The World's Toilet Crisis: Vanguard Trailer
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In this episode of Vanguard, Adam Yamaguchi travels to India, Singapore and Indonesia to understand why people don't use toilets and what's being done to end the practice of open defecation.
When human waste isn't contained or flushed down the toilet, it's everywhere -- in streets, open fields and, most dangerously, in the very water people drink. Adam investigates how countries are trying to solve an epidemic that few people want to talk about -- the world's toilet crisis.
"The World's Toilet Crisis" airs Wednesday, September 8 at 10/9c. For more, go to http://current.com/vanguard.
"Vanguard," airing weekly on Current TV Wednesdays at 10/9c, is a no-limits documentary series whose award-winning correspondents put themselves in extraordinary situations to immerse viewers in global issues that have a large social significance. Unlike sound-bite driven reporting, the show's correspondents, Adam Yamaguchi, Kaj Larsen, Christof Putzel and Mariana van Zeller, serve as trusted guides who take viewers on in-depth real life adventures in pursuit of some of the world's most important stories.
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Jimmy_Cabbs
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What an incredible episode! I was complety unaware of this world wide problem! When I now take a shit, I will not take it for granted. Thank You for again opening my eyes , educating my mind ,upsetting my stomach and making me loose my dinner!
- 5 months ago
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Jimmy_Cabbs
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Lissa1979
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I think Adam liked saying "shit" in almost every sentence. What a stomach turning documentary (but a good one)! Wonder how he got the short end of the stick to do this story.
- 10 months ago
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Lissa1979
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gatoga
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Oh Adam, how I love that you use the actual word 'shit' instead of feces!
- 1 year ago
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gatoga
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Dejan_Croatia
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what bothers me the most, is though this is great information!!! CURRENT TV CANNOT PUT THE FULL EPISODE ON ITS WEBSITE, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU CURRENT??
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Dejan_Croatia
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supmaguire
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Dejan_Croatia:
I just came back home from college, turned on Current, and watched a Snickers commercial.
...WHAT IS HAPPENING? - 11 months ago
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supmaguire
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zychowski
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Dejan_Croatia:
Sad move.
- 10 months ago
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zychowski
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Kofi_Opoku
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We all need to openly discuss this issue before it gets out of control.
Check out these posters on World Sanitation — http://flic.kr/p/8UiKbu
hopefully this will get us all started. - 1 year ago
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Kofi_Opoku
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thefuzzymode
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The reporter is correct...The toilet can be so much more. I concur with AaronNH. This was a great doc. but was sorely lacking in its coverage of a very important part in the progression of solving this crisis. It doesn't need to be about open cesspools and the use of water in order to make humanure as is covered in your doc. Waste can not only be safely taken care of but can literally be turned into black gold when used as soil for crops and within a very short amount of time. Anyone interested in checking out what we are typing about please use the following link: http://www.humanurehandbook.com/videos.html ...You might be pleasantly surprised at what you read and see.
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thefuzzymode
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thefuzzymode:
This only works on a small scale it is not feasible in a county like India. A great idea, I like your video.
- 10 months ago
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tnt666
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It's not a toilet crisis! It's a population crisis. Toilets have only been in existence for a couple of hundred years. There are too many people on this planet.
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tnt666
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AaronNH
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"The World's Toilet Crisis" was an opportunity to really address the horrible old Victorian idea of shitting in perfectly good H2O via a toilet. You guys fell short.
The world needs better options than our "first world" idea of the traditional toilet! Remember, the "first world" started the same as some of the places you showed. London was the same cess-pool you showcase in India back in the 19th century! I suggest looking up "The Humanure Handbook" by Joseph Jenkins or "The Toilet Papers" by Sim Van der Ryn. Jenkins book may not be practical for everyone, but even then, why were composting toilets not even mentioned in your segment? A traditional composting (more accurately a "dehydrating") toilet loses up to 90% of it's original mass due to the dehydration, decomposition and anaerobic respiration by naturally present bacterias and microbes.
Why is it that water seems to be inextricably linked with how we deal with our excreta? The only part of your segment that really demonstrated a solution was the fertilizer bit. Then only to have Adam make some stab about using it to grow food! That is what I'm doing in my own back yard, really! Let's not continue to be so close minded. I know our noses and mouths point the opposite direction from our assholes...but we'll never be able to sever our quite natural and daily connection with our colon!
