GOP Rep: ‘I have little tolerance’ for those with high student loans
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Saturday, April 14, 2012 17:30 EDT
If someone is looking for sympathy for their high student loans, Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC) would not be among those providing any support.
According to audio obtained by Think Progress, the congresswoman appeared on G. Gordon Libby show Friday afternoon, saying she “never borrowed a dime of money” during her time in college before lashing out at those burdened with heavy loans.
“I have very little tolerance for people who tell me that they graduate with $200,000 of debt or even $80,000 of debt because there’s no reason for that,” Foxx said. “We live in an opportunity society and people are forgetting that.”
Despite her disgust for high student loans, Foxx is somehow content with high mortgage notes. Think Progress reported that Foxx owed two individual notes up to $250,000.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/14/gop-rep-i-have-little-tolerance-for-those-...
Listen: Audio from Think Progress, which was from April 13, 2012.
"I wonder what College Tuition was back in her day, or should I say 5 or 6 decades ago???" =)
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eden49:
It isn't fair you bring up that story but you don't tell it. Now everyone wants to know. It's sounds like a train wreck, even though you really would rather not know, you just can't help but be intrigued.
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AxioMalice:
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Perhaps those of us with educations, those of us with high student loans in other words, should get together and hack into Foxx's Facebook.
(Thanks to Attila for the prompting)
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Perhaps those of us with educations, those of us with high student loans, should get together and hack into Foxx's Facebook.
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The Old Hag has One??? =))=
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KB723:
Well, maybe it's MySpace, but she is a politician, and the people who buy the elections for her probably have something in social media set up for her.
(Mind you, I'm only speculating as I'm feeling too lazy to do the damn Google search)
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ThirdSection:
LOL!!! I am Lazy as well, been cloudy all day, haven't even been out to the Cave, just hangin' out here... =)
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LOL....power to the geeks!
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Virginia-Foxx/109285622431273
Virginia Foxx Facebook. - 1 year ago
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Ha! Wow. I thought at first she was saying she hated high student loans. I was like "damn, that bitch actually wants to do something right for once." Nope, she hates those WITH high student loans...
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EmperorThan:
Correct... =(
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EmperorThan:
She hates educated people and wants REVENGE !!!
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look lady, no average kid has that kind of money in this economy. Okay? we are in a reccession. Do you know what that means?!
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youngdebater:
The Old Fart doesn't even remember what she had for Breakfast!!! =(
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KB723:
aww, poor thing! she should stop being in congress and retire if she dont even remember that!
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youngdebater:
Yes!!! I have often said I want to see all elected officials retire at the age of 65... Not saying that over that age, folks are going Dumb or anything, I just figure, folks seem to forget about "Real Life" after a while, especially when they are just Sponging off the American Workers that Hire them, and they don't do anything they were Hired to do... Just my Opinion... =)
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youngdebater:
It means the rich got richer and the kids with no money got even less money.
College is for the rich.
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EmperorThan:
And the military for the Poor!!! =(
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She doesn't know what that means because the people who buy and pay for her continued electoral victories are quite content with her not knowing what that means.
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I don't think it's the age of the representative so much as it's the length of time they've been inside the beltway. In other words, I think a 90-year-old one-term congressperson would be a lot better at remembering "real life" as lived by their constituents than a 45-year-old career politician would be.
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EmperorThan:
...and the kids with no money can go be janitors at their schools!
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EmperorThan:
sadly it is, i wanna go to college so bad!
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WTF??? Are you asking me to discredit you, when I cannot???!!!??? =)
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nailed that one...
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KB723:
It seems to me that people in general take one of two paths , resulting in #1 mean spirited -ness in old age , or #2 WISDOM . Guess which one is the harder path ?
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artemis6:
I would guess Wisdom if it takes $80,000.00's to achieve... =)
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youngdebater:
School should be for all who want it . You cannot have a Working democracy without an educated population ... look what happened to ours .....
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KB723:
I actually think , it just takes the courage to have an OPEN mind . That is really all .
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KB723:
I disagree, for two reasons:
1. Some of our more senior and experienced legislators can bring clarity to the confusion of youth, especially when it comes to the lawmaking process.
2. Some of our more junior and inexperienced legislators have come directly from the batshit crazy wagon with fire in their belly, insanity in their eyes, and resolute determination upon their faces.Each should be taken on their own merit. When elderly legislators spend their legislative day in a "short nap", that's a clue. When a youngster is running down the halls of the legislature, hair afire, screaming impending catastrophe, that too is a clue.
I do, however, contend that every single one of them (after a mandatory drug screen for all receiving federal benefits, of course, like, you know, PAYCHECKS!) needs to be held to the same level of professional expectation and professional conduct. Boy, howdy, no wonder they axed the Ethics Committees! The lines would be out the door, and around the block!
It's time. Enough! We are simply unwilling to accept such abhorrent behavior as this any more, from any elected official. They are the elected! WE are the electors. If they cannot, or will not be about the business of their electors, then perhaps their replacements will be. We shall soon see.... :)
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youngdebater:
Look at that, Young one. People have voted you up. We are listening.
