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Why Liberals Are More Intelligent Than Conservatives

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Liberals think they’re more intelligent than conservatives because they are.

It is difficult to define a whole school of political ideology precisely, but one may reasonably define liberalism (as opposed to conservatism) in the contemporary United States as the genuine concern for the welfare of genetically unrelated others and the willingness to contribute larger proportions of private resources for the welfare of such others. In the modern political and economic context, this willingness usually translates into paying higher proportions of individual incomes in taxes toward the government and its social welfare programs. Liberals usually support such social welfare programs and higher taxes to finance them, and conservatives usually oppose them.

Defined as such, liberalism is evolutionarily novel. Humans (like other species) are evolutionarily designed to be altruistic toward their genetic kin, their friends and allies, and members of their deme (a group of intermarrying individuals) or ethnic group. They are not designed to be altruistic toward an indefinite number of complete strangers whom they are not likely ever to meet or interact with. This is largely because our ancestors lived in a small band of 50-150 genetically related individuals, and large cities and nations with thousands and millions of people are themselves evolutionarily novel.

The examination of the 10-volume compendium The Encyclopedia of World Cultures, which describes all human cultures known to anthropology (more than 1,500) in great detail, as well as extensive primary ethnographies of traditional societies, reveals that liberalism as defined above is absent in these traditional cultures. While sharing of resources, especially food, is quite common and often mandatory among hunter-gatherer tribes, and while trade with neighboring tribes often takes place, there is no evidence that people in contemporary hunter-gatherer bands freely share resources with members of other tribes.

Because all members of a hunter-gatherer tribe are genetic kin or at the very least friends and allies for life, sharing resources among them does not qualify as an expression of liberalism as defined above. Given its absence in the contemporary hunter-gatherer tribes, which are often used as modern-day analogs of our ancestral life, it may be reasonable to infer that sharing of resources with total strangers that one has never met or is not likely ever to meet – that is, liberalism – was not part of our ancestral life. Liberalism may therefore be evolutionarily novel, and the Hypothesis would predict that more intelligent individuals are more likely than less intelligent individuals to espouse liberalism as a value.

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  • ProudPrimate
  • WalmartRamen
  • ProudPrimate
    • 0
      ProudPrimate  
    • WalmartRamen:

      They have been addicted to ad hoc manipulative strategies since Alexander Hamilton.

      The opportunity has never been greater for us, the actual Republicans (as Jefferson, Madison, & al., applied the term to themselves, i.e., standing for the Public, the common man, against the privileged) to clarify this chronic fraud response, reflex fraud, automatic fraud, that they have in their DNA, which opportunity we owe to the web, #1, and to Obama's outstanding grasp of the elements of communication — also because of this young generation coming up, that may just have the stuff to equal or surpass my hippie generation for independence of mind.

      We must do all we can at every turn to nurture this new crop of "Republicans" in their struggle against the "Federalists".

      Oh, and, I found the switches! You have to mouse over to get them to appear — duh!

    • 10 months ago
  • WalmartRamen
  • ProudPrimate
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      ProudPrimate  
    • WalmartRamen:

      I have compassion on those monks — they were facing the Black Death, that decimated Europe. I think their response is reasonable, under the circumstances.

      So also

      "Ring around Rosie
      Pockets full of posies
      Ashes, ashes
      All fall down."

    • 10 months ago
  • WalmartRamen
  • noxidereus
    • +2
      noxidereus  
    • Whether or not this is true, it would probably be cool if we didn't think of ourselves as 2 separate conflicting groups because it only serves the elite for us to think this way. Rather, we should come to realize that we are purposely divided into 2 parties that pit us against each other but also unite us under the agenda of the elite. In other words, the vast majority of us are being fooled, whether liberal or conservative, some more easily than others, but we're all in the same boat; we're all victims.

    • 10 months ago
  • ecoalex
  • WalmartRamen
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      WalmartRamen  
    • ecoalex:

      Not a waste of time! If you just sit there & don't vote...
      Put it this way "Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference." Not true! Idiots voted in Bush, the guy with the DUI, an drunk etc.
      So if you just sit there & say nothing they will come walking in
      like what happened with Bush!

    • 10 months ago
  • thetrimsmith
    • +1
      thetrimsmith  
    • The headline is invalidated by the study, wording that causes contention.

      The study implies the more intelligence, the more liberally bent.
      The headline implies the more liberal, the more intelligent.

