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In a long interview in Rolling Stone recently, Omar Bin Laden spoke about his life now, his beliefs, his childhood, the time he spent in Afghanistan with his father before 9/11 and his eventual decision not to become, as he says his father had hoped, the leader of Al Queda. Bored as a teenager and cut off from the world at Tora Bora, after studying to become a warrior, he decided to leave and said goodbye to his father for the last time:
Osama's Prodigal Son
My father is a wealthy man," Omar recalls. "He gave me $10,000 in cash. He told me to get a car and go." Omar's eyes well with tears. "If he wanted to keep me, he had to follow my way. If I wanted to keep him, I have to follow his way. I had a broken heart as I drove away. We don't show our feelings. I kissed his hand and said goodbye. This is the last time I saw him."
He remembers his last glimpse of his father: As Osama bin Laden walked away, he wore the same small, mysterious smile he had when he suggested his sons become suicide bombers.
Alone for the first time in his life, Omar took a car to the Pakistan border. A few months later, his father destroyed the World Trade Center, killing thousands. "I never thought the attack would be civilian buildings," Omar says. "I thought it would be a ship, like the USS Cole. My father's dream was to bring the Americans to Afghanistan. He would do the same thing he did to the Russians. I was surprised the Americans took the bait. I so much respected the mentality of President Clinton. He was the one who was smart. When my father attacked his places, he sent a few cruise missiles to my father's training camp. He didn't get my father, but after all the war in Afghanistan, they still don't have my father. They have spent hundreds of billions. Better for America to keep the money for its economy. In Clinton's time, America was very, very smart. Not like a bull that runs after the red scarf.
Then he explains why his father was happy when Bush was elected. Bush unlike Clinton who was smarter, not allowing himself to be pushed into war. The Neocons were pressuring Clinton also. So Bush's election made it a certainty that all these forces would come together to get these wars started, and to plunge the U.S. into debt to keep them going.
I was still in Afghanistan when Bush was elected," he continues. "My father was so happy. This is the kind of president he needs — one who will attack and spend money and break the country. Even Bush's own mother says he is the biggest idiot boy of his family. I am sure my father wanted McCain more than Obama. McCain has the same mentality as Bush. My father would be disappointed because Obama get the position."
"Do you think Obama can win in Afghanistan?"
"Out of what you see," Omar asks, "what do you think?"
According to Omar, Americans are actually lucky that his father has not been captured or killed. "It is going to be worse when my father dies," he says. "The world is going to be very, very nasty then. It will be a disaster."
"Omar always says that without the head, the arms and legs will run wherever," Zaina says.
"I know this for a fact," Omar says. "People were always asking my father to attack more. They would say, 'Sheik, we must do more.' Crazy fucking things. My father has a religious goal. He is controlled by the rules of jihad. He only kills if he thinks there is a need."
"Will there be more attacks?" I ask.
"I don't think so," Omar says. "He doesn't need to. As soon as America went to Afghanistan, his plan worked. He has already won."
Emphasis mine. Edited to include that highlighted paragraph.
He also speaks about the U.S. helping to create Al Queda in the eighties and how his father was then an ally of the U.S.
It's interesting that he has not been arrested as so many others have for simply knowing Bin Laden. He seems to be free to go wherever he wants to.
He appears to be attracted to Western life's pleasures despite his background. He spent time with the reporter frequenting bars and strip clubs in Beirut, saying with a smile 'I'm glad my father doesn't run the world'.
It is after midnight when Osama bin Laden's fourth-born son, Omar, leads me into a nightclub called Les Caves de Boys in the center of Damascus. Marked only by a small neon sign on a side street in an upscale quarter of the city, the basement bar is dark and secluded, enveloped by an air of exclusivity. Omar brushes past the two heavyset Syrian thugs at the door and picks a booth in the back. A dozen or so wealthy Arab men are drinking whiskey and watching Russian strippers put on a show.
He is married to a British woman, a grandmother nearly twice his age. The author believes he is authentic in his rejection of his father's world:
Now 28, Omar is one of 11 sons of Osama bin Laden. But from an early age, Omar stood out from his brothers for his independence. Though Omar does not believe that any of his siblings are still by his father's side, he is the only bin Laden son to publicly disavow his father's violence. In Growing Up bin Laden, co-authored last year with his mother and an American writer named Jean Sasson, Omar not only captures the insanity and cruelty inside his father's world, but also provides an intimate portrait of what it is like to be the son of a sociopath. "In many ways, Omar's story represents how the modern Arab world is thinking through its views of the West," observes Steve Coll, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The Bin Ladens and president of the New America Foundation. "They accept the critique provided by Al Qaeda but not its idea of never-ending war. Like Omar, they won't follow Osama onto the battlefield."
I'm surprised there isn't a Fatwa out on him. Or that the CIA never wanted to talk to him. Not really sure what to think, but the Bin Ladens seem to have immunity as far as the U.S. is concerned, compared to other Muslims who had far less knowledge of our supposed #1 enemy in the whole world, yet ended up in Guantanamo, 12 year old kids and elderly shepherds eg, for years.
However, I hope the Rightwingers who thought Bush was so tough and scary to Al Queda finally realize what many more practical people realized a long time ago, that nothing played more into the hands of extremists, than Bush's invasion of a ME country and of Afghanistan.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/sabrina%201/117In a long interview in Rolling Stone recently, Omar Bin Laden spoke about his life... more
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As discussion over Iran's nuclear program takes the floor at a UN meeting in New York, a media blitz against it has been launched in Manhattan. The main target of the costly ad campaign is President Ahmadinejad himself.
