Vanguard | October 01, 2008 | 34 comments

Global Border Battle

Adam_Yamaguchi

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While the U.S. builds walls and implements new ID requirements on its borders, Europe and Canada are moving in the opposite direction. Vanguard reports on different approaches to immigration around the globe.
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  • merk_Lony
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      merk_Lony  
    • While I don't have a problem anyone coming to the U.S.A. Why is it every time you turn around they say it is good to allow people to come but in fact, how can it build an economy? When more than 70% of the money they make doesn't get spent in the country they are working in. Common sense tells me that they are building their home countries economy, So in my opinion that is not good. If you have millions of people living in the U.S.A. (and not all of them) but 70 % sent their money home... We are talking millions of dollars sent to their home country.
      Look it up on western union in 1 year how much money goes to Mexico from the USA over 20 million dollars.....

    • 4 months ago
  • ijacqueline
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      ijacqueline  
    • Diminishing borders definitely has its ups and downs. One of the benefits of diminishing borders is that it allows people to travel with less hassle. Getting visas take time and effort. A good example is the Canadian and American borders. Many Canadians can move freely to the US to do some shopping, visiting families, etc. In a way this is helping the American economy grow because Canadians go there to shop due to less tax and cheaper goods. However, there is a bad side to this. Illegal immigrants that the American government is so afraid of. It makes sense that America is tightening their border regulations to try to limit the illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants can improve the US economy because they are technically working and pay for goods and services. On the other hand, if these illegal immigrants commit crimes, it's harder to catch them because there's legal identification. European countries can be more open about their borders because they already have the documents allowing them to travel freely.

    • 5 months ago
  • laurenlder
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      laurenlder  
    • It is interesting to me how Canada, a country so welcoming to immigrants, is doing better economically than the States which shuns immigrants. Perhaps our willingness to accept immigrants is helping us to integrate them into and make them useful members of our society. In my opinion, immigration and integration of cultures is a part of Canadian culture and a good one because we can all learn from each other and gain a more balanced perspective on life through this.

    • 5 months ago
  • melissasung
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      melissasung  
    • Prior to watching this video i already had some knowledge about the borders and immigration. One fact i currently knew was that canada acccepts the most immigrants per year. After watching this video i learned that people from poorer countries such as Mexico, try to cross the borderline to live in canada because it is a better country to live in rather than their own or united states. This is because canada offers more services and benefits to immigrants. However, due to the amount of foreigners entering our counrty, there are insufficient jobs for our citizens and even though this fact is considered, canada is still accepting immigrants.

    • 5 months ago
  • kendraay
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      kendraay  
    • As the rate of immigrates come to a country, there are a portion that may be illegal immigrants. It is hard to find a balance between illegal immigrants that help the economy since they provide more jobs and business opportunities and the immigrants that cause crime rates to rise. Without a doubt, immigrants are beneficial to a country as they can bring more trade between the counties, more jobs, a wider spread in products and overall a higher amount of business opportunities abroad.

    • 5 months ago
  • kalongw
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      kalongw  
    • This is beneficial in some aspects, like it encourages the flow of goods across borders, however it also brings about security issues. It's probably why there are so many incidents of bombings and terrorist activity there. Some securirty measures should at least be implemented, but not enough to severly impact the flow of goods and people.

    • 5 months ago
  • Perla_Trumkul
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      Perla_Trumkul  
    • The United States has a small secret, in order to sustain its global "power" in the world it must double its size in the next generation. The United States reached 308.7 million in 2010, a slowdown, while China's population reached 1.4 billion (the 3rd Economic power in the world, expected to take first place in 2020). Another factoid, for every 10 engineers China graduates the U.S. graduates 3. Perhaps these numbers don't speak much to everyday folks but it does to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and all organizations that rely heavily on immigrants legal and illegal to sustain global economic success. What we need is immigration reform that gives workers and families an opportunity to be here legally and provide safe and protection to both employers, employees and the communities that sustain them.

