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“Circus” is too orderly a metaphor for today’s unhinged politics. “Entertainment” overstates, considering so many labor to hear Obama finish a speech or Romney a sentence – before gagging. “Mayhem” underplays the massive right-serving payola that informs both party’s texts and sub-texts. Deluged by witless untruths that affront even centrist Republicans, let’s pose this thought experiment: “When do we get ‘stand our intellectual ground’ shield laws against mental mugging?”“Circus” is too orderly a metaphor for today’s unhinged politics.... more
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The EC works by you voting for someone called a Elector in November. It may say you are voting for a candidate, but in reality you are telling your state electors how you want them to vote for President. Each state has its own number of Electors based on population. But somewhere someone messed up because some states have more that are supposed to have less. In November you cast your vote telling the Electors what President, you want them to vote for. Then In December the Electors tell Congress who the President will be.
This can cause problems like in the 2000 Presidential Election. This bring me to who chooses the Electors ? Well no other then the Political parties. They elect their own Electors. Seems weird to me. But there are rules for the Electors, supposably Electors aren't allowed to vote against their states. Their have been cases in the past where 83 people have voted against their states. Also Electors can choose not to vote at all. Resulting in the other candidate gaining more Electoral votes. American has an indirect voting system for head of state. The People vote for Electors who vote for President. But they don't have to vote. Seems confusing ? Well because it is.
This even confused my parents and they still don't understand how the people vote.
I have showed them proof from different websites and they say its too confusing.
This is a big problem in voting, no one knows how the system really works.
I'm really scared my parents will never understand how the voting system works.
They don't believe that this is even possible.
I believe we should replace this system with Direct Elections with The Alternative Vote.
Sources -
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/about.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k&feature=relmfu
Alternative Vote Explained -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting
http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/alternative-vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE&feature=channel_video_title
First Past The Post Voting -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo&feature=channel_video_title
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"Creating over-reaching solutions for non-existent problems is what California legislators are good at. A textbook example of this is a bill awaiting Gov. Jerry Brown’s signature which would change the state’s Electoral College process.
AB 459 passed in the Legislature in July without any Republican votes. It would provide a boost to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact movement."
http://www.calwatchdog.com/2011/08/02/voting-out-the-electoral-college/
http://www.fairvote.org/national-popular-vote
"Equality is fundamental to representative democracy. Everyone's vote should be equal when electing the president. Our current Electoral College system, grounded in state law, leads presidential candidates to concentrate their resources on voters in a handful of swing states, relegating the vast majority of the country to spectator status. FairVote advocates for direct election of the president, and has nurtured and supported the National Popular Vote plan to ensure that every vote for president is equally valued no matter where it is cast."
In the ongoing struggle of the PEOPLE to have their voice heard and to regain control of their government, many states are enacting "Popular Vote" legislation which assigns all of that states Electoral votes to the person with the greatest number of direct individual votes. When a critical number of states have enacted such legislation, it will become a nationwide practice. The issue largely divides along party lines, with the left voting to give the vote to the PEOPLE, while the right wants to maintain the manipulated and distorted practices of the electoral college. While to truly make our presidential elections democratic we should eliminate the electoral college all together, this is a temporary, although not necessarily a permanent solution; as it could be overturned in the future. While you wait for an organized protest for replacing the electoral college with with one person / one vote elections in your state, please contact your state legislators and ask for "Popular Vote" legislation."Creating over-reaching solutions for non-existent problems is what California... more
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All who will join in organizing a task force to identify the top ten ideas required to begin reforming our nation for the benefit of the PEOPLE, and to identify those persons who can be entrusted to embrace and promote these ideas, and launch a website to raise money to support a candidate who will endorse and run for president on a platform of these ideas, please identify yourselves herein or contact us privately. We need both tech and media savvy individuals and those who can connect with various action groups, as well as the college community.
Our sole purpose is to reform government in ways which will return the power and control of government and this nation to the people, which are the body and soul of this nation, and from which all authority derives. After organizing a working structure, and along with our general mission, we will simultaneously campaign for the first two most crucial issues to reclaiming our rightful control of government. Both issues relate to reinstating the direct voice, power, influence and vote in government which the influence of corporate money in government has eroded, if not eliminated.
No. 1, is National Referendum Votes. This will give the people a direct vote and voice in any single or group of steps which we might choose to vote directly on. Without the National Referendum ( direct ) Vote, we will never be able to bypass the influence of money which continuously bribes our elected legislators in both parties, and we will always be swaying in the wind of corrupted government theatrics that accomplish nothing but further deteriorating the PEOPLE'S rights and properties. With the National Referendum Vote, however, we will be able to address and correct every other issue which now contributes to our individual and collective pain and decline.