These are the ideas we need to share with L.A., let alone Indonesia or India! Imagine if we all drank our precious water instead of shitting in it, eh?Thanks, Aaron in New Hampshire
froginsa@gmail.com - 1 year ago
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travelindave
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to many people to many babies to much ignorance and greed. get ready for a more shity world. hapatitus will be on the rise next / so scary
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travelindave
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zychowski
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travelindave:
Should I hand you the rope so you can begin solving the problem?
- 10 months ago
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zychowski
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Haley35
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Gota give you props man. Watched this the other day and Like Jamaecd said it was shocking but you left me with a little hope.
- 1 year ago
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Haley35
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Triminh_Huynh
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It's not only India , 90% of Vietnamese toilets are in the ponds, rivers and on the fields.... This shit-problem cut off all your visitors to your beautiful countries .
I think , the same " shit" happened in China, Bangladesh, Thailand, Indonesia ,Cambot,Laos ..... well ,all around Asia and Africa . - 1 year ago
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Jamaecd
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This show was a shocking tear-jerker for me. We are all humans living on the same planet. Why do we have so many inadequacies amongst us? This show is about our human dignity. When you close that door, and do your "business", and flush that toilet, think about the other 40% of our human race who have no such luxury and commit to doing something to decrease that number. Starting today. I will get involved and commit to making a difference.
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Jamaecd:
I spoke to my friend in India about this. He said that the Indian government does hand out grants for sewer treatment plants and the like. Unfortunately due to massive corruption, the money never gets where its supposed to go. Very sad.
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Mark701
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Huynh_Tri
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40% world population didn't have access to toilets, 50% world population has access to their toilets , but that's Not 20th century standard ( don't talk about 21st century -it's expensive !) they 're on 17th century toilets including VietNam, Cambotdia , Thailand ..... I was there , because of their toilets , I will never come back there ! That was the hell of smells and shits !
Thanks America standard of toilets . - 1 year ago
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Cracking_Cranium
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My attempt to "add to this world" through education:
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Cracking_Cranium
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Cracking_Cranium
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These people need birth control not toilets. An estimated 2.6 billion people, about 40% of the world's population, do not even have "a pot to piss in", but they reproduce like rabbits. I have no sympathy for these "poor, impoverished, and ignorant people". "Hey baby, I have no food, water or shelter... Wanna have sex?" Let them all die, its natural selection!
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Cracking_Cranium
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JuliusBC
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Cracking_Cranium:
Although there are bits of truth sprinkled in your comment, perhaps your mother should have kept her legs together and this would have left room for one of them. That would have been selective selection.
In contrast, they could become educated and learn some of your sprinkled truths and in the end make the world a better place. Some people add to this world while others don't, some people think they add much when in reality they actually add very little. Which one are you?
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JuliusBC
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Cracking_Cranium
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JuliusBC:
OK, the "Let them all die" comment was harsh, and does not help the problem or "add to the world". It reflects my disgust at the state of "this world", compounded by this disgusting subject.
I like what you said about education. The problem is not toilets, it is education. My parents had enough education to know: Do not have children unless you can provide for them. Providing for your children includes education. Education includes basic biology like how we reproduce. Education includes some simple hygiene, as in fecal matter is bad for you. If 2.6 billion people can not grasp these three simple concepts, then they are doomed anyway.
I choose to "add to this world" by helping better my local community. There is too much to do here, without worrying about third world toilets. Notice the piece begins: "A worldwide POPULATION EXPLOSION is creating a toilet crisis..." I choose to "add to this world", by not adding another person to this world for want of an orgasm.
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Cracking_Cranium
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JuliusBC
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Cracking_Cranium:
People used to die because they and doctors didn't understand that the lack of personal hygiene and not washing their hands was spreading disease and bacteria. In time, they stumbled upon this knowledge. If someone could have brought this to their attention sooner many lives would have been saved. The same applies here. If these people can be educated to what effect their habits are having, then many of these things causing their conditions can be corrected or at least diminished.
Sex drives are present everywhere around the world. Here at home we have people that can't seem to control it and have too many children even though they are incapable of taking care of them. The people over there and other similar places around the world may not know of birth control or perhaps can't afford it.
Granted, there is much to do here at home but we are now a world community on more levels than many care to admit. The thing that so many don't understand or believe is that on many levels we are all connected. If someone is driven to help other people elsewhere then this is what they should do. I can't go over there and do it so I am glad that someone is helping to make others aware. Perhaps some people that have the ability and means to help will be motivated to do what they can.