    • 12 months ago
  • RikaChen
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      RikaChen  
    • Although Canada does depend on immigrants in order to expand its economy, it should carefully select its immigrants. For instance, allowing less refugees to come into the country. In my opinion, Canadian citizens pay taxes which provides refugees a new life, money, and a place to stay. The refugees, on the other hand brings crime rates up. The result of those may be 'brain drain', where well educated knowledgeable people begin to emigrate. This would be the last thing Canada needs.

      Therefore, I believe that Canada needs to watch the people that it is allowing to come into the country and it has done the right thing to deport illegal immigrants.

    • 2 years ago
  • hovincent
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      hovincent  
    • Canada is one of the most hospitable country that an immigrant can find themselves. Although it is not the best choice, it also isn't a last resort. Immigrants have brought many benefits to Canada, and Canada has also provided benefits for them through opportunities and a fresh start. Sometimes, this 'fresh start' may mean never looking back, and starting with nothing. On an international perspective, countries who have emigrants and immigrants should be careful who they are letting out and letting in. Countries may lose people skilled in a certain industry who they need and countries may gain people who are skilled in a certain industry who they do not need. This tips the global supply and demand of people who are professional or skilled. This would cause slowdown in industries and people out of work. Of course, immigration could also mean growth in industries and people getting jobs. As for legal immigration, there is no right or wrong answer, and countries should let it happen as they see fit.
      Immigration is based on the individual, and not based on the country. The individual's profile and will to move to another country is not directly affected by their government. There is no way to ensure that an immigrant can benefit or drag the country they immigrated to, so the best policy is to be strict, rather than lenient.

    • 2 years ago
  • yang_wendy
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      yang_wendy  
    • Being brought up in Canada, I am surrounded by people all over the globe everyday, and I can easily see the benefits brought in by immigrants (since the Canadian economy is essentially driven by immigrants). While I am very proud of Canada's hospitality towards immigrants, enabling me to grow up in a multicultural environment, the negative aspects of immigration outweigh its pros.
      Many immigrants who came to Canada (illegal or not) are loyal to their home country; even after many have opened businesses here, when they think about "home", Canada is usually not the first country that comes to mind. True that immigrants have opened businesses here and have provided jobs for Canadians, like seen in the video, many send the money that they earned from Canadians right back to their home country. This will create a deficit and a leakage of money in the Canadian economy in the long run.
      In addition, immigration puts on a huge strain on the Canadian government, since a lot of government funds is handed out as welfare for immigrants who have difficulties to find a job (unfortunately, this number is not small). Since a lot of immigrants come from non-English speaking countries, it is hard for them to overcome the language barrier and acquire a job. Even if they do not have a language obstacle, many professional certificates that they have acquired in their home countries are not recognized in Canada, for example a doctor in Russia might not be able to retain his title here. Contrary to many's beliefs, immigration actually increases unemployment rates. In order to help the immigrants, the government enforces expansionary fiscal policies (more welfare), on the taxpayer's expense.
      However, with all the cons being pointed out, I think they could easily be fixed by having tougher immigration policies, for example, allowing only the people who are very capable and are highly likely to find a job here to immigrate to Canada. This way, money won't be needed to spent on immigration welfare, then immigration might actually make a positive impact on the economy.

    • 2 years ago
  • Tim_Hung
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      Tim_Hung  
    • It is sad to see immigrants forcibly removed from their homes because of their status as an illegal immigrant. Perhaps if they have just illegal crossed the border and they are just starting out, deportation would not be so horrible. However, people who have spent almost a decade in the U.S should be allowed to stay as they are as much an American as others. They have contributed to the work force and as long as they have not committed criminal offenses (besides jumping the border of course) then they should be allowed to stay. Of course the U.S is paranoid because of the 9/11 incident and other terrorist acts, but they have brought all those events upon themselves. The U.S do not stand down in the case of a battle, instead they resort to violence, causing them to be one of the most hated western nations. They decide that they are the strongest and therefore they get to do whatever they want. So they choose to deport hard-working (illegal) immigrants and they get rid of them. I believe it is immoral to deport those that have been in the U.S (in this case, Arizona) for over 4 years because they have settled down and are used to the state.

      Canada on the other hand, or from the video, Vancouver, are encouraging immigrants to come into the country. They want more people to come in, causing job opportunities, raising the overall economy and growth of Vancouver, and bringing recognition to the city. Canada in general is a very multicultural country and overall seems much more hospitable than the U.S.