No. 2, is to replace the Electoral College fraudulent voting system with one person / one vote general elections. The Electoral College was designed for a time when the population was wholly ignorant and uninformed. Today, with public education; (although Corporatocracy is trying to eradicate that), and the mass media of the internet, the PEOPLE are sufficiently educated, informed, and aware to justify returning the responsibility of casting their own votes. The current Electoral College has, and continues to, permitted the corrupt practice of "gerrymandering", redistricting for the purpose of manipulating election outcomes, every time Republicans can finagle the scam. This practice subverts and often nullifies the PEOPLE'S actual voting will. Once we replace the corrupt system with one person / one vote direct elections, we will be able to get campaign finance reform through congress, along with numerous other corrective measures, and be on a direct fast track to restoring to ourselves and this country all that we are entitled to. Please join in.All who will join in organizing a task force to identify the top ten ideas required to... more
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No matter how bad & broken government is just now, we can fix it and turn it all around. But, we can only do this with a direct voice and vote, not a diluted, subverted, and manipulated vote. We can only achieve this by DEMANDING the National Referendum Vote, and replacing the Electoral College with one person / one vote elections. When the PEOPLE have a direct vote and say in our life and future, which we do not now have, and only then can we correct everything that is wrong with this country. Every evil that has been legislated against us, can be undone with a National Referendum Vote. Take to the street with your family and your neighbors and demand that which we are entitled to. Check out this site to begin with and build from there.
http://www.nationalreferendum.org/No matter how bad & broken government is just now, we can fix it and turn it all... more
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Iowa lawmakers are considering changing the way the state’s presidential votes are counted as part of a national effort to break from the Electoral College system.
The proposal is moving through the state Senate and so far has generated little opposition.
"This is the real deal," Sen. Pam Jochum, D-Dubuque, said Wednesday.Iowa lawmakers are considering changing the way the state’s presidential votes... more
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Barack Obama is officially the next president of the United States, Congress declared Thursday in fulfilling its centuries-old constitutional duty to certify and tally the electoral college vote from each state.Barack Obama is officially the next president of the United States, Congress declared... more
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For over a century, omitting the 1956 election of president Eisenhower, the state of Missouri has accurately selected the winning candidate for presidency in its statewide elections.
In recent elections attention has been drawn back to Missouri's tendency to mirror national trends/values. Examples include the 2006 election of democrat senator Claire McCaskill during a critical switch in party control of the Senate and house, and the approval of stem cell research.
Missouri also voted for the two succesful primary candidates, Barack Obama and John McCain.
However, now that 100 percent of Missouri's precincts have been counted, it appears that Missouri selected the losing candidate in the 2008 presidential election, John McCain, by an incredibly narrow margin of 5853, with 2879301 votes cast in total.
This breaks the fifty year streak of the bellwether state, and only seems to confirm that Missouri could be facing a slight loss in demographic relevance.
This also seems congruous alongside the trend of this past election in breaking former trends and re-defining traditional state roles in national elections.For over a century, omitting the 1956 election of president Eisenhower, the state of... more
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“THE conception of political equality from the Declaration of Independence, to Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, to the Fifteenth, Seventeenth and Nineteenth Amendments can mean only one thing — one person, one vote,” the Supreme Court ruled almost a half-century ago. Yet the framers of the Constitution made this aspiration impossible, then and now....
An interesting explanation on just how much your vote counts under the Electoral College system.“THE conception of political equality from the Declaration of Independence, to... more
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This was by far the most common McCain victory scenario, occurring 169 times out of 10,000 simulations this afternoon:
...this would be a boring ol' map. Obama wins everything that either Al Gore or John Kerry won. McCain wins everything else. Problem for McCain: this becomes a losing map if he loses Colorado, and -- although I think Sean's maybe a little too quick to call the state for the blue team -- Obama's lead in early voting there will make things tough for McCain.
(more scenarios at the link)This was by far the most common McCain victory scenario, occurring 169 times out of... more
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Democrat Barack Obama enters the final lap of his presidential bid with the chance to remake the nation's electoral map, with polls showing him leading in at least a half-dozen states that President Bush carried in 2004.
Republican John McCain hopes a last-minute shift by undecided voters could help him capture toss-up states like Florida, Ohio, Indiana, Missouri and North Carolina and reverse Obama's momentum in Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico and Iowa.
With the exception of Pennsylvania, a traditionally Democratic state where McCain is making a last-ditch stand, the entire campaign is being fought on GOP turf. In a sign of the uphill climb McCain faces, even reliably red states such as Montana, Georgia and North Dakota are up for grabs.
Obama heads into election day in an enviable position: Democrats are flocking to the polls in huge numbers in early voting, especially African Americans. He has extensive get-out-the-vote operations even in GOP strongholds like Indiana. He has enough surplus cash that he's running last-minute TV ads in Arizona, McCain's home state, which would only turn blue in a shocking upset.
