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Gov. Sarah Palin did not crash, she did not burn, but she also did not answer the question.
Governor Palin began the debate with a request to keep things informal, asking Senator Biden at the handshake, "Hey, can I call you Joe?" From there, it was a short trip to attempting a connection with working class voters and the proverbial "Joe Six Pack."
But in addition to viewing the actual debate questions as optional, Palin's strategy when things got uncomfortable was to stray into energy no matter what the original topic.
Asked about her greatest weakness, Governor Palin talked about her strengths and her marriage and her executive skills and the shining city on the hill.
Asked about Afghanistan, she got the name of the commander there wrong, misquoted him, and tried to scold Senator Biden for getting the quotes right.
Asked about Iraq, she got the number of troops there, wrong.
Asked about X, she answered about Y, and on at least one occasion said in advance she would not answer the moderator's question.Keith Olbermann
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WASHINGTON - Republican Sarah Palin criticized a version of a Barack Obama health care plan that doesn't exist and Democrat Joe Biden clung to a misleading charge about Republicans and big oil when the two clashed in the vice presidential debate Thursday.
Some examples of facts cast adrift in the debate:
PALIN: Said of Democratic presidential candidate Obama: "94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction."
THE FACTS: The dubious count includes repetitive votes as well as votes to cut taxes for the middle class while raising them on the rich. An analysis by factcheck.org found that 23 of the votes were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all, seven were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, 11 would have increased taxes on only those making more than $1 million a year.
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BIDEN: Complained about "economic policies of the last eight years" that led to "excessive deregulation."
THE FACTS: Biden voted for 1999 deregulation that liberal groups are blaming for part of the financial crisis today. The law allowed Wall Street investment banks to create the kind of mortgage-related securities at the core of the problem now. The law was widely backed by Republicans as well as by Democratic President Clinton, who argues it has stopped the crisis today from being worse.
---more at link--- WASHINGTON - Republican Sarah Palin criticized a version of a Barack Obama health... more
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Yes indeedy, Palin's ready to lead the nation, presiding with empty platitudes and cutesy, folksy phrases pouring from her red lips, even when they often had nothing to do with the questions. “Let’s commit ourselves just everyday American people, all the hockey moms across the nation,” she said in response to a question about the mortgage crisis.
This detailed article includes photographs and three videos from the debate.Yes indeedy, Palin's ready to lead the nation, presiding with empty platitudes... more
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Story Highlights
51 percent say Democratic Sen. Joe Biden wins vice presidential debate
Republican Gov. Sarah Palin exceeds expectations, 84 percent say
Palin beats Biden on likability, 54-36
87 percent say Biden is qualified for job, 42 percent say Palin is
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(CNN) -- A national poll of people who watched the vice presidential debate Thursday night suggests that Democratic Sen. Joe Biden won, but also says Republican Gov. Sarah Palin exceeded expectations.
Poll respondents give Sen. Joe Biden the edge over Gov. Sarah Palin in ability to express views.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. said 51 percent of those polled thought Biden did the best job, while 36 percent thought Palin did the best job.
But respondents said the folksy Palin was more likable, scoring 54 percent to Biden's 36 percent. Seventy percent said Biden was more of a typical politician.
Both candidates exceeded expectations -- 84 percent of the people polled said Palin did a better job than they expected, while 64 percent said Biden also exceeded expectations.
How Palin would perform had been a major issue for the Alaska governor, who had some well-publicized fumbles during interviews with CBS' Katie Couric leading up to the debate.
Respondents thought Biden was better at expressing his views, giving him 52 percent to Palin's 36 percent.
On the question of the candidates' qualifications to assume the presidency, 87 percent of those polled said Biden is qualified and 42 percent said Palin is qualified.
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Consider this:
1. McCain has a significant chance of dying in office.
2. Palin is a global warming denier.
3. If the the next president doesn’t provide very strong climate leadership at home and abroad then we have doomed our children and countless generations after them to ever worsening misery and suffering.
What is the morality of electing a President or Vice President who doesn’t understand the urgent need for very strong domestic action and international leadership to mitigate man-made climate change?
What does McCain’s choice of Palin say about whether he really considers global warming a priority issue, given that he put a global warming denier a heartbeat away from the presidency (see “No climate for old men“)? What does it say about his judgment? At least they found common, albeit Luddite, ground on renewable energy (see “Pork queen Palin is an earmark expert, NOT energy expert” and “The truly clean technologies don’t work”).