    • 2 years ago
  • Salar_Shoaiby
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      Salar_Shoaiby  
    • Tim_Hung:

      Although I completely respect the points you have made I feel the U.S. does have every right to remove illegal immigrants, even the ones who have lived in the country for years. Sure, you could say they have worked just as hard as any other American has, but they still came to the country illegally. Many Illegal immigrants do hard labor jobs for cash and do not pay taxes and yet they still send themselves or their children to places like schools that need that tax money. If you say that illegal immigrants work just as hard as other Americans do, then they should pay the same amount of taxes as everyone else. Although I do agree that illegal immigrants who have lived in America for a certain number of years should still stay, but only if they receive the same taxes everyone else receives, if they cannot pay, they then should be treated/ prosecuted like others who do not pay tax.
      This is my point of view on the issue (even though it is a republican one… sadly.

    • 2 years ago
  • m_kolesnikova
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      m_kolesnikova  
    • It is a great thing to see that Canada is so welcoming to immigrants. As having to go through the immigration process myself, it shows how many more opportunities people can get with the education and the lifestyle change that is sometimes needed. Yes, sometimes there are difficulties in the process, but that just shows character of the person. They have to be stubborn and willing to take risks, but it is worth it. People uniting in one country shows that is possible for many cultures to live together in peace. If people can do it in Canada, why does there have to be wars internationally?

    • 2 years ago
  • Tim_Hung
  • m_kolesnikova
  • joeytseng
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      joeytseng  
    • How come BC is "the" province that attracts so many immigrants? I believe that Ontario, too, has quite a fair amount of immigrants arriving every year. We can tell by the community being comprised of people with many different ethnic backgrounds.Think about provinces like Saskatchewan, Manitoba, or even those Atlantic provinces like Prince Edward Island, how come the governments there do not encourage immigration as much? One of the reasons that immigrants do not choose provinces other than Ontario and British Columbia is that these two provinces take better care of them. However, we do find that immigrants usually have no intentions to settle in other provinces. What do you think the reasons are? Too cold? Cannot stand plugin the vehicles in every time going shopping in the winters? The prices of housing are ridiculus in the downtown area of Toronto. However, it tends to be where the immigrants choose to settle. Downtown Toronto is already quite crowded and developed. Shouldn't these new comers make good use of the land that Canada provides? They could start and develop some other areas.

    • 2 years ago
  • danyal
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      danyal  
    • I think that the US Borders should not be removed like they have been in Europe. I think this because there is a lot of illegal stuff that goes from the Us to Mexico and from Mexicoo the US. If these borders were to be removed then US citizens would eb in danger. In terms of the Canadian border with US, I think the border should not be removed, but the US should not be so strict with Canada since it has a very close relation with Canada.

    • 2 years ago
  • Manny_Ahmed
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      Manny_Ahmed  
    • The US is over rated, they think that just cause they're known all around they can mess with people. There will come a day when they will be begging for help from other countries, and then we can all say "awww too bad".

    • 2 years ago
  • irenesacchi
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      irenesacchi  
    • Normally I love current tv and its reportage, but I have to say a lot against this one.

      The part on the empty border through Austria was just ridiculous, why should people be there? Adam use the words “this is a ghost place”... Well it is was it should be! Why should people be there if there is no border?

      He then went to Austria and asked a bunch of people what do they think of immigrants, if are they going to rise criminality in their country. Which immigrants? I am an italian girl living in Germany and I swear nobody ever told me to be an immigrant. We do not need to apply to any immigration office if we change country in Europe and yes, we can work everywhere we want and we just do not feel like immigrants or something. We are just European! Immigrant in Europe are for definition people outside Europe, not inside, it is like if you would ask somebody from the state of New York what do they think of the Massachusetts immigrants.

      It is just wrong to compare the border from canada to the USA with the border between European countries!!

      We are Europeans, we have a European policy, a European Constitution and a European feeling. I should say with this reportage you just showed the lack of previous research it is needed to be called professional.

    • 2 years ago
  • fedex
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      fedex  
    • This video fails to properly address the significant social issues surrounding immigration. An informative cursory glance at different societies foreign affairs.

