Exporting Gangs
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For more information about the drug wars in Mexico, watch the Vanguard episode, Narco War Next Door: http://current.com/items/89845362/narco_war_next_door.htm
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jaystyx
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I learned about this on gangland. Great show
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jaystyx
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current_nando
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Another great current pod... bye.
- 2 years ago
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current_nando
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poetryofpeace
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great story, thanks for this pod
- 2 years ago
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poetryofpeace
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nyingma13
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Interesting pod, but to blame the US for these thugs having chosen a life of crime is ingenuous and wrong. There are so many migrants-both legal and "illegal" who have not chosen a life of crime. If these people are being tainted by living in the US, why do they not all resort to crime? They are thugs, regardless of their coutry of origin, or which country they choose to spread their blight to.
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nyingma13
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AdrianBikes
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nyingma13:
But throwing them all in the same city is like pushing all your dirt under the same carpet, it's not a solution
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AdrianBikes
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terrellb
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this is interesting.
- 2 years ago
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terrellb
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martabettencourt
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very good pod
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martabettencourt
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tongE
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this is interesting because, as Americans, we should be aware of a future and current rise in mafia activities within the U.S. during times of economic (accelerated) decline. human trafficking, sex slavery, kidnapping, and various drug markets could expand and be born in many areas of the U.S. in the near future. One has to wonder what can be done if power from the center does diminish and we are left to fend for ourselves in a more individualistic society (compared to Mexico, but moreso compared to places in Asia).
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tongE
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milc
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Great pod, this is a huge problem in all of Central America especially El Salvador. The United States is exporting it's "organized" violent crime lifestyle to the world as a whole. We need to address this issue at it's core and stop passing the buck.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/latinamerica/la-fg-gangsarchive16-...
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milc
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newamerica2012
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milc:
"The United States is exporting it's organized violent crime lifestyle to the world?" An illegal crosses into America from Mexico, spends some time in the states doing who knows what, then gets caught committing a crime and as punishment gets deported back across the border. How the hell is this exporting crime? I believe you have it backwards, the US does more importing crime than exporting. About the only thing illegal going back to Mexico are these people and US firearms, and both are a directly related to the liberal immigration policies, the bogus war on drugs, the bogus war on terror and the failure of leadership in both the US and Mexican government. What should we do with illegal aliens who commit crimes or illegal aliens in general? House them, jail them, ignore them? The US does a lot of horrible things around the world, but this exporting of criminals is a bogus theory. And passing the buck? Oh, LA Times, I see. lol
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newamerica2012
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McGaspa
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milc:
Couldn't have put it better myself NewAmerica
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McGaspa
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milc
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milc:
Fellas, fellas
It is the culture of organized crime that we are exporting.
I am not sure what type of gang culture you have up there in Northwest Wisconsin living the 420 lifestyle consuming the very product that fuels the violence in Mexico (hopefully you grow your own).
Street gangs are a deadly American invention that kills those involved and innocents alike (including spring breakers bros). Deporting those that are involved in these gangs to other places only fortifies the reach of the clicks while obliterating indigenous culture in its wake.
There needs to be stronger preventative measures state side that stops these organizations from growing out. This in not a question about "illegals" for which you speak, but a question of a complacent culture that lives in fear of what they don't know. So the further you hate the further the momentum grows until you will have no choice but to acknowledge that denile ain't just a river in Egypt.
Maybe you should head across the border and get your guns back because you sir are a ¡maverick!
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milc
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Cheeeba
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milc:
You're another one of the reasons the U.S is in such a state of disorder. You think that every gang banging, gun slinging, bad boy deserves a second chance in the "Land of the Free". Well unfortunately the more chances you give a thug the less they learn and the more they start to take advantage of the system. And more over, people like you need a real dose of what is going on!
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Cheeeba
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newamerica2012
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milc:
Well milc, I grew up in both north and south Minneapolis and have lived in Los Angeles, Houston and Corpus Christi. So unfortunately, I know and understand the gang culture and have been a victim of it more than once. The 420 lifestyle consumes a product that should of been legalized, not decriminalized, many many years ago. Alcohol and tobacco have done more harm to our nation and it's people in the last 100 years than marijuana could do in 1 million. Drugs, particularly weed, have little to do with our gang problem directly, it's our ridiculous laws and the corruption of both governments that has allowed this menace to continue and thrive.
Springbreakers?! lol So far only one of the 1,000+ murdered this year because of the violent drug wars was an American, and he was a Mexican business owner who only resided in the US 4 months out of the year. There is NO epidemic of kidnapped and murdered springbreakers, I go to Mazatlan almost every year, and since 1990 I have had one incident and that was with another American. Most of the violence caused by the drug wars are in the border towns.
There needs to be tougher measures everywhere, but to say the illegal immigration problem is not a big part of the issue is to say you don't know what you're talking about. "Lives in fear of what they don't know." This is an assumption of people on your part. "Denial ain't just a river in Egypt." You know Mark Twain had another quote that I think suits you well. "It's better to stay silent and look like a fool, rather than speak and remove all doubt."
I have a Masters in hydroponics. ☺
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newamerica2012
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XR600
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milc:
You're full of it milc. How are you going to blame America first for Mexican criminals? How are we "passing the buck"? These people come from Mexico, cause trouble here, then we simply send them back. They should have at least been put in jail in Mexico. Essentially this policy encourages more illegal immigration because they are exempt from U.S. laws.
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XR600
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art0227
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interesting
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art0227