      Which we all know is patently false, mere political affiliation is not grounds for measuring I.Q.

    • 10 months ago
  • WalmartRamen
    • +1
      WalmartRamen  
    • thetrimsmith:

      Mere political affiliation is not grounds for measuring I.Q?
      "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
      Albert Einstein.

      Low taxes, low taxes... You get the point.
      If you just stay there in that group that does that I would question your IQ!

    • 10 months ago
  • thetrimsmith
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      thetrimsmith  
    • WalmartRamen:

      I view politics as being a cesspool, where greedy humans wallow and grunt. It should be stripped of corporate $, reduced to a utilitarian minimum.

      Agree with your proposition that adherence to a political affiliation reveals a shallow mind, although to me it's not a scientific means of measuring I.Q.

    • 10 months ago
  • WalmartRamen
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      WalmartRamen  
    • thetrimsmith:

      Agree with your proposition that adherence to a political affiliation reveals a shallow mind, although to me it's not a scientific means of measuring I.Q.
      Yes it is!!!

      It's more on the having the IQ to not say something like overseas, because effects all countries, & their people. ( MITT )
      They are all black or Muslim to him. Kind of like when Bush was in office. The CIA etc had to explain to him there not all the same ( Muslim! ) Bush is a good point of low IQ.
      Being the pres of the US is really the Pres of the world. So being like the way Bush was acting holds him to a low IQ. He should know better.

      More to the point Ron Paul wanting to get rid of Social Security. Is that just a shallow mind? Can you see your town with no SSI. Looting at Walmart getting food, etc.
      Then the people that go with him!

      http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/06/20/ron-paul-receives-social-security-checks...

    • 10 months ago
  • dissillusion
    • +1
      dissillusion  
    • .... Still preaching the false left-right paradigm around here I see...

      You know there have been many books, some from people with intelligence quotients approaching the 170 or better range, that destroy the idea... Doesn't factor in the emotional quotient, witch helps in determining actual practical applied intelligence, and is a little newer of a concept but still.

      Idk... As a student of the Bob Prisig's teachings on this illusion, as well as others, and knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that many people are such hard core zealots in supporting the illusion that they literally have labeled people insane, caged and medicated beyond all reason those who have successfully posed arguments to destroy the paradigm, as well as the few that have actually came unglued trying to destroy it....

      I'd just like to confirm it's bullshit, many fit NEITHER, & hate the attempt at pigeonhole labeling...

      Ignorant people can keep it..... The very most brilliant minds continue to reject the classic-romantic, liberal-conservative, left-right, however you want to term it BULLSHIT....

      One should be suspect of any weak mind who purports the concept that is the topic of this article, as legitimate...

    • 10 months ago
  • ProudPrimate
    • +1
      ProudPrimate  
    • dissillusion:

      Here's how Thomas Jefferson "termed it":

      The Basic Differences Between Parties

      "Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties:

      1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes.

      2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not the most wise depositary of the public interests.

      In every country these two parties exist, and in every one where they are free to think, speak, and write, they will declare themselves. Call them, therefore, Liberals and Serviles, Jacobins and Ultras, Whigs and Tories, Republicans and Federalists, Aristocrats and Democrats, or by whatever name you please, they are the same parties still and pursue the same object. The last one of Aristocrats and Democrats is the true one expressing the essence of all."

      — Letter to Samuel Kercheval, 1816.

    • 10 months ago
  • WalmartRamen
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      WalmartRamen  
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    • dissillusion:

      Hoopla! It's Repubican kool-aid! Sort of doing things that put us here over & over.
      Keep the pay low, then have like what is happening in my town. Places are closing.
      The income sets the market in real life. You can make it but can they afford it?
      Not there in my town & others. Grand openings in my town are job fairs. No one can really afford to go to those places, just go looking for a low paying job.
      Teachers in my state are poor here, many don't have cable etc, or even a TV!
      But here comes the Republicans doing the same hoopla! "Supply & demand,
      & pay the worker minimum wage.", they say as they go into the ground.
      Only to close their doors. Then blame Obama for it!
      It makes me think of that, Einstein Quote. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

      Also acting stupid, like Obama is not doing good. Chevy has no complaints & the Republicans did not want to bale them out!
      And yes Obama is no Bill Clinton. Obama has been here only like 4 years.
      It took Bill 8 years to get us out a mess that is no where as big as now.
      It might take Bill 16 years to get us out of this debt & Obama has been here 4 years.