Let’s go through the three points:
1. Politico has published the actuarial analysis at “McCain and the politics of mortality“:
According to these statistics, there is a roughly 1 in 3 chance that a 72-year-old man will not reach the age of 80, which is how old McCain would be at the end of a second presidential term. And that doesn’t factor in individual medical history, such as McCain’s battles with potentially lethal skin cancer….
… for a man who has lived 72 years and 67 days (McCain’s age on Election Day this year), there is between a 14.2 and 15.1 percent chance of dying before Inauguration Day 2013
In short, there is a substantial chance that Palin could end up President.
2. Newsmax has Palin’s views on warming:
Q: What is your take on global warming and how is it affecting our country?
A: A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I’m not one though who would attribute it to being man-made.
This makes Palin a typical conservative. A recent poll revealed that only 27% of Republicans believe the earth is warming because of human activity, such as the burning of fossil fuels (see “The deniers are winning, especially with the GOP“). Needless to say, if humans aren’t the cause of global warming, then it’s a random cycle that will eventually reverse itself, so you’d be crazy to mandate sharp reductions in greenhouse gas emissions like McCain (says he) wants.
Despite all the conservative blather about family values, if you are global warming denier, then you simply don’t care about the nation’s or the world’s children.
3. “If there’s no action before 2012, that’s too late. What we do in the next two to three years will determine our future. This is the defining moment,” warned IPCC head Rajendra Pachauri last fall when the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released its major multi-year report synthesizing our understanding of climate science. And remember that Pachauri was handpicked by the Bush administration to replace the “alarmist” Bob Watson. It’s the facts that make scientists alarmists, not their politics.
Only a president who understands that humans are the cause of global warming can provide the aggressive leadership needed to achieve deep greenhouse gas emissions cuts in this country — and convince the rest of the planet, including countries like China, India, and Russia to join us. Only genuine presidential leadership on climate can avert centuries of misery, including many tens of feet of sea level rise, loss of fresh water supplies to a billion people, desertification of one third the planet, and extinction of more than two thirds of all species on land and sea (see “Is 450 ppm politically possible? Part 0: The alternative is humanity’s self-destruction“).Consider this:
1. McCain has a significant chance of dying in office.
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Vice-presidential debates are races for also-rans - the American political equivalent of third and fourth place play-offs in the football World Cup finals.
They normally generate interest levels to match.
But Campaign 2008 has been different all along - and the battle of the bottom of the ticket was different too, in this year of firsts.
Democrat Joe Biden and his Republican counterpart, Sarah Palin, are political polar opposites and they inhabit very different cultural galaxies but they do have one thing in common; they are united by a flair for the kind of political slips that can shape the destiny of campaigns in which hundreds of millions of dollars have been invested.
We don't know the exact figures yet but tens of millions of Americans will have watched the full 90 minutes last night.
And one more statistic we'll never know - how many watched in the hope that Mr Biden would strike a couple of bum notes or that Mrs Palin, who has floundered in recent television appearances, would simply implode and take the whole Republican campaign with her.
Many viewers will have stayed on to the end, watching as you watch high-wire artists performing without a net, with a guilty fascination at the possibility that one might fall. Vice-presidential debates are races for also-rans - the American political equivalent... more
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An Alaska judge refused Thursday to throw out subpoenas for members of Gov. Sarah Palin's administration in the State Legislature's investigation of her firing of her public safety commissioner.
Anchorage Superior Court Judge Peter Michalski rejected a request by Palin's Republican allies to shut down the investigation and ruled that the subpoenas were issued properly by the state Senate Judiciary Committee.
Kevin Clarkson, a lawyer for five GOP lawmakers who filed suit in September, said the date was arbitrarily chosen by the lawmakers overseeing the investigation.
"There's no magic to this October 10 date," Clarkson said. The bipartisan committee that authorized the investigation stated only that it be conducted "in a timely manner," he said.
Peter Maassen, the attorney for the lawmakers leading the inquiry, called the suit "a complete perversion of the process" and said the Legislature had the authority to conduct its investigation.
The former Anchorage prosecutor hired to conduct the investigation, Stephen Branchflower, is slated to complete his report by October 10. In an affidavit filed ahead of Thursday's hearing, he said he has begun to draft his report despite the refusal of several Palin aides and her husband, Todd, to comply with subpoenas issued by the state Senate Judiciary Committee.
