse programs, are necessary,” co-anchor Eric Shawn interjected, but to no avail.
“That’s funny, I thought the mission of the Army, and the Navy, and four services was to defend and protect us, not the people who were fighting the war,” Trotta responded.
Watch video, clipped by Media Matters, below: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/13/fox-contributor-on-women-raped-in-the-military-what-did-they-expect/
"Did she say women are being 'Raped Too Much'???" WTF is going on Here!!!!! =(
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MotherForTruth
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My opinion will be unpopular one here on Current but as many know I am not afraid of voicing unpopular opinions. First off I do not believe anyone should be abused, or raped. Having said that, a woman myself, I am offended of so many laws that treat all women as weak and unprotected creatures who are supposedly are consistently victimized. I am sick and tired of how women are being robed of all personal responsibilities of making decisions, learning from bad decisions, and gaining skills to protect themselves.
I also no longer believe majority of rape claims, when the definition of rape has been expended to include a disappointed or dissatisfied outcome of consensual sex it really minimizes the true claims of rape.
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KB723
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MotherForTruth:
Not unpopular by any means, I greatly appreciate your input... =)
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MotherForTruth:
I seriously believe I could not defend myself against any soldier. I cannot understand why you would believe a majority of rape claims are false. I feel the reported rapes are much lower due to women who cannot bear to put themselves through the long process of a trial, or because their rape was by a family member or because they are so terrified. Now, that is just my opinion.
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MotherForTruth:
Agree with some of your points although, no woman should expect to be sexually abused just because they join a tradionally male careerfield. I realize you' re not saying this but way too much abuse has happened in the military because it is male dominated and many of these men are similar to rapist jocks in Hs or college.
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DEM46
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sunny1:
I have a very strong friend who was sexually abused in the Army by another soldier who happed to be much older and was a senior sargent. This is far too common and should not be dismissed. It goes on all the time!
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DEM46
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DEM46:
People don't seem to know rape is an act of violence. A violation. It destroys all sense of safety and security. I too believe it happens all the time. More (men or women) victims would come forward if they had any faith in the legal system.
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MotherForTruth
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sunny1:
Studies report 50% of rape claims are false. Many people still believe we are living in 50's but times have changed and American women are much more dominating gender. American women are often more aggressive then men.
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MotherForTruth
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MotherForTruth
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KB723:
Thank you :)
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MotherForTruth
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MotherForTruth
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sunny1:
To help real victims of rape our judicial system must recognize and punish all of the false accusers.
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DEM46:
Gender equality does not mean female should be doing jobs she may not be physically able to do. I have seen female firefighter struggling with fire hydrant hookup, and unable to carry the equipment and needing a physically larger male firefighter come to her rescue, a female unable to do the same military duties because unable to carry the needed equipment.
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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MotherForTruth:
Each branch of the service has different standards for men and women.
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MotherForTruth:
Well, let's see. First I do not believe in "studies". It has been very clear to me that most selective studies of this sort can obtain any result they wish. It is really just a matter of what you ask in the study and who the agency or criminal system you ask. You may read the result of a study to be valid in many ways but I am very suspicious of any study that 50% of anything is true. You may think that American women are often more aggressive then men, I think many women are now more assertive than they used to be. Again this is my opinion. Thanks for the spirited discussion.
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MotherForTruth
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Truthitswhatsfordinner:
True, I would want a couple of strong men come to my rescue.
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KB723
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MotherForTruth:
Quite Welcome... =)
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KB723
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warman1138
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I expect Liz to go jump off a cliff....rape is a crime, crimes get reported and criminals get prosecuted and go to jail. What part of the word crime does Liz not undestand? It's crap that morons like Liz spews that empowers hate and injustice and disempowers women. If the cost of dealing with something goes up it it indicates something is seriously wrong.....Liz is an idiot, no wonder she's a FOX contributer.
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warman1138:
I don't think she contributed anything more than a good reason she should move to radio... =)
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KB723
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nardo1224
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I hope Liz gets raped by all her male correspondent buddies, anally, vaginally, orally and up her fucking nose!
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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nardo1224:
That is so wrong. Wishing violence and rape on anybody is not cool.
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Private Joker do you believe in the Virgin Mary ?
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Timebandit:
LOL!!! Good Job Friend... =)
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KB723
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Anonmaly
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............... I can barely respond to this without being totally hateful so......
Suffice it to say she's WRONG!!!
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Anonmaly
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KB723
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Anonmaly:
Fair Enough...
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KB723
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ThresholdBroken
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Expect dat shit if yo bitchass is in da military my niggah.
LOL
Being civilized in the military.... what an oxymoron.