      Low IQ! There is is!

      So from your point of view a place like Berkeley must be full of stupid people. How ever did they get there?
      http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/research/walmart.shtml

      http://home.dbdbdugbug.operaunite.com/W/content/WPHOTOS/Who-Did-it.jpg

    • 10 months ago
  • WalmartRamen
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      WalmartRamen  
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    • ProudPrimate:

      Also a party should not treat us like a Cash cow. It runs us all into the ground & kills your sales & your business. You customers all make low pay. There are 50 million of them out there! Im one of them also & I do without. Where does that supply & demand fit in there?

      Do you want a party that takes away your money & gives it to your boss?
      Like driving to work & seeing your bosses new truck after you haven't got a raise in 10 years.

      Sounds like a party I don't want to go to.
      Much like a Tea Party, where they drive to it in their $30,000 truck only to cry over taxes that are lower then what they drive!

      Party of greed! No tea for me!
      http://home.dbdbdugbug.operaunite.com/W/content/WPHOTOS/No-More-Tea.jpg

    • 10 months ago
  • Jake_Leonard
    • +1
      Jake_Leonard  
    • I'm sorry, but I find this a ridiculous notion.

      I am considerably progressive, but this proves nothing but perhaps some vague correlation at best, if the answers aren't botched and the definitions clearly defined.

      With that said we shouldn't be (somehow) comparing our intelligence like it's some sort of pissing contest. Instead we should be SHOWING it through example.

      Such a study only buries ourselves more deeply in this partisan entrenchment.

    • 10 months ago
  • TBoneSteak
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      TBoneSteak  
    • Jake_Leonard:

      I see that you've hit upon
      the limited applications of this study
      to anything--or the conclusion that
      "conservatives are less intelligent"
      than liberals based on composite
      scores of teenage kids--who were
      all within a few IQ points of each other.

      Refreshing to read your candor!
      Thanks.

    • 10 months ago
  • hammywill
  • tverdell
  • bailey78
  • csmonut
  • Vic_Romano
  • freecrack
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
  • alexandrekBack
    • +11
      alexandrekBack  
    • it's not about intelligence but education.
      open minded humanist education will lead you to liberal ideas, bigoted botched bible oriented education to conservatism and worst.

    • 10 months ago
  • WagonMaster
  • MSII
  • CreditFigaro
  • alluinoissim
    • +5
      alluinoissim  
    • From the word " Liberal" which means- "Liberated"- exposing to something new and more experienced,so I can say they're smart than "Conservatives" which means putting on a safe ground.. LOL .. it's only my point of view..!
      alluinoissimSays

    • 10 months ago
  • WagonMaster
  • alluinoissim
  • hammywill
  • warman1138
    • +11
      warman1138  
    • I'm a liberal and I'm smarter than all the conservatives I personally know. However I'm the first to acknowledge that I am an idiot. Sooooo where does that leave the conservatives I know? Dumber than an idiot.....lol.

    • 10 months ago
  • Lib4truth
  • Lib4truth
    • +1
      Lib4truth  
    • Self proclaimed liberals and conservatives are both stupid compared to those that decided to stay away from politics (over 50% of the population) because they discovered the jockeying being played at everyone's expense by a few selected privileged members of our society.

      Fuck politics!! Saturday morning cartoons are on!!!

    • 10 months ago
  • Imzadi
  • coolplanet
  • cztheday
  • WagonMaster
  • Buddha2112
    • +3
      Buddha2112  
    • Another "my dick is bigger than yours" post?

      From who? Really? I'd never believe that. Let's further push the divide between each other and ignore that they're all the same level of scum... Just wearing a different color jersey... Who really wants to win that championship? I guess you do.

      Please... Take the trophy... actually here, take all of them.

    • 10 months ago
  • HarukoHaruhara
  • hammywill
  • Mishima
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      Mishima [removed]  
    • hammywill:

      It gets worse than that. The variable "conservative" in such studies is subject to arbitrary definitions. Some of these studies were done in Europe, and the concept of conservative is entirely different, for example. And there are social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, etc.

    • 10 months ago
  • Buddha2112
    • +4
      Buddha2112  
    • hammywill:

      But but! Look at my graph! It has numbers!