The McCain campaign still sees a path to victory, but it's a narrow one. He must hang on to both of the big swing states Bush won narrowly in 2000 and 2004 - Ohio and Florida - while avoiding losses in GOP bastions like Virginia, Indiana and North Carolina. He is playing for an upset victory in Pennsylvania - which backed Democrat John Kerry in 2004 and has 21 electoral votes - in case Obama wins one or more red states that are now leaning his way.
(more at the link)Democrat Barack Obama enters the final lap of his presidential bid with the chance to... more
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Zombie argues that Electoral College is out-of-date and that our contemporary, 24/7 news-channel society needs a better solution to our "one-citizen/one-vote" delimma. Check it!Zombie argues that Electoral College is out-of-date and that our contemporary, 24/7... more
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This Electoral College Prediction Tracker looks like fun. You can get your own at The Take Away. This Electoral College Prediction Tracker looks like fun. You can get your own at The... more
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I finally figured out the Electoral College! Thank you Schoolhouse Rock!
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With the election a mere week hence and the presidential candidates making their final appeals to voters in swing states tirelessly this week, it seems that Columbia political science professors have been all but missing out on the action. That is of course, until now.
According to the popular electoral projections website fivethirtyeight.com, founded in March by baseball sabermetrics whiz Nate Silver, a calculation of the odds of your vote actually deciding the outcome of the upcoming election in the contested states of New Mexico, New Hampshire, Virginia or Colorado yielded a whopping 1 in 10,000,000 chance.
Five Thirty Eight (the grand total of electors in the American electoral college) gleaned this information from the recent and ever-so-sleek projection of none other than Silver's good friend, Columbia professor Andrew Gelman, author of Red State, Blue State.
Bwog invites you to look at Gelman's nifty electoral regression and chuckle at how meaningless your vote actually might prove to be this year. With the election a mere week hence and the presidential candidates making their final... more
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How West Virginia came to grips with Obama's rise..... video.
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The web page 538.com gives up to date polls and predictions. Looks like Barack is pulling away. Keep up the good work peopleThe web page 538.com gives up to date polls and predictions. Looks like Barack is... more
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With 30 days until Nov. 4, Karl Rove projects that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) would get at least 273 electoral votes – three more than are needed to win – if the presidential election were held today.
But Rove warns that this race is “susceptible to rapid changes,” so no definite prediction is possible.
The remarkable forecast from the architect of the last two nationwide political victories underscores the straits that have rapidly enveloped Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) as the banking and credit crisis spread.
Rove writes on Rove.com: “39 new state polls released in the first three days of October have given Barack Obama his first lead over the magic number of 270 since mid-July. Minnesota (10 EV) and New Hampshire (4 EV) both moved from toss-up to Obama, giving him 273 electoral votes to McCain’s 163, with 102 votes remaining as a toss-up.
“If the election were held today, Obama would win every state John Kerry won in 2004, while adding New Mexico (5 EV), Iowa (7 EV), and Colorado (9 EV) to his coalition. Remember, though, that these state polls are a lagging indicator and most do not include any surveying done after the vice-presidential debate on Thursday night.”
Rove cautioned on “Fox News Sunday”: “Remember, the campaign ebbs and flows. What we're seeing here is a result of the focus of the American people, voters, on the economic problems that have dominated the news the last several weeks. What's happened then is a shift to Obama.
“Just remember, 17 days ago in the electoral college, McCain led 227 to 216. Fifteen days ago, on the eve of the news on the bailout, he led 216-215.This race is susceptible to rapid changes and we're likely to see, in the remaining four weeks, more changes.”
On “Meet the Press” on Sunday, NBC News Political Director Chuck Todd said Obama is still one state away from solidifying the 270 electoral votes he needs to win the White House. Colorado, Virginia or Florida would put it away for Obama if the election were held today, Todd said.
“Even if it’s Nevada [making the total] 269, it sends it to the House, where Democrats have an advantage,” Todd said. “As it stands today, John McCain would have to run the table. Now, good news for him: They’re all states that voted Republican four years ago.With 30 days until Nov. 4, Karl Rove projects that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) would... more
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Click the link to see the latest polls, and also the total of Electoral College Votes, state by state. Click the link to see the latest polls, and also the total of Electoral College Votes,... more
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Amongst Evangelical Christians, at this point in the election, Bush had a 78% approval rating while McCain now has 67% approval rating. Palin appears to have had little or no affect on this voter group.
The last two weeks have shown a marked change in the electoral college standings of the two candidates.
This week will tell us if the trend lines are continuing to show a widening gap between the two candidates.
I believe this is the first election where the internet is having a major impact on voters who no longer trust mainstream media to give them accurate and complete information. The internet is forcing the major media outlets to be more even handed.
Amongst Evangelical Christians, at this point in the election, Bush had a 78% approval... more
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