All life is precious regardless of their geographical location. Many of us here are lucky to have been born in a place where we get better educations and a far better level of life.
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JuliusBC
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tnt666
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JuliusBC:
oh please, Indians have one of the better educational systems in that region! They know full well that shit in water is unhealthy! I can't figure out if you're just plain naive or being outright condescending to Indians! They know better, but they continue to multiply anyway. It is their culture.
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tnt666
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JuliusBC
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tnt666:
Your parents knew better but they obviously continued to multiply as well; I guess it was their culture.
Whether or not any region has a better educational system is a bit naive and presumptuous on your part to assume that all occupants are equally exposed or have equal access to it. Even in the United States there are many areas that would meet the definition of having better educational systems and yet the population still has it's fair share of relatively unintelligent people or at the minimum, many that have failed to be educated.
India is one of the poorest nations and there are essentially two cast systems present. First, the rich and or well-to-do, secondly, the extremely poor. Many of the extremely poor make the equivalent of $200.00 American dollars a year. This is hardly enough to buy food beyond rice let alone the entrance to any educational system.
I have friends and relatives that are from India and many of them tell a much different story than the one you are trying to tell.
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JuliusBC
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tnt666
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JuliusBC:
I also have several acquaintances from India and they are religiously obsessed, cast obsessed, reproduction obsessed. 2 casts, that's funny. Casts are simply India's indentured slavery system, and the majority choose not to fight it, because it's their "culture". They marry away little girls and shun widows, because it's their culture. Indians are among North America's most educated immigrants, unfortunately, even with eduction, they remain politically illiterate.
And my parents were among the first generation to reduce procreation. Historally catholics had huge families, but doing away with religion has reduced the urge to procreate. Today's Canadian youth procreate even less. Nothing is instant.
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tnt666
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I do not understand why anyone would live this way. This is very disturbing. Why in this day and age would people live like this ? this just makes no sense. Also no I am afraid to buy organic foods as they may be grown in this type of fertilizer. No wonder they have such a high infant mortality rate.
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Alibayev_Tleuzhan
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People just stupid. Why they are taking shit to the river. They simply can make toilets by their own hands. Wooden toilet it's so simple. A deep hole in the ground and a wooden toilet on it.. that's it. In Russia a lot of people use them and no one take a shit where they are eat. If people don't know or just don't wont to do it I don't know what to say further... Disgusting
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Alibayev_Tleuzhan:
This is just one example.
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JuliusBC:
Here is a better example of one from a ghost town in California.
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JuliusBC
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saflusa
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Shocked by this story and "just the facts"! This needs to really get out. Cultural disregard for hygiene and defecation "technology" must be showcased. I am more worried about what is in the water than what is in the air -- globally. Adam Yamaguchi did a great service by doing this story. He deserves the "Golden Throne" Award! I am telling everyone I know about this story and I am looking to see if I can donate a toilet. Considering the early historical use of toilets in Europe......I am flabbergasted by the "sustainability" of this ignorance in China and India. No country should be allowed to host the Olympics that doesn't provide basic infrastructure to its own citizens.
Public Health & Infection Control nurses unite! THIS IS HORRIBLE.
Suggestion to the Global Governors -- Tax anyone without a toilet and SEPTIC TANK that isn't on city sewer lines. Provide urban and suburban infrastructures for sewage treatment and collection zones around every river, stream and contaminated body of water.
I favor international TRADE INJUNCTIONS until minimally hygienic defecation is instituted globally.......and international inspectors give them "Charmin" certification! - 1 year ago
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saflusa:
Interesting-
Just some thoughts:-This is a global issue but the main focus was on Indonesia and India, but I'm sure China has it's issues....if so what are the concerns?
-Can poor people without toilets or plumbing really afford to be taxed for not having toilets and deficating outside?
-Trade injunctions....aww, no fair - 1 year ago
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maebenot
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This episode was very eye opening. It reminds us all of everything we take for granted sometimes. What I failed to understand was why some of what seems to me like basic common was not put to use to help ease up the problem. I agree simply burying the "shit" would at least prevent less tracking and smell and what about designating one area in the village as the shit area and not just anywhere they decide to squat, literally. It also doesn't make sense to wash your self after doing your business in the same water that later you're going to have to drink from. I don't think doing any of these things takes money or can't be done because of oppression and poverty.
