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By Sherry Pasquarello,WWH/CJE – The VP debate just ended. I love Joe. Yes, he does at times stick his foot in his mouth but he’s bright and he’s experienced and he calls it like he sees it. He answered the questions with facts. Ryan answered with stump speech quotes and fantastical figures.By Sherry Pasquarello,WWH/CJE – The VP debate just ended. I love Joe. Yes, he... more
After three buzz worthy "SNL" skits that at times turned her own words into the punchline, VP hopeful Sarah Palin could appear on the late-night show in the coming weeks to turn the tables and mock her tormentor in a spoof on Fey's American Express commercials, Sun-Times columnist Bill Zwecker is reporting.
This Saturday's show is a rerun, but on Thursday NBC will air the first of its "Weekend Update" specials in prime time. The next original "SNL'' show will be broadcast Oct. 18.After three buzz worthy "SNL" skits that at times turned her own words into... more
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Posted on October 3.2008 by Megan Tady
In this election cycle, the media are part of the story. Whether journalists are lobbing softball questions to the candidates or parroting ridiculous “gotcha” lines, the public increasingly has to scrutinize the media almost as much as our future leaders.
Last night, 2,500 people tuned in to the vice presidential debate with a watchful eye on the moderator, Gwen Ifill of PBS. Free Press launched the “Citizens Media Scorecard” to allow viewers to weigh in on how each moderator handles the debates. The few journalists selected to participate in the debates -- and the media narrative that follows -- play a major role in determining our next president. They must be held accountable.
Did Ifill ask relevant questions? Did she play favorites, as many in the blogosphere feared she would? The results are in:
Overall, her performance was praised. Ifill received higher marks from Obama partisans for conducting an extremely serious and relevant debate (74% vs. 56% for McCain's), for showing no favoritism (94% vs. 52%), and for overall excellence (55% vs. 23%).
But both groups tended to criticize her for being too reticent (70% of Obama voters, 75% of McCain's) in challenging the factual accuracy of the debaters' statements.
Both groups scolded Ifill for skipping the topics of Social Security (84%) and immigration (81%). The major disagreement was on the topic of poverty: Half of the McCain voters in our panel thought its treatment was "just right" (53%); most of the Obama voters called it "not enough" (83%).
About half of Obama's supporters (51%) criticized Ifill for failing to spend more time questioning Palin about her readiness and qualifications to be vice president, whereas many fewer McCain supporters (29%) offered equivalent criticism concerning questions about Biden.
Yet large majorities of both groups of supporters approved of Ifill's choice of questions as giving just the right amount of time to six major issues: nuclear proliferation (76%), global warming (74%), war & peace (73%), the global war on terrorism (73%), tax policy (70%) and energy policy (70%).
Read the rest of the results here.
There are two more debates left, and two more chances to rate them. We can’t simply hope that our journalists deliver the debate performances that will lead to more informed voters. We have to demand it.
The moderators need to know we’re tuning in to the debates to watch them. Sign up to rate the debates today.
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Instant polls taken at the end of the event by television channels suggested that despite Mrs Palin managing a more measured performance than many had anticipated, voters were more impressed with Mr Biden.
A poll by CNN and Opinion Research found 51 per cent thought Mr Biden had performed best, with Mrs Palin taking 36 per cent of respondents.
A survey of uncommitted voters for CBS found the split even more pronounced, with Mr Biden on 46, Mrs Palin on 21 and a relatively high proportion stating that neither had impressed or that they could not decide.
When the uncommitted voters were pressed, 18 per cent said they would vote for Barack Obama and Mr Biden following the debate, with only 10 per cent ready to line up for John McCain and Sarah Palin.
Another instant poll done by Fox News, which did not allow for such fence-sitting, had the divide between the two candidates at 61 per cent for Mr Biden and 39 per cent for Mrs Palin.
However a focus group of independent voters gathered by the pollster Frank Luntz, whose analyses on BBC Newsnight have proved influential in British politics in recent years, called the debate in favour of Mrs Palin.
Among the group, half of whom voted for the Democrat John Kerry in 2004, an overwhelmingly majority raised their hands to signal Mrs Palin had won the debate when asked.
While about a dozen said that Mrs Palin had changed their minds and that they would now support Mr McCain, only one person in the group said he had changed his mind in support of Mr Obama.