Assistant Attorney General Jan Hart DeYoung had asked Michalski to dismiss the subpoenas for top seven members of Palin's administration, arguing that the committee had no authority to issue them.
Palin, now the Republican vice presidential nominee, sacked Public Service Commissioner Walt Monegan in July, citing disagreements over budget issues. But Monegan has said he believes that he was fired because he resisted pressure to fire Palin's ex-brother-in-law, State Trooper Mike Wooten. An Alaska judge refused Thursday to throw out subpoenas for members of Gov. Sarah... more
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Unbelievable. Sarah Palin finished her closing remarks by quoting Ronald Reagan:
It was Ronald Reagan who said that freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. We don’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream; we have to fight for it and protect it, and then hand it to them so that they shall do the same, or we’re going to find ourselves spending our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children about a time in America, back in the day, when men and women were free.
When did he say this? - Read The Rest at the Link...Unbelievable. Sarah Palin finished her closing remarks by quoting Ronald Reagan:
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That will buy quite a few six packs. The Palins own their lakefront house plus two vacation homes - yeah, she's a regular joe.That will buy quite a few six packs. The Palins own their lakefront house plus two... more
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Nothing like second guessing the top of the ticket and thinking she's more popular with voters than he is.Nothing like second guessing the top of the ticket and thinking she's more... more
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Highlights:
Fifty-one percent of debate watchers say Biden did best job, CNN poll says
Eighty-four percent of debate watchers said Palin did better than expected
Biden more likely to bring change, according to 53 percent of debate watchers
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The Alaska State Troopers' union wants the state to investigate Gov. Sarah Palin and her staff to determine if they broke state rules or ethics laws by illegally disclosing the governor's ex-brother-in-law's confidential personnel file.
The Public Safety Employees Association released a copy of a complaint it said it filed with the attorney general's office Wednesday. The PSEA represents Trooper Mike Wooten, a key player in the political drama known as Troopergate that's ensnared the governor in questions of possible ethics violations.
Palin has said Wooten - who was suspended for five days in 2006 for misconduct, including illegally shooting a moose and using a Taser on his stepson in a "training capacity" - is a rogue cop who has made threats against her. Wooten's union, the PSEA, has said Wooten, who is stationed outside of Anchorage, has been unfairly targeted by the governor because he went through a bitter divorce with her sister.
PSEA Executive Director John Cyr said "somebody in the Governor's Office has an unhealthy appetite ... for Trooper Wooten's records."
He said the complaint had been in motion for weeks and was not in response to Palin recently being picked as Republican presidential candidate John McCain's running mate.
The complaint said Palin; Frank Bailey, director of Boards and Commissions; Frank Thompson, division director of the Department of Administration; and Mike Monagle, acting director of the Division of Workers' Compensation in the Department of Labor and Workforce Development, should be investigated for allegedly breaking a state ethics act that provides substantial penalties against those "who unlawfully disclose an employee's personnel records."
"Criminal penalties may also apply," the complaint said.
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"US Republican vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin took her first swipe at her Democratic counterpart Saturday, casting Joe Biden as a Washington insider incapable of change.
"The choice a presidential nominee makes for a running mate says a lot about him," Palin told a flag-waving crowd at an airport hangar in the western state of Colorado.
"Senator Biden can claim many chairmanships across many, many years in Washington and certain many friends in the Washington establishment, but even those admirers would not call him an agent of change."
The Republican ticket, solidified just this past week shortly after standardbearer John McCain chose Palin, the 44-year-old governor of Alaska, to be his running mate, has been trying to poach Democratic White House nominee Barack Obama's mantle of change by promising to reform Washington.""US Republican vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin took her first swipe at her... more
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A seemingly objective Q-and-A about Sarah Palin.
Among the questions: How long has Palin known John McCain? Did she oppose the so-called "Bridge to Nowhere"? What was her position on the surge? Did she really stand up to big oil? Did she fly all the way from Texas to Alaska this April after her water broke? And What's her workout secret?A seemingly objective Q-and-A about Sarah Palin.
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The banners, buttons and signs say McCain-Palin, but the crowds say something else.
"Sa-rah! Pa-lin!" came the chant at a Colorado Springs rally on Saturday moments before Republican nominee John McCain took the stage with Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a woman who was virtually unknown to the nation just a week earlier. The day before, thousands screamed "Sa-rah! Sa-rah! Sa-rah!" at an amphitheater outside Detroit.