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Hans_Anggraito
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this was SHIT-tastic!!! Don't get me wrong, I love that current tv is shedding light on the issue. but i thought it was lacking the historical background of structural/institutional oppression that the poor in indonesia is sufferring from. The film somehow overlooked how or why the indonesian poor folk ended up without the access to such facilities in the first place (running water, adequate sewage system). It is quite telling when the program quoted a study from the world bank about how lack of public sanitation is driving down the country's GDP (well no shit, einstein) without even mentioning the structural adjustments imposed by the world bank (or his twin bro the IMF) onto 'global south' countries (like indonesia). The structural adjustment requires divestment from necessary public infrastructures (e.g. education, transportation, sanitation, etc) in order to benefit private multi-national corporations and 1st world countries. To somehow mask the root of the problem and only to show that "this is the simply the way 3rd world poor lives" is deeply patronizing. And to somehow offer the only solution of clever entreprenuership (entre-manuer-ship?) is naive and ultimately damaging. I will say seeing adam bending down his fine ass so many times placated me a tiny bit from what otherwise a typically condescending and self-congratulatory documentary we've all seen a thousand times before. This film could've been so much more but instead it is more or less equivalent to a commercial of james dobson building water wells for poor african children.
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C_M
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Wow, this was definitely and eye opener- I really like the community involvement movement in Indonesia, and hopefully the same program (tweaked culturally, obviously) could work in India and many other countries who have public defecation. This was a very educational social piece- Damn, India..talk about the lake of fire..a lake that farts- wow.
Kudos to you Adam- kudos! - 1 year ago
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C_M
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Teleterry
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Adam... You have done such a good job. I could never have imagined it as vividly as you captured in this episode. Something like a toilet is such a normal thing that it is hard to understand what it would be without. It really is shocking how many are without and seeing those individuals working at getting the toilets installed was very heart warming. I will never use a toilet again without being thankful for those that came before me to make it a standard way of life here in the USA.
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Kaitlin_Corona
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I am so glad that this story was aired! I am a Registered Nurse, as well as have a Bachelor's of Science degree in Environmental Studies, with a concentration in Environmental Law and Policy from the University of Environmental Science and Forestry in Syracuse, NY. I did a lengthy paper on this topic about 4 years ago. Something needs to be done about the World's clean water shortage, and I am so thankful that Vanguardis raising public awareness. Most people in the United States are very disconnected from the way the rest of the world lives. Everything in nature flows in a cyclical rhymth, with every facet of the environment exchanging and interacting. It won't be too long before everyone feels the effects of the clean water crisis. The most directly affected are the poor who have no one advocating for environmental justice on their behalf.
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Shayla_Hood
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Yo, I have neva n my life even remotely imagined n e thing of dis nature existed n da world. As I watched dis episode I was blown away, especially wen he began to speak about wat da children have to endure. I looked at my son n thanked da Lord I was born n america cuz i couldve been n da same situation had i been born wit different parents n a different part of da world. We get pissed off wen our government do fucked up things to us dat effects us but n no way do we even go thru wat they go thru on the eastern part of the world. Next my time state (NY) or even da federal government do sumthing hurtful , dumb as hell or just plain fucked up, I wil think twice before I begin to complain cuz it could b just the same ove here in america.
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smartbunny
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Shayla_Hood:
You have a charming and folksy way of talking.
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smartbunny
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smartbunny:
Responding to your China question ---- in exploring I just got more info online. Not targeting China alone but holding the rising nation to much higher standards than they apparently do themselves. There is always a reason. There is always self-deception in the rationale. China could have and should have higher health standards.
It's a sad state of affairs for all toiletless folks AND those without potable water.FYI -- SAFLUSA’s
ONLINE RESEARCH --- quotable excerptsOf the 1.1 billion people reported to relieve themselves outdoors, 638 million live in India, followed by 58 million in Indonesia, and 50 million in China. Because of population growth, the percentage of people recorded as practicing “open defecation” decreased by 25 percent, even though the actual number of people in this category increased by 36 million
The public toilets in China are regarded as among the world's worst. They are often dirty, smelly and disgusting and many non-Chinese find them "unusable." Some are out in open and people have to squat in full view of everyone; others have pigs eating the shit underneath them. Chinese writers complained about dirty toilets as far back as the 11th century B.C. and a popular saying these days is "finding a toilet is as hard as going to heaven."