      I love how the blog is "Scientific FUNDAMENTALIST"

      LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

      That's some science! comparing adolescent intelligence (A JOKE) and a later irrelevant political choice.

    • 10 months ago
  • rerushg
    • +3
      rerushg  
    • hammywill:

      Don't know if I'd have used the word "asinine" but your point is well taken. I feel the findings are valid but with such a narrow range of IQ's around "normal" (whatever the hell that is... :) ) conclusions might be a little strained.
      My greater concern is the last couple of paragraphs that offer conclusions only tangential to the study itself and hardly explained at all.

    • 10 months ago
  • rerushg
  • rerushg
    • +4
      rerushg  
    • Buddha2112:

      Ha!! Fair point, Buddah. But at least it doesn't employ the righty tactics of displaying the result logarithmically, or doctoring the axes to emphasize the visual impact to those who don't do numbers very well. :)

    • 10 months ago
  • Buddha2112
    • -3
      Buddha2112  
    • rerushg:

      That almost makes it worse... I should do a study showing the correlation between small genitals and those who make ridiculous correlations... That's almost too much data to log...

    • 10 months ago
  • rerushg
  • hammywill
    • 0
      hammywill  
    • rerushg:

      Probably a little harsh, true. I'm just tired of seeing postings like this that serve only ONE purpose...to make one feel superior and ridicule those who think differently than oneself.

    • 10 months ago
  • rerushg
  • hammywill
  • JohnA
    • JohnA [removed]  
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  • Gordon_Shumway
    • +5
      Gordon_Shumway  
    • JohnA:

      Pride goeth before a fall. And the people who are absolutely convinced that THEY are the smartest ... Well they are the most ignorant of all. To be clear, not the dumbest. The most ignorant.

    • 10 months ago
  • JohnA
  • ThirdSection
    • +5
      ThirdSection  
    • JohnA:

      A sure sign of intelligence is when one weighs the merits of an issue before choosing a side or refraining to do so. Libertarians don't do that. Instead, they apply their prefabricated ideology to everything that comes up and it's finished. It's a very handy shortcut around the need to work the brain, but the brain, like any other part of the body, needs to be worked or it will atrophy.

    • 10 months ago
  • Gordon_Shumway
    • +3
      Gordon_Shumway  
    • JohnA:

      Yes JohnA, "OK". That simple 2 letter response is actually quite a foundation. Now perhaps we may move forward and reason with each other. Ideas are quite a bit of fun and very constructive when the personal animosities are removed ...

      Have a great weekend!

    • 10 months ago
  • CreditFigaro
    • +6
      CreditFigaro  
    • ThirdSection:

      Spot on... have you ever noticed how often libertarians will tell you that you need to read some huge volume of their senseless drivel whenever they start to lose a discussion?

      As if the problem is YOU and that YOU just don't know enough!!

      Please tell me I'm not the only one who has experienced this...

    • 10 months ago
  • JohnA
  • ThirdSection
  • ThirdSection
    • +4
      ThirdSection  
    • JohnA:

      This illustrates my point exactly. What you just said is an echo of what pretty much every (read many) libertarian I have met has said when confronted with the point I just made.

    • 10 months ago
  • JohnA
  • artemis6
  • rerushg
  • Vierotchka
  • ThirdSection
  • Gordon_Shumway
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  • JohnA
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  • artemis6
  • thedirtman
    • +10
      thedirtman  
    • Why liberals are smarter? Smarter conservatives have been alienated by their less intelligent conservative counterparts. They took a walk and found that they are welcome on the other side. Simple as that.

    • 10 months ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • thedirtman
  • ThirdSection
    • +11
      ThirdSection  
    • I simply think that it's in everybody's best interests to live in a country that contains as few desperate poor people as possible, and that public policy should be geared toward that end.

    • 10 months ago
  • JohnA
  • thetrimsmith
  • ThirdSection
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
    • +6
      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • That by definition those who resist change in spite of obvious and urgent need to change, the crux of most definitions of conservative versus liberal, obviates any further substantiation of the point. By current definition, "conservatism" is an ideology of self destruction by delusion of self preservation. That which they seek to preserve is destroying us all, however.