Be a killing machine, BUT! be kind and respectful to others. - 3 months ago
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ThresholdBroken:
Umm yeah
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bailey78
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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I thought Fox News did not broadcast hate. I guess when you advocate the assassination of Barack Obama, that gains you credibility.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste:
They should be Ashamed, but thy never are, makes me feel sorry for their children...
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duzins:
For sure. FYI: DemocracyNow did a lengthy segment on this back on Jan. 30, focused on victim interviews.
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ThirdSection
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duzins:
Check out these surefire tips I found for preventing sexual assault:
https://feministphilosophers.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/preventing-sexual-assault-...
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ThirdSection:
Nice list. +^d
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duzins:
All of them regardless of their chosen orientation, Thanks for dropping by duzins, Voted Up, cos I feel the same!!! =)
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ThirdSection:
Cool, Thanks ThirdSection... =)
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duzins:
Dream on Lady !
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Tayllerand:
I tried to not reply to this comment, but please show some Respect!!! Thanks...
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duzins:
The Union of Narcoleptic Nymphomaniacs might beg to differ...
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KB723:
I do show some respect but maybe you misunderstood my comment, I'm very sorry , I will never participate in your forums anymore , thank you for letting me know.
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duzins:
We should demand no sexual assaults.
Does protecting soldiers extend to not deploying women in certain situations where they are more likely to be sexually assaulted?
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Tayllerand
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Private Joker do you believe in the virgin Mary ?
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Sexual harassment and rape it's the daily bread on the war, but the government is keeping it quiet. If the army abused the prisoners in Abu Graib prison for many months, you think they are going to report about women abuse in the army. keep on dreaming !
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Mitekillem1
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On a more serious note. It's amazing the mentality of the people at Fox. They are always the victim. Which makes it okay for them to demonize other victims...because only they can be the victim.
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Mitekillem1:
I can't stand the things they tell their viewers, cos many of them believe this Manure...
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Mitekillem1
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This is no woman....She's a MAN, baby! YEAH!!!
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Mitekillem1:
LMAO!!! =)
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KB723
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ThirdSection
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Nobody, male or female, should "expect to be raped" anywhere they go. Nobody "asks for it," implicitly or explicitly, either. If a male soldier does rape a female soldier, he should be punished like any other criminal, period.
/issue.
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ThirdSection:
I am unable to disagree ThirdSection...
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Slfriend79
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OMG, all I can say is...Liz Trotta, Today's Worst Person In The World. >:-(
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Slfriend79:
Yep. I don't see how Countdown tonight can miss this lady.
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Slfriend79:
Agreed!!! =)
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rerushg
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Just as with LGBT issues, the Right wants to define "different-ok" versus "different-not-ok" and force everyone into their definitions.
I would also argue that the complete abandonment of moral integrity in our "War on Terror" has undermined morality in all areas. Abu Ghraib Prison, Bagram Prison, rendition, torture, and indiscriminate killing of innocents undermine a soldier's sense of morality. The hawks might say, "that's just war", but for troops in or close to the shi*t it's just FUBAR. As we saw in Viet Nam, when it goes FUBAR all sense of ethical and moral behavior degrades rapidly. Throughout history women have served well in ethical conflict. When it gets barbarian they often become victims, whichever side they're on. - 3 months ago
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rerushg:
Very True....
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Who the hell is Liz Trotta? Oh wait, this is the same bimbo who publicly wished for an Obama assassination. I love the way the imbeciles at Fox always find some loud-mouthed simpleton to echo their idiocy. Fox lives in a world of black and white television, and Liz honey, Walter would not be proud of you.
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Incredulous:
Walter must be rolling in his grave, Fox is not a News channel, and they have No Shame... =(
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Incredulous:
Maybe in her case these are symptom of agent orage exposure during her time in the asian wars...
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She must have repeated feminist or feminism 20 times, as though it repulsed her. Men never get raped in the military? She also mentioned "close contact". We're in close contact with people every day, especially in the workplace. Does that mean that feminist working in close contact should expect to get raped? You know, trying to figure out these close minded types with blinders on will just make your head hurt.
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FreeSpiritMuse:
Perhaps the main reason I never watch Fox News...
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KB723:
Same here.
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FreeSpiritMuse:
I only watch the Simpsons, surprised Matt Groening still airs on Fox...
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Since I doubt any male would dip into this broads gene pool she may be jealous.But wouldn`t the being raped too much make folks like Rick Santorum happy? Afterall he claims that babies born of rape are gifts from God! Onward Christian Soldiers,an army of gifts from God!(sarcasm fully intended).
Where in perdition do they find these schlubs,is there not one sane,even minded adult on the right? I will bet any taker $1 that if Barack Obama had a brain fart and agreed to everything the Plutocrats wanted the right would turn it down saying it can`t work because the President proposed it!