    • 3 years ago
  • ny_nj_soulchild
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      ny_nj_soulchild  
    • Well I look at it like this from where I live in...

      NYC - 8+ million people
      State of NJ - 8+ Million People
      Phila - 1.2 Million people (poplulation is declining)

      Crime - all are not committed by immigrants.
      For the people that go through with it "Legally" - They are still suffering b/c from the insecurities that they face from our society alone.

      I think that where i live...we are mostly more open to immigrants. We are in between city enviroments and to an ideal. That's where the jobs are.

      Security - Crime in philadelphia is still messed up...NYC - i would say not so much...

      Take a look at this...If you take away 10,000 bodegas in NYC. You will notice that the economy of the city will fall apart by a lot. Same thing with the mom and pop stores around the downtown districts in small towns in NJ & in Philadelphia.

      The government and society in the USA are still insecure about this issue and once something major happens that deals with this...who know what will happen to our borders. Besides...this pod had alot of views from the illegals to the ones that did do it legally.

      I still think that America will become more like europe in the next decade or later on. Who knows what will happen....

    • 3 years ago
  • ashitaka
  • martabettencourt
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      martabettencourt  
    • Portugal is the paradise for emigrants, mainly from Africa, and Brasil.

      My biggest concern is the security. Crime has increase a lot
      and there are a large number of people that doesn´t work but sill receiving the minimum salary.

    • 3 years ago
  • LaurenCerre
  • SurfingMonkey
  • Doyourown
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      Doyourown  
    • Job well done for the program. It is an important topic such as problem to USA to deal with. I quite agree on Union - carry extra ID? This one I do not know?

      It is a problem. It is a problem which failed real estate boom. Real estate is one of the pilars which should not be abused (which we did). It is essential for goverment to deal with it (which they did).

      There is a lot of the solutions for this and goverment rather to ACT. The more we wait that harder it will.

    • 3 years ago
  • Bravura
  • SurfingMonkey
  • LaurenCerre
  • AmericanAlien
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      AmericanAlien  
    • First, let me use this opportunity to thank current.com for this great and informative program. The topic of immigration has become a global debate. Countries all over the world are wrestling with this issue; America has to deal with its Mexican population, Spain has its influx of North Africans and even South Africa has its share of problems with Zimbabweans who have fled their country.

      The issue of immigration cannot be argued in absolute terms. There is no one solution that fits all. It is interesting to note the contrast that exist in the way America is dealing with its immigration problem compared to other developed countries such as Canada and in Europe. At some point America will come to its senses and realize that a comprehensive solution is the best way forward. The Lou Dobbs kind of mentality will never work because at the end of the day, most Americans are pragmatic people who are looking for an answer in the middle.

      It is true that many of these immigrants come here the wrong way and have therefore broken the law, but the fact is they are already here and are serving as an indispensable part of our economy. The status quo is not acceptable and neither is it sound or practical for that matter, to round up 12 (or however many) million people and deport them. America has always found innovative ways to solve big problems, and I believe this country will find a pragmatic way to solve this issue eventually - adopting a comprehensive immigration reform policy is a good start.

    • 3 years ago
  • bobfrog
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      bobfrog  
    • This Vanguard special on immigration hit home real hard for me. I got married about 2 years ago to a filipino that lives in Japan. I have been trying to leagally get her here for over a year now. Every time she goes in for interview they have another excuse to make it harder for us to be together. I have a lawyer and everything to do it leagally, but nothing seems to help. I'm almost ready to go to Japan and move into the embassy and stay there till they let her go.

    • 3 years ago
  • liquidjam
  • natdagod
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      natdagod  
    • The Borders Of American will eventually be tookin down by the Signing of the American Union..The money will all be the same and and Spanish Version of Star Spangle Banner...
      We will all be Required To Get American Union IDs...

      I saw a sneekin comercial on the ID change during the OLYPICS...IF anyone else saw this commercial please let me know where i can se it again...

      Our Driver Licence will not be VILID ID...
      Or it will Have a Chip in Them...:(
      Y Big Brother........Y?

    • 3 years ago
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