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"some segments orchestrated the attack to reverse the declining American economy and its grips on the Middle East in order to save the Zionist regime," said President Ahmadinejad. "The majority of the American people as well as most nations and politicians around the world agree with this view. Third: it was carried out by a terrorist group but that the American government supported and took advantage of the situation."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgQzGYrjA1w&feature=player_embeddedAs discussion over Iran's nuclear program takes the floor at a UN meeting in New... more
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I Pray that this is All wrong!!
If you Haven't see this yet .. This Movie will make you think.
Blessings to all those who lost on this day to remember..
"Zeitgeist - The Movie" is a three part film. The film, unedited, is two hours long. The video you are currently watching is part two of three of the film; "The World Trade Center". If you'd like, you can view parts one (Religion) and three (The Federal Reserve) in the profile.
You can view the entire Movie at this link.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com
9/12/2009
In response to many who may think this is all true I offer this site as well.
The idea is to THINK about things and not just blindly accept the status quo.
This is another view .. right or wrong..
Popular Mechanics Investigates
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
Thank you to all that responded and or watched ... It showed me some do remember the loss of 9.11.01I Pray that this is All wrong!!
If you Haven't see this yet .. This Movie will... more
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you know what really gets to me? When I hear, "I don't want to get involved"you know what really gets to me? When I hear, "I don't want to get... more
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finally someone who can't be ignored states the obvious
if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....it must be a duckfinally someone who can't be ignored states the obvious
if it walks like a duck... more
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Seven years after 9/11, the supposed mastermind behind the attacks is still at large, and the nation is entrenched in multiple wars in the Middle East. Is Bin Laden the evil behind the attack or a mere front man in a larger picture, a Bogeyman? Fabled Enemies is unlike any 9/11documentary ever put together. Rather than focusing on the physical anomalies at the World Trade Center and Pentagon, this film follows the intelligence ties of Osama Bin Laden, the alleged hijackers, and those who were actually detained on 9/11. The movie delves deeply into the roles of seperate Nations that were involved in supporting the 9/11 attacks. From Israel to Saudi Arabia to Pakistan, and even the United States itself, no one is spared in this scathing expose that pulls no punches. Sit back and get ready to learn how members of the FBI had their investigations into Bin Laden obstructed and shut down, how the hijackers were trained at US bases, that military drills crippled our defense and facilitated the attacks, how the Shadow Government was actually activated that day, and much much more.Seven years after 9/11, the supposed mastermind behind the attacks is still at large,... more
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So, a few weeks ago I went up to New Jersey to hang out with the man who was almost the head of Homeland Security, Bernard Kerik. He dissed Obama, sicked his dogs on me, and told me what it's like to be under federal indictment. Good times!So, a few weeks ago I went up to New Jersey to hang out with the man who was almost... more
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On 9/11 prior knowledge, and perhaps a clue towards the put options on the day of 9/11: “I know the guy that went into his broker in San Diego and said ‘cash me out, it’s going down tomorrow.’”
He then went on to say that this man’s “brother worked in the White House.”
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On October 16, 2008, Robert Baer, who was a CIA Case Officer in the Middle East over the course of almost two decades, participated in a discussion at the Hammer Museum entitled “A Third War: The Threat of War with Iran.” Dr. Trita Parsi was part of the discussion which was moderated by Ian Masters.
Baer was briefly interrupted during the discussion by Jeremy Rothe-Kushel for clarity’s sake, after he brought up 9/11 and reaffirmed his recently aired belief that Osama bin Laden is likely dead. That part went something like this-
Bob: The chances of Bin Laden being dead are very high. The question is are they going to drag him out in the next two weeks. Is he going to [laughter] out of cold storage and say “we finally got him.” I don’t know that he’s dead, but he probably is.
Jeremy: But he didn’t do 9/11 though.
Bob: Well, let’s put it this way, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind…
Jeremy: No.
Bob: …said he wasn’t working for Bin Laden, so…
Jeremy: Did Khalid Sheikh Mohammed put the Mossad assets in New Jersey to film?
Bob: …No he’s talking about the famous white van. It’s an intriguing story. It deserves a book…
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After the event, Baer graciously granted WeAreChangeLA members Stewart Howe and Jeremy Rothe-Kushel an interview in front of the Hammer Museum on Wilshire Boulevard. Although he avoided dealing with the operational aspects of the 9/11 attacks, Mr. Baer appeared to affirm or suggest Israeli Mossad and White House foreknowledge of the attacks. Baer laid out his take on a benign scenario for the “famous white van” associated with Mossad agents detained on 9/11 after being seen filming and celebrating the attacks. Baer also said that it could mean something “worse.”
At the end of the interview Baer makes a very provocative statement:
“I know the guy that went into his broker in San Diego and said ‘cash me out, it’s going down tomorrow.’”
He then went on to say that this man’s “brother worked in the White House.”
He finally appears to confirm CIA involvement in the Iranian Revolution.
Here’s some interesting info related to Baer and this subject from the great resource http://www.historycommons.org/ —-
“Before Mid-January 2002: Top CIA Official Reportedly Describes 9/11 as Triumph”
According to former CIA officer Robert Baer, a high-ranking CIA official tells a reporter off-the-record that, “when the dust finally clears, Americans will see that September 11 was a triumph for the intelligence community, not a failure.” It is unclear why the CIA officer thinks this and the reporter who tells Baer this story is not named. However, Baer comments that if that is what the CIA thinks, “Im scared to death of what lies ahead.” [BAER, 2002, PP. XXIII]
**********What should we believe?................................On 9/11 prior knowledge, and perhaps a clue towards the put options on the day of... more
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