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EarnestT:
Yes I saw that interview with Santorum... The things these people say... =(
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seriously?
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Andover:
It's Fox. Serious? Yep. Rational? Never.
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rerushg:
never
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Some day we will have to grow up.
We should be able to share bathrooms and showers but we lack the maturity.Personally, I don't think women should be in combat positions because I believe there is a difference in the genders, but not for this reason.
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tverdell:
Agree completely.
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OK guys, open mind time... take a look here http://current.com/community/93663225_this-item-was-marked-as-spam-so-it-has-bee...
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
LIKE OH MY GAWD!
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Liz Trotta -- perhaps you will get your wish for yourself -- oh, wait, she works at places where there are no men.
Well, damn.
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Milieu:
That's so wrong.
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Perhaps I'm just not taking this seriously enough. Liz Trotta feels cheated. She deserves her share of that 23 million back. At about 300,000,000 people in this country I calculate her share to be about 7 cents... About the cost of one piece of Starburst Candy from a roll.
It's true that I simply can't relate to Trotta here. I feel fortunate to be able to see that my 7 cents goes to preventing rape, and having women free to defend the nation against our enemies, if they choose.
I wish some of my medical co-pays were 7 cents.
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overide
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Yikes - someone should smush her.
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artemis6
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Well , now , THAT just makes me WANT to join the military .... ?!*
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artemis6:
Maybe not a good idea???
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KB723:
Not at all .
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if she with the washington times, she is a dumbass. good post kb723.
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cherry5000:
LOL!!! Thanks cherry5000... =)
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I usually ignore these stories as just being partisan nonsense, a strange comment blown way out of proportion, but this was no exaggeration.
This woman is actually insinuating that those women deserved to be raped.
There are no words. Even the fucking news anchor was dumbstruck, he looked like he was about to puke. Of course, being on FOX News, he wasn't allowed to say a damn word.
Pathetic and disgusting.
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Saladin:
Happy to have changed your mind and equally Disgusted!!!
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Saladin:
We've been trying to tell you all, watch them Fox news folks, they's crazy!
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
Identicial cat right here in front of me. Same look.
Oh and that was just what I thought when I saw KB7236s' clowns. Cannot be un-seen
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Saladin:
"expect" or "deserve"?
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Liz Trotta owes the people of the Department of Defense an apology here. She has insinuated that a need for over 300% increase in budget expenditures are due to the degenerating conduct of men, and the presence of women in the Armed forces.
In reality, SAPRO wasn't even conceived until 2004, and did not have a permanent office until late 2005. Of course, the budget had to increase!
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thedirtman:
This to her is what the people have to say at the rising cost of living expenses, just my opinion, but I do not have Millions of someone elses money to throw around...
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KB723:
I think we squeeze $23mil outta the MIC $750,000,000,000 budget!
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Naw... I want the 760 Billion that Sh*tHead took when he left office!!!
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
Sorry but I gotta hollar an Amen! at myself for that... I know I know...
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
A Pat on the Back TWK, I voted it up as well.. =)
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Go to C-span and listen to Panetta. He said 2010 34,000 reported sexual attacks and 80% of attacks are not reported. YOU do the MATH.
Panetta also said 2006 42,000 sex attacks within USA military.
Send your girls to military for gang rapes,which is very democratic of US!
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theknopfknows:
It would only take one person to say stop. Group mentality is sick. Stand up and be a man for God's sake. Would you let anyone do this to your mother or sister. I think not.
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THis woman need's to get a clue. If she accepts that they will get raped & it's acceptable. THEN while she's in OFFICE alongside of men, then why isn't she & other women senators & congresswomen getting treated as Sex Objects. She's way Off Base with her COMMENT totally, she needs to support her GENDER NOW!!!
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Debrinconcita:
Party before Gender???
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This woman is completely out of touch with reality. Just because people are in close quarters doesn't give them a right to violate the sexual space of another human being.
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jubal:
Not in her world and the pea brained folks she broadcasts to... =(
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No, I didn't just hear that did I? We are supposed to protect our country, but "nice try" not the people fighting (our military). I think she should be sectioned 8 and held for 72 hours in a secure mental facility to make sure she didn't loose her damn mind. She certainly wasn't using it in that piece. Talk about out of touch. She has a weekly show?? She gets paid? I give Eric Shawn a big gold star for handeling himself so professionally. To me he looked like he wanted to rip her heart out, but he was polite and showed respect she certainly didn't show him. Just another example of a bully at work. Jeesh
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sunny1:
Mental Facility!!!! =)
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sunny1:
If she has w a weekly show and gets PAID for her OPINION , we all should .
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Insane for pay.
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Swisher:
Good Pay!!!
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