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AxioMalice:
yay! knew someone would listen!
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Then go! Do whatever is legal, ethical and moral to get, stay, and graduate there! By all means, GO! The rest of your life will thank you. Just be sure that, regardless of the major you choose, take the plumbing courses! And keep us informed of your progress. Billions go unrewarded in scholarships and grants. FIND THEM! Some require superb essays. WRITE THEM! And, no matter what, do let the cynicism you will find there affect you, but do not let it distract you from your goal. Be the most engaged, passionate learner the institution lucky enough to have you has ever seen. Excel, on your terms. Do this, because it is your passion. Learn, grow, and share there. Your determination, fortitude, and passion will define you for the rest of your days. Honor them, as they so obviously honor you here today.
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got a few years left before college, but good message for my brother
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I have seen and heard her on the house floor and i know why she didn,t have any college loans with her level of intelligence there is no way she could have gone to college.
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A Republican politician who doesn't have sympathy for Americans in financial trouble. Go figure.
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Not at all like a Puzzle, No??? =)
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KB723:
Couldn't possibly have anything to do with high tuition compared to other countries, predatory lenders, the high cost of living, no financial gains for the middle class over the last 30 years, or the knowledge that a person in debt is easier to control now would it?
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I would say 'Plenty'!!! =(
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Her opinion might have something to do with the fact that most students don't vote for Republicans. I wonder why?
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Perhaps why they stood by Blindly and didn't have any worries about the rising cost of education??? They (GOP) seek an uneducated and easily led Populace.... =(
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I actually agree with her about student loan debt. I am absolutely appalled that anyone would graduate with that much debt in a land of opportunity like America.
College education should be free to every kid that wants one.
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Hear Hear!!! Hard to disagree!!! =)
But check out this post as well... =(http://current.com/shows/upstream/93736643_youll-never-guess-whos-controlling-th...
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Damn straight .
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LMFAO!!! OK, why Not!!! =)
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GOP Rep: ‘I have little tolerance’ for those with high student loans
"I wonder what College Tuition was back in her day, or should I say 5 or 6 decades ago???" =)
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KB723:
Exactly! There is no comparison.
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But I thought College Tuition has gone up for the last several years??? =))=
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It has. She just doesn't care.
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Yes That I can agree with... =))=
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Yes it has skyrocketed to the point where it is unaffordable for millions of Americans. This is a national disgrace.
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Yes... I agree, but I am still Blaming all of our Elected Officials... =))=
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Agreed!...:)
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Okay, just for the purest pleasure of it, I went through and up-rated every single comment on this thread. What catharsis! :) I also happen to agree with pretty much every one I read. A very few got a one-time pass just for the fact that they commented at all.
The question should be considered: "Why is this woman's political party putting up with her insanity?" I'm afraid the answer will be most inconvenient. Either they see it, and agree with it, or they do not see it, and do not understand the consternation her views represent.
This is what is paradoxically referred to as a "dilemma" position. They have it. She sells it. We know it. The question is, "What are WE going to do about it?"
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TNProgressive:
I would wish for all of us that the answer were as simple as it should be. We should be in the streets protesting for everything we are worth and then some. The problem is, as I have experienced it, the police state in which we live has and will continue to make it very nearly impossible to accomplish the end that protesting was invented to do. I've seen people taken away with trumped up charges against them. As-in, there was no illegal activity, just stupid charges invented to suit the cause of those who don't wish to deal with us in the streets. Secondly, there is the violence perpetrated against us. That's not pretty at all but it happens every time. As a result of these spurious arrests, people are spending time in prison for nothing at all. Habits of police include strapping detainees to a specially designed chair and placing said chair in a corner until the detainee "Learns how to show the proper respect", drawing blood which can't be done without probable cause and yet, is done on a daily basis under the guise of suspected public intoxication. After all, in their judgement, who would be protesting unless they were on drugs? Oh, and let's not forget the pepper spray, tazings, overt force without reasonable cause and anything the readers of this article would like to add.
One of the conclusions that I see and one that disturbs me most is that soon, the US will become a prison state. We cannot be sent to an unconstitutional "debtors prison" but if absolutely everything is declared a crime or worse, a felony, then, they have the debtors prison within the guidelines of the constitution. While that's going on, they're ripping the shreds of the remaining constitution and burning the remains. Then, too the issues of minimum wage will go away, and the issue of American labor costs.I still think that we have to protest, perhaps now more than ever. We need to have an overwhelming show of people. Only then will they be forced to listen. This is a government constructed to be ruled by the people, not against them.
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This is a completely honest, honorable, and accurate comment. Thank you for it. I know it to be true, from personal experience as well. And, you are correct, I think. Protesting, in and of itself, solves nothing. This is a basic truth. But, when it is combined with other effective tactics of non-violence (an idea all OWS occupiers could well use an update on, in my opinion), we have seen our protests change an entire national debate. Shills, agents provacateur, and admitted paid opposition trouble makers embedded for the purpose of dissention, agitation, and violent response have done much to the OWS meme. So, who decides who does NOT get to participate? This is a problem which must quickly be addressed. My vote is for Security teams to have the authority to deal with these types, but isn't that precisely what we face when WE protest? What a dilemma.