Other websites ran less scientific measures of voter reaction. A poll by 3,887 readers of Forbes.com found that 73 per cent believed the debate had been won by Mr Obama, with just 23 per cent plumping for Mrs Palin.
However, a similarly rough survey of almost 300,000 readers of the Drudge Report website made the split 69 per cent to 29 per cent in favour of the Republican candidate.Instant polls taken at the end of the event by television channels suggested that... more
I know some folks out there might have had trouble following the Vice Presidential debate. Particularly, trying to parse meaning from the things that Sarah Palin said. With that in mind, I have compiled a handy resource for your perusal. I hope to update this chart, both graphically and grammatically, when it is no longer ten to five in the morning. For for the mean time. . . enjoy!I know some folks out there might have had trouble following the Vice Presidential... more
The consensus from the debate seems to be that while Sarah Palin exceeded the exceedingly low expectations set for her, Joe Biden won the night. The word comes from former members of the Bush administration and even John McCain's former press secretary.
Torie Clarke, who worked with McCain back in Arizona and with the Bush Administration's Department of Defense, had the following remarks on ABC:
"I'm so surprised at what we are talking about before and after the debate. Before the debate the speculation was all on Sarah Palin, how well can she do, can she answer the tough questions? Nobody was paying attention to Joe Biden. I think Joe Biden had his best night tonight. He came with one mission, and that was to go after John McCain, and he did it, backed up by facts. I think he did a better job tonight of tying McCain to the Bush administration than Obama did last week.
Matthew Dowd, who worked for George Bush's communications team while in the White House, followed Clarke and he too agreed that the Delaware Democrat took the evening.
"I think, you know, I agree with her on this. I think Sarah Palin did reasonably well. The death spiral she has been on for the last week, she survived. She's lived another day. She did well. But I think, when the polls come out in the next two, three days, Joe Biden won this debate."
The consensus from the debate seems to be that while Sarah Palin exceeded the... more
Yes indeedy, Palin's ready to lead the nation, presiding with empty platitudes and cutesy, folksy phrases pouring from her red lips, even when they often had nothing to do with the questions. “Let’s commit ourselves just everyday American people, all the hockey moms across the nation,” she said in response to a question about the mortgage crisis.
This detailed article includes photographs and three videos from the debate.Yes indeedy, Palin's ready to lead the nation, presiding with empty platitudes... more
As a "young voter" it is interesting to see how we are attracting more potential voters of our generation by creating a different approach to listen to the issues. Playing bingo to a debate creates a fun environment rather than just watching. It may draw attention to others, who are not even register to vote, to participate thus sparking an interest in the election and creating more voters. A BINGO game sounds more entertaining to a young adult than simply watching a debate.As a "young voter" it is interesting to see how we are attracting more... more
Yesterday, John McCain responded to right-wing attacks on debate moderator Gwen Ifill (over a book she's writing about politics and race) reasonably, saying he thought the PBS correspondent would be "totally objective." But today on "Fox and Friends" he turned that endorsement into something more like a warning. The Politico reports:
McCain also went further than he had yesterday in responding to a question about Gwen Ifill serving as the moderator of tonight's veep debate, saying he preferred somebody else.
"Frankly, I wish they had picked a moderator that isn't writing a book favorable to Barack Obama," McCain said of Ifill, who is examining the rise of the Illinois Democrat and other post-civil rights Let's face it. But I have to have to have confidence that Gwen Ifill will handle this as the professional journalist that she is."
"Life isn't fair, as I mentioned earlier in the program."
McCain agreed to Ifill as moderator on August 6th, and her book had been public for weeks at the time.
Ifill herself has responded to the controversy:
"Do you think they made the same assumptions about Lou Cannon (who is white) when he wrote his book about Reagan?" said Ifill, who is black. Asked if there were racial motives at play, she said, "I don't know what it is. I find it curious."Yesterday, John McCain responded to right-wing attacks on debate moderator Gwen Ifill... more
"Live From St. Louis, It's Thursday Night!" Sen. Hillary Clinton's former strategist/spokesman Howard Wolfson wonders what it will take for Sarah Palin to get Americans to look past Tina Fey's SNL interpretation of her:
The short answers: Gov. Palin needs to demonstrate a real understanding of complex issues. Simple talking points won't cut it. She needs to make clear she grasps the difficult policy challenges that the next administration will confront. if she doesn't the debate will quickly turn into her own version of Thursday Night Live.