"Real change with a real woman," read one sign at a Wisconsin rally. "Hurricane Sarah leaves liberals spinning," cried another.
In the short time since McCain spirited the 44-year-old first-term governor out of Alaska and onto a national stage as his running mate, Palin has become...
Read the rest at Link...
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“Senator McCain’s choice for a running mate is beyond belief. By choosing Sarah Palin, McCain has clearly made a decision to continue the Bush legacy of destructive environmental policies.
“Sarah Palin, whose husband works for BP (formerly British Petroleum), has repeatedly put special interests first when it comes to the environment. In her scant two years as governor, she has lobbied aggressively to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, pushed for more drilling off of Alaska’s coasts, and put special interests above science. Ms. Palin has made it clear through her actions that she is unwilling to do even as much as the Bush administration to address the impacts of global warming. Her most recent effort has been to sue the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove the polar bear from the endangered species list, putting Big Oil before sound science. As unbelievable as this may sound, this actually puts her to the right of the Bush administration.
“This is Senator McCain’s first significant choice in building his executive team and it’s a bad one. It has to raise serious doubts in the minds of voters about John McCain’s commitment to conservation, to addressing the impacts of global warming and to ensuring our country ends its dependency on oil.”
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"On-stage remarks made by leaders at this week's Republican National Convention - aimed at discrediting the resume of Barack Obama - offended a much broader group of people who tend to be very vocal. Namely, community organizers. "It was a put-down," said Jeanetta Williams, president of the NAACP's Salt Lake branch. "Unfortunate," said Tony Yapias, director of Proyecto Latino de Utah. Elitist and out of touch, said Tim Funk, housing project director for the nonprofit Crossroads Urban Center in Salt Lake City ..."
By Cathy McKitrick"On-stage remarks made by leaders at this week's Republican National... more
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Liberals are saying Comrades, er uh I mean fellow Democrats, "Palin has zero experience as a Community Organizer". How could she possibly be ready to be President?
Sarah Palin has NO plagiarism experience as well.
Sarah Palin will NOT appease Iran and Syria, not to mention Ayers, Wright, Farrakhan and The Nation of Islam.
How many articles has she written for Harvard Law Review?
We have not heard her say "um", "uh" or "er" once, so how could she possibly communicate with Obama followers?
Sarah Palin has NEVER even fulfilled any kind of quota.
Our Obama-Messiah has created a whole new class of Americans, 'Bitterclingers' who might see this 'SarahCudda' as relating to them. Quoting our 'Obama' "this is NOT unacceptable".
This woman doesn't represent 'The American Woman', she didn't even allow her young to die in a dirty hospital utility room alone.
Sarah Palin was pictured with a gun and a soldier. Need we say more about her lack of Patriotisim?
Horrors of Horrors her husband is probably a 'vicious' Promise Keeper.
Sarah Palin is a mockery to 'women' everywhere! She's like some sort of different species of human!
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At a time when wasteful spending pervades Washington, D.C., oil and gas prices are too high, reform is desperately needed, Russia is invading a democratic neighbor, partisanship is at an all-time high, and economic growth is anemic, who has the experience to make a real difference? Over the last 16 years, Governor Palin, having lived her life a missiles throw from the Soviet Union and a resurgent autocratic Russia, has managed anywhere from $6 million to $6.6 billion and thousands of employees, lowered taxes, grew the economy, enhanced America’s energy supplies, reformed government, took on her own party, and added 4 children to her family. During that same time, Senator Obama practiced and taught law, voted on legislation, and ran for the presidency. In his time in the Illinois and U.S. Senate, Senator Obama, despite his call for bipartisanship, has not bucked his party on a single major issue. Not one.
There is a reason voters prefer governors in favor of legislators for the presidency. Legislators talk about change. Governors create change.
Another way to state it: Actions speak louder than words.
(This is an excerpt from Matt Mayer's column - he lays it out in the most straightforward way I have seen since the announcement - apples to oranges...)At a time when wasteful spending pervades Washington, D.C., oil and gas prices are too... more
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Unlike Barack Obama's recent Saddleback Church performance, when Sarah Palin's teleprompter stopped working properly, she continued her flawless oratory and delivered the speech of a lifetime!
Yes, she did have notes in front of her - when you've had enough EXPERIENCE, you'd be foolish not to have them!
Unlike Barack Obama's recent Saddleback Church performance, when Sarah... more
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