Beijing especially is infamous for its disgusting public toilets. About a fifth of the complaints received the Beijing Consumer's Association are related to Beijing's public toilets. The ones in the hutongs have traditionally been used by entire neighborhoods and communities and stink to high heaven. eijing have offered large sums of money for better public toilet designs. Some hotels have signs in bathrooms that read: "Guest may not perform urination in sink basin."
Shanghai, a city with 13 million people, has only 1,104 public toilets and Beijing, with 10 million people, has 6,800. In 1993, 70 percent of the population of Beijing used public toilets, today about 20 percent use them. Most of the waste from urban toilets ends up in tanks that are emptied by vans or men with wheelbarrows and ultimately sent to the countryside to be used as night soil (See Agriculture).
After the Communist closed down tea houses and cafes as being decadent, public toilets often served as meeting places in Beijing. It became common for people to socialize seated on toilets with no doors or partitions. The practice went along with Communist teachings for people to eschew secrets and share everything (See Society, Privacy). At some public toilets, Chinese pretend to squat and refuse to move unless they are given money.Globally, 1.2 billion people practise open defecation,
83 per cent of whom live in 13 countriesPopulation practising open
defecation, by countries with highest prevalence in 2006 (millions)India, 665
Indonesia, 66
Ethiopia, 52
Pakistan, 50
China, 37
Nigeria, 29
Brazil, 18
Bangladesh, 18
Sudan, 14
Nepal, 14
Niger, 11
Viet Nam, 10
Mozambique, 10
Rest of world, 205SOURCE www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/monitoring/sanitation.pdf
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saflusa:
RE: Population practicing open defecation is VERY interesting- thanks for the info. I learn something new everyday.
India 665 million- wow! - 1 year ago
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SomariJade
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Im thankful for having indoor pluming and a porceline throne.
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tnt666
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SomariJade:
the throne is not how Homo sapiens was meant to do it! And sitting on that throne causes hemorroids. Making deep holes in the ground is not the answer either, as that simply pollutes the water table. The SOLUTION IS LESS REPRODUCTION, condoms, sterilisations, abortions, available for everyone.
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u shoulda make a short movie about ur team cause they work hard also on getting the background information =) ---if u did already tell me please by the way found this site today and i have to say good job
+1 thing u could make better in the film about crap all over the world the majority of the impressions were like "we show u what we want u to see" like all people happy when they finally got a toilet , yes of course it betters their life over a long process but for now where shall they take the money from, arent their more improtant things for them then conterminated water like staying alive? -sry for wrong gramma and stuff--- german+pretty young
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JuliusBC
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wallah:
The contaminated water is part of what is killing them.
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JuliusBC
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sonalshawn
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To all of you who wrote ignorant comments about people's situations that you yourselves have never experienced or come close to experiencing (poverty), you should be more aware of your own potential for compassion and understanding.
Typically, people are living in poverty because of political corruption within any given society. These people are not educated about the importance of hygiene, much in the same way that you are not educated in the fields of engineering, biology, chemistry or the like.
What is the point in making inhumane comments about people who are suffering? These people are suffering because people like us do nothing and use up too much of the earth's resources. Think about your life and realize that you are privledged because someone looked after you and cared for you; and, you just happen to be born into a rich country. You didn't do anything special to get your toliet or anything else you achived in life. You could just have easily been born without a toilet.
Don't talk poorly about someone if you have never walked in their shoes.
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sonalshawn:
And the most corrup societies are the most religious and the most baby producing. They suffer "so" because they spend too much time praying and not enough time doing for themselves. Religion ensures the masses remain politically illiterate.
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tnt666
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JuliusBC
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tnt666:
Here I can agree with you to a fairly high degree on your first sentence. Religion generally makes the topic of sex relatively high on the ladder of taboo and tends to incite the curiosity of their young. Dabbling with taboo tends to make people horny so their children fall prey to the tantalizing effects of sex.
One of the bible's first commandments is for Adam and Eve to go out and multiply and replenish the earth. Many of the religious folk take this quest quite seriously; the Mormon's are the classic, and numerous Catholic priests feel compelled to attempt it but it seems the little boys that fall victim are incapable.
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JuliusBC
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Great episode. Really enlightening, and should be really influential. I feel like it would be even more influential though of Yamaguchi wasn't saying "shit" the entire episode though. It almost makes it like a joke. It would be much more pro if he said feces and defecate. Good episode nonetheless.