Sen. Biden's burden is the opposite. We all know he understands the issues. Instead he has to connect with Americans, making the case against John McCain without condescending to Gov. Palin and angering female voters. (He will not, for instance, be calling her "Sarah")
Intense Anticipation: The San Francisco Chronicle says tonight's debate is "must-see TV - even if you loathe politics - for its sheer unpredictability." Both candidates "display a marked tendency to set off America's collective gaffe-o-meter," the Hartford Courant writes, producing a "ghoulish fascination -- like waiting for a crash at a NASCAR race -- with tonight's debate." Politico notes that media figures expect it to be a ratings juggernaut, likely overtaking those of the first presidential debate.
Serious Doubts: The AP reported Thursday morning that voters harbor "serious doubts" about Palin's readiness. Fred Thompson defended her on CBS' Early Show:
"People will have a chance to see her from beginning to end without being edited," former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., told CBS' "The Early Show" on Thursday.
"We've all had bad days," Thompson said, "and she's had some bad moments in some of these interviews, just like the rest of us have had."
Palin Gives Debate Preview: Palin came out swinging during an appearance on Sean Hannity's radio show on Wednesday:
She gave a preview of how her preparations for Thursday's debate in St. Louis are going and said she has been researching Barack Obama and Joe Biden's voting records, "Everything is going well and I'm out here in Arizona getting some fresh air even as we are studying up and reading a lot of voting records and realizing how extremely liberal the other ticket is so this is a good time to be here and I so look forward to tomorrow night getting to speak to Americans about the very, very clear choice they are going to have on November 4th."
Palin also claimed she was eager for the debate since the media had been 'censoring' her: "Getting to speak directly to Americans without that filter of mainstream media trying to I think maybe censor some of my comments as we lay out those contrasts between these two different tickets."
The Format: Details on the debate mechanics:
-- Each candidate will stand behind a lecturn, making them more likely to fire zingers at each other. Dick Cheney and John Edwards were seated during their mostly sleepy 2004 VP debate. "Live From St. Louis, It's Thursday Night!" Sen. Hillary Clinton's... more
NEW YORK (AP) -- Sarah Palin is heading into her debate with Joe Biden, easily the most-anticipated vice presidential faceoff ever, weighed down by fresh evidence that voters are developing serious doubts about her readiness for the job.
A new AP-Gfk poll released Wednesday found that just 25 percent of likely voters believe Palin has the right experience to be president. That's down from 41 percent just after the GOP convention, when the Alaska governor made her well-received debut on the national stage.
There's a potential bright side: Thursday night's debate in St. Louis gives her a chance to overcome the doubts in a 90-minute showcase, the first time most Americans outside Alaska will see her in a lengthy give-and-take session.
The downside: A poor performance debating Biden, the Delaware senator, former presidential candidate and longtime foreign policy expert, could cement a negative image for the rest of the campaign.
Palin has been preparing at Republican presidential candidate John McCain's retreat in Sedona, Ariz.
Biden was doing his own intensive preparation near his home in Wilmington, Del., though he was going to Washington for Wednesday night's vote on the economic rescue package.
As for Palin's prospects, "the expectations are set so low for her, she could fake everyone out," said Scott Reed, who managed the presidential campaign of Republican Bob Dole in 1996.
"Palin needs to clear the bar and reframe the debate around Barack Obama and his tax and spend record," he said. "She's got to show a grasp on the issues and she's got to talk about Obama. Most importantly, she's a reformer. She's got to get back to that."
Democrats, meanwhile, were doing what they could to dispel the notion that Palin is a sub-par debater. The Democratic National Committee e-mailed news stories to reporters describing her able performances in debates in 2006 when she was running for Alaska governor.
And Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, one of Obama's most prominent surrogates, tried to lower expectations for Biden on a conference call with reporters.
"My friend Joe Biden has a tendency to talk forever and sometimes say stuff that's kind of stupid," McCaskill said.NEW YORK (AP) -- Sarah Palin is heading into her debate with Joe Biden, easily the... more
The military industrial complex bottom feeders are trying to recruit frat boys to make it look like they have a lot of supporters. What a joke.
DESPERATE! The military industrial complex bottom feeders are trying to recruit... more