When we got the word that OWNashville would be evicted, and occupiers arrested, it was a defining moment for each occupier. Yet, while we were evaluating our own willingness to speak truth to power, the power was considering how far to go with us. Arrests were made, but the bus never delivered us to jail. A night court Judge vacated the arrest warrants enroute! It took seven separate attempts, until the Tennessee Legislature finally crafted an "emergency" legislation, specifically against OW-N, exclusively for the purpose of eviction from Leg Plaza that did the trick for them. Unfortunately, the legislation also made homelessness a Class A (Highest) Misdemeanor, with 259 days in jail and a $2,500 fine--per occurrence! Oops.
Spring has come. It still, as has always been true, is the obligation and responsibility of citizens to stand up, cross the line of convenience, and respond with truth to power, to represent (no matter what, actually) the 99%, and with the new understanding of the power of the opposition, do the one thing that citizens CAN do in these days. We know much of our opponentx than we did a few months ago. At least, we can inform and educate our occupiers in a new way, with new strategies and tactics which will cause the aforementioned "dilemma situations" our opponents will be compelled to create in their own names.
Sometimes, speaking truth to power has an amazing result. In this case, the amazing levels and degrees those who hate the truth will go to maintain their status quo. Our message must be so clear that it cannot be understood, and the pranks must stop. Legitimacy has been purchased with every arrest, every violent response to civil disobedience. We must learn what we can do that will help create the change we seek. Now. Or, we will become as completely irrelevant as so many wish were the case today.
This is not a political issue. This is an issue of democracy, and we must frame every message in that light. Citizens WILL respond to these messages. It will be a long and drawn out effort, more likely than not. But, it will be as worth it tomorrow as it was yesterday when we are doing the work of citizens in a democracy. Jesse had it right. The Constitution IS our permit. Now, it is up to us to prove it, and it is up to those who we represent who will not, or cannot join us to choose. That we can do. That we must do.
I AM the 99%!
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TNProgressive:
Intelligent reply. I, too, appreciate it.
I see a window of opportunity closing and closing fast. The more people hesitate to become involved in the movement the smaller the opening becomes until finally it will be closed. At that point breaking down a door becomes the only option and that, is not a place we want to go.
As we speak there are laws being introduced to silence us, punish us and debilitate our voices and our rights as human beings. All under the guise of safety for law enforcement and other organizations. They corral us, remove our dignity and the newest development, they have a right to further strip us of our dignity, our clothing and our bodies-the most private of our selves. Why doesn't our safety come into question? Why is it acceptable to throw cans of tear gas at us while they maintain protections of their safety? they maintain the right to say they feel threatened by us and can use deadly force to enforce that right. While we have no such protection.
We are indeed targeted to maintain a status quo.
They tell us that this is for our protection.
It is indeed NOT for our protection. It is for theirs and theirs alone.Informing and education of Occupy is a very intelligent proposal. That is something that WILL address the protection of our citizens. I honestly do not think that it can be decided who or who doesn't get to participate in Occupy on the outset. As you mentioned the idea of using tactics simply is a mirror of the system we are trying to change. There can be a method by which to remove a problem individual if the problem individual continues with unacceptable behavior. I would think that it would be a matter of warnings and training and upon the final offence tolerated (This is something that Occupy will likely have to set guidelines for) then that individual becomes ostracized. A move that should not be taken lightly. Throughout history, social pressure has been far more effective than force. Our democracy is based on social norms (that often shift with time) and utilizing the age-old method that denies further social contact (removal from the group) can be very effective. I realize that the police, although they are expected to work for us, cannot be relied upon due to the fact that they are working for those who want us gone and silent so working up a peaceful way to handle those who are not furthering the cause, may well fall into the hands of the small group (Occupy).
There have always been and there will continue to be social misfits and those who are out of order simply because they haven't been taught to channel that behavior positively. That is something else that I hope will come of the Occupy movement: People who take responsibility for those who are not behaviorally skilled and those who are mentally compromised. This country has turned it's back on people like this with labels that are not befitting and shifting the blame for it to whomever to escape society's ancient responsibility. I realize that this sounds intrusive. It shouldn't be intrusive. The alternative is to stand back and allow everyone in need to die of that need or in pain or both. No society needs to butt in and take over but we do need to be able to have the resources to help if it is requested. We don't need to impose help. We do need to offer assistance There, I'm sure, is the difference between intrusion and benefit.
Sorry, I know this has been long and a good bit off-topic. I'll conclude now with this last statement:
I know of the seedy confederates of Occupy's opposition who lurk in wait to create trouble. Let them prove themselves to be who they are. Again, social pressure can do wonders. If those who seek to ambush the movement reveal themselves, apply that pressure. Apply it liberally and focus it to the person or group. We, are not without the power to educate, open minds and deprogram. It is possible that a member or two can be attained through it and there is no stronger member than one who was at first, in opposition. If the method fails, crowd them out, peacefully.Sending my best regards to you, your thoughtfulness and to those who read this,
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