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QuestionGeek
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Can't these people at least build outhouses or latrines? Dumb asses! (no pun intended)
I admire Yamaguchi's bravery to take on such an assignment. Being the executive producer I find it hard to believe he had to be the one that was so much in the forefront during this investigation and reporting.
India is so gross, it's not even funny. They also have tons of chemical sewage they are not dealing with properly
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QuestionGeek:
whats sad is that you fail to see the suffering these people go through daily, due to diesease from poor sanitation. India still has a caste system in place, so many of the people affected by these deplorable conditions have absolutely no way out, and are indeed victims.
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frank_runyeon
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Talk about a thankless assignment Adam. I'd love to know how you ended up with it. Did you volunteer? The short straw? Who's idea was it originally?
At any rate, kudos for taking it on... but I won't be eating prior to watching this one.
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frank_runyeon
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DHylton
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Human fecal matter used to be considered a valuable agricultural fertilizer before widespread use of petrol-based fertilizers. Japanese farmers in the past actually paid travelers to relieve themselves in the fields. Now it seems that, in some parts of the world, the stuff is not only undesirable, but also hated for widespread infection and death. What a shame the people don't understand what a valuable resource they are sitting on. Here are a few ideas aid organizations might consider in solving the problem of infectious diseases. First, the simplest solution is to encourage people to at least bury their waste. That will at least keep somebody else from stepping into it. Also, soil micro-organisms can decompose fecal matter much more rapidly if it's underground or in a composter. For high waste-production centers, particularly in areas without much hope of building a sewer system, I recommend composting. Aerobic composting may be the better solution when disease is a concern, but it requires a carefully-measured 30:1 carbon/nitrogen mix. A correctly-mixed compost pile with a volume of 1 cubic meter or more, can sustain temperatures above 70 degrees Celsius, a key level necessary to kill many pathogenic organisms. Another slower, but just as effective, composting method developed in Japan is called EM Bokashi. EM Bokashi has been used in large-scale composting and water-purification projects with success. I've also heard of using shellfish to successfully clean polluted waterways.
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DHylton:
I highly doubt any of these people know what any of those things are. If they knew what a carbon/nitrogen mix ratio was, they wouldn't be in this situation to be honest.
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dariusvons
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toilets aren’t magic... they need the infrastructure first. This is like worrying about a broken wheel on our cart when we don’t even have a horse to pull the cart in the first place… plumbing water and sewage BEFORE toilets. I’d recommend the good old outhouse and pit thing… but they also need jobs and an infrastructure would provide that. So I guess the problem is who’s going to start it and finance it right? I don’t have the answer to that.
- 1 year ago
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dariusvons
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Almibry
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dariusvons:
You think all the dead babies would motivate theses people to take care of it without getting paid.
- 1 year ago
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Almibry
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dariusvons
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Almibry:
well, dead babies won't motivate me for shit... no punn, so i doubt that's the campaign for success. I think the push SHOULD be in terms of future success, being JOBS. seems to me there is a lot of work to be done... why is nobody making a fortune on this? perhaps they just don't care and don't see it as a problem?
just look at what we do in the US, somebody is doing this job, somebody is making a living off this. they're poor and need jobs, hey guess what!
- 1 year ago
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dariusvons
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JuliusBC
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dariusvons:
When someone begins to make a fortune on this, they will put up a fence and establish a border patrol, start asking for people's papers and cry because someone is stealing their jobs, freeloading on their health-care and taking advantage of the system.
- 1 year ago
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JuliusBC
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dariusvons
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JuliusBC:
I smell toast... like a little bit of charred america... burn! voted up!
- 1 year ago
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dariusvons
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smartbunny
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I have not watched the episode yet, but plumbing has not existed for that long. Animals go to the bathroom in the forest and the jungle. Human waste is also biodegradable. Is there not a simple way to contain waste and keep it away from food and water supplies? It does not seem like something that is terribly hard to figure out.
- 1 year ago
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smartbunny
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JuliusBC
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smartbunny:
Rumor has it that the first aqueduct is dated back to sometime around 691 BC in Assyria. The Greeks were next and then followed by the Romans to construct aqueducts. They also had indoor plumbing. Much of what we do with plumbing now was initially based off of the Roman Empires way of doing things. They even had a utility system set up much like the ones we have today. A book of such records and dealings has been discovered. I forget the name of it now but it can be found with a bit of searching.
http://science.discovery.com/videos/what-the-ancients-knew-roman-plumbing.html
- 1 year ago
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JuliusBC
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dariusvons
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smartbunny:
while rare, plumbing of some sort has been around since 2700 bc or earlier.