    • 10 months ago
  • letsliveinpeace
  • JohnA
  • EmperorThan
    • +5
      EmperorThan  
    • letsliveinpeace:

      I would argue (at least from how much they say it) that conservative care about their 'family' instead of other people's families. Which evolutionarily is what most animals do, including humans, but caring about others you don't know may be the next evolutionary step in intelligence. When you help other people's families that may or may not give their genes the edge over yours in the long run though. Might explain why liberals always trying to screw themselves over too. lol

      It's all over-generalizations though.

    • 10 months ago
  • MSII
    • +5
      MSII  
    • letsliveinpeace:

      Agree, it's the "philosophy" of "I got mine, fuck you!" and the poor pathetic wannabees who believe oh just any ol day now they too will be somehow "spiritually elevated" to the status of their 1%er masters that they Uncle Tom bow and scrape at the feet of.

    • 10 months ago
  • rerushg
    • +6
      rerushg  
    • JohnA:

      That's just bullshit. Every freedom you enjoy is the result of of Constitutional governance that ALL of us speak to preserve. Yet you support entirely unfettered free market oligarchy that has demonstrated repeatedly that it could not care less about you, your freedom, your wealth, or your health. Astonishing.

    • 10 months ago
  • rerushg
    • +4
      rerushg  
    • EmperorThan:

      What you suggest is evolutionary between species as part of the survival instinct of individuals. Are you saying that with intelligence man now justifiably pursues the survival instinct within the species, and this is evolutionary?

    • 10 months ago
  • mrpuma2u
  • JohnA
  • rerushg
    • +1
      rerushg  
    • JohnA:

      When your free market clamps down on you what do you do then? Stop buying their food? Or their water? That's what you're proposing, you know. When they own it all, what are you?

    • 10 months ago
  • hammywill
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      hammywill  
    • rerushg:

      "When they own it all.." and THAT is the very heart of what is wrong with Capitalism! The very structure of "Free Market" Capitalism allows for such a small percentage of the population to LITERALLY own EVERYTHING. That is an inherent flaw.

    • 10 months ago
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  • JohnA
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • JohnA:

      By design, John, yes. The federal government is designed to be the alter ego, persona and expression of the People and their will. The corporate right's idelology is designed to suppress and divert the People's ego, persona and will.

    • 9 months ago
  • letsliveinpeace
    • -1
      letsliveinpeace  
    • JohnA:

      Short answer: liberals care more about the whole tribe meaning all Americans, and with conservatives it's all about me me me me me me me. And liberals, we send our sons and daughters to fight in your wars so that you can live in that rich lifestyle you have. And you conservatives don't want to give one damn penny in taxes for our sons and daughters to have the proper equipment they need to fight in your wars. Greedy people conservatives are, using the money they stole from the taxpayers. You didn't enter office rich, you leave rich. You said in your comment caring about the whole tribe doesn't mean giving up all your freedom to the federal government, well it's okay when the conservatives are the ones in office, it's okay to send our sons and daughters to fight in the unjustified wars you start, and if conservatives feel that way about it stop sending our kids to fight in your wars, start sending your own children to fight them, but you won't do that. Greedy conservatives like Dick Cheney, for instance, the heart he received should have gone to a younger person, incidentally it was money that put him ahead of everyone in line. You also add in your comment liberals don't care about the tribe they just want control over it, not true, conservatives are the ones who want control and to enslave all Americans. Wasn't George Bush the one that passed the "Patriot Act", authorizing warrantless wire taps, rendition to other countries, waterboarding and the suspension of Habeas Corpus, letting them throw Americans in prison without charging them. The republicans have no trouble trashing the constitution, which you swear to defend when you take office You guys say that all the time. "Conquer and destroy", isn't that what Scott Walker said. Liberals do all the work most of the crying, most of the dying, paying most bills and deserve much better. Send your sons and daughters to the wars you start.

    • 9 months ago
  • JohnA
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  • CreditFigaro
    • +3
      CreditFigaro  
    • I like what gordon said, but the fact of the matter is:

      conservatives care more about the "team" than the country.

      Go to any conservative get together, and you won't find a lot of debate or free thinking. Instead, you will find a lot of "We gotta win!"

      They see us as the "other." Naturally an ideology like that is the low hanging fruit for the investment class to take advantage of... and so they do. As a result, we end up with president shit-for-brains, and soon to be president quintessential-corrupt-nut-job.

      With understanding comes a reduction of fear and hatred. With a communal world view comes support for policy that makes sense for all.

      Republicans lack those luxuries.

    • 10 months ago
  • JohnA
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