- 1 year ago
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dariusvons
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smartbunny:
Of course you haven't watched it yet, it hasn't aired yet silly. LOL!
- 1 year ago
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QuestionGeek
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smartbunny
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QuestionGeek:
Of course, but I wanted to qualify before I made any "suggestions" about what can be done with the problem there. I may have said something that was covered in the story already.
- 1 year ago
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smartbunny
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Almibry
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I couldn't help but notice that this commercial is different than the one on TV... The one that flashed a dead baby at me... Without warning... THAT was fucked up man.
- 1 year ago
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Almibry
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dariusvons
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Almibry:
dead baby! dead baby! dead baby! I think I'm going to make shirts.
- 1 year ago
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dariusvons
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versasrev
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I liked the first single utterance of "shit", after that though it gets redundant and losses it's potency.
- 1 year ago
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versasrev
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dariusvons
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versasrev:
oh, you're one of those... "I don't like certain words"... would you rather he say poop? dung? feces? fecal mater? butt nuggets? or maybe butt fuge?
- 1 year ago
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dariusvons
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versasrev
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dariusvons:
I'm talking about the power of the word, not whether it is inappropriate in a general sense. A powerful word losses its significance as such, if it is used to often. Besides variety is the spice of life. I think the initial usage of the word "shit" was significant and an overall good choice for the story intro; however I think multiple uses brings down it's impact.
- 1 year ago
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versasrev
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JuliusBC
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versasrev:
One thing is for certain, no matter what you call it, it still stinks.
- 1 year ago
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JuliusBC
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dariusvons:
Actually I would. Poop is a four letter word, but shit is an offensive sounding four letter word. It's all mental conditioning I know, but it is what it is.
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Almibry
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versasrev:
I think he should have used the opportunity to use every word for shit we've ever invented.
- 1 year ago
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Almibry
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versasrev
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Almibry:
Talk about busting out the thesaurus. Now that would've been a level of creativity to command some praise.
- 1 year ago
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versasrev
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dariusvons
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Almibry:
agreed, how often does one have the chance to use them all in a valid way?
- 1 year ago
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dariusvons
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JuliusBC
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Actually, these people could at least dig a deep hole instead of poopin on the open ground and in the water. I know their conditions are deplorable in many cases but at least it would improve their current situation.
- 1 year ago
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JuliusBC
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Almibry
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JuliusBC:
It wouldn't help unless it was a deep whole far away from the water.
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Almibry
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raylinmarie
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JuliusBC:
You have a good point...
- 1 year ago
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raylinmarie
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JuliusBC
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Almibry:
The further the better but even still, if it is in a hole then more than one can use the same spot instead of plops all over the bank or in it.
- 1 year ago
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JuliusBC
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dariusvons
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Almibry:
even on the bank! it's better than IN THE RIVER!!!
- 1 year ago
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dariusvons
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JuliusBC
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dariusvons:
Your comment is spot on...
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JuliusBC
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Almibry
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dariusvons:
No because water sinks underground. And when it rains the underground shitwater mixes with the underground riverwater and you get typhoid.
- 1 year ago
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Almibry
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dariusvons
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Almibry:
so... you're saying that shitting in the river is better than shitting in a hole in the ground?
- 1 year ago
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dariusvons
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Almibry
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dariusvons:
I'm saying if the whole is anywhere near the river, it doesn't make a difference. I just decided to share some information, what you do with it is your choice.
- 1 year ago
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Almibry
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JuliusBC
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Kids used to have ant farms they could watch and grow. When they got tired of them they just let them go. Well maybe they need to have a dung beetle farm as well. In cases of larger poopulations they could introduce them to steroids and then set them free.
Seriously though, maybe they could transplant some of these beetles to some of these outlying areas. It might help.
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JuliusBC
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Found_Avenue
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40 percent of the earth's population...
Wow.This is crucial stuff here. Vanguard really does go where all other investigative journalists fear to tread. Keep up the outstanding work.
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Found_Avenue
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iamaman
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Found_Avenue:
"fear to tread"
good one!
- 1 year ago
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