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On MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” this morning, host Joe Scarborough delivered a scathing rant against Glenn Beck. According to Scarborough, Glenn is “losing it before our eyes” and is “bad for the conservative movement.”
“He’s bad for the Republican party. He’s bad for Fox News. It’s that simple,” Scarborough said, referring specifically to Glenn’s recent work to uncover the socialists, progressives, and unions behind the unrest in Egypt and Wisconsin.
Guest commentator Pat Buchanan added that Republicans have a “responsibility and a duty” to make sure Beck isn’t speaking for conservatives.
Scarborough refers to a recent blog post by conservative writer Peter Wehner calling Glenn, “The most disturbing personality on cable television.” I talk to Pete from time to time and have a good deal of respect for his analysis most of the time. I found his most recent posts on Glenn, however, to be pretty shallow. It’s a popular sport to make dramatic denunciations of Beck themes without really engaging in a discussion of the arguments.
I’ve been involved in mainstream conservative thought and politics for 25 years and I can assure you that Wehner and Scarborough are mounting a very weak case. I’ve worked with many top conservative leaders and politicians. Glenn is about as thoughtful and sincere in his approach to political argument as anyone I’ve met. The depth and range of discussion around the Mercury and Blaze offices is the most interesting and electrifying of any place I’ve worked.
This weekend I’ll be posting a more thorough response to the Wehner/Scarborough arguments. For now, watch the clip and help kick start my weekend response in the comments!
On MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” this morning, host Joe Scarborough delivered a scathing rant against Glenn Beck. According to Scarborough, Glenn is “losing it before our eyes” and is “bad for the conservative movement.”
“He’s bad for the Republican party. He’s bad for Fox News. It’s that simple,” Scarborough said, referring specifically to Glenn’s recent work to uncover the socialists, progressives, and unions behind the unrest in Egypt and Wisconsin.
Guest commentator Pat Buchanan added that Republicans have a “responsibility and a duty” to make sure Beck isn’t speaking for conservatives.
Scarborough refers to a recent blog post by conservative writer Peter Wehner calling Glenn, “The most disturbing personality on cable television.” I talk to Pete from time to time and have a good deal of respect for his analysis most of the time. I found his most recent posts on Glenn, however, to be pretty shallow. It’s a popular sport to make dramatic denunciations of Beck themes without really engaging in a discussion of the arguments.
I’ve been involved in mainstream conservative thought and politics for 25 years and I can assure you that Wehner and Scarborough are mounting a very weak case. I’ve worked with many top conservative leaders and politicians. Glenn is about as thoughtful and sincere in his approach to political argument as anyone I’ve met. The depth and range of discussion around the Mercury and Blaze offices is the most interesting and electrifying of any place I’ve worked.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnbc-host-scarborough-unleashes-on-beck-losing-it-before-our-eyes/On MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” this morning, host Joe Scarborough... more
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On today's edition of his Fox News show, Glenn Beck tied Islam to the Antichrist described in the New Testament. He even had a side-by-side comparison of the Antichrist and the "12th Imam" or "Mahdi" (terms Beck uses interchangeably to describe the figure many Muslims believe will guide believers in the end times) on his chalkboard.
And to help Beck discuss this connection, Beck hosted Joel Richardson, an anti-Muslim activist who says that Satan will use Islam "to fulfill the prophesies of the Bible" and has written a column headlined "What Obama and the Antichrist have in common."
Here's Beck's chalkboard:
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Although Beck says during the show that only a minority of Muslims have beliefs that should scare you, Richardson makes no such disclaimer. Rather, Richardson suggests that all Muslims (or at least all orthodox Muslims) desire the return of the Antichrist. Here are a couple of things he said:
•"You have the bad guy of the Bible. He primarily persecutes God's people, the Jews and the Christians. ... [The imam] likewise causes Jews and Christians either to submit to Islam or be killed. ... It's abundantly found throughout the Islamic sacred traditions known as the Hadith."
•"According to the Bible, the mark of the beast is a mark that is put on the foreheads that essentially condemns someone to hell. On the Islamic side, the Muslims have picked up on this tradition, except in Islamic tradition, the beast is a good guy, and he marks the foreheads of all true Muslims, and so, in essence, Muslims are desiring that they would receive the mark of the beast."
•"On the biblical side, Jesus returns to deliver his people from having been defeated and crushed, persecuted. On the Islamic side, the Muslim Jesus returns and tells the Christians of the world, you've had it wrong all along. Your Bible is corrupt. I never claimed to be the son of God. I never died on the cross. Islam is the true religion. Follow the Mahdi or die."
•"Most orthodox Muslims would say that this is sacred scripture that you cannot discard."
One more point: During the segment Beck also hosted Zuhdi Jasser, a Muslim. Jasser said that "The Quran talks about a few signs of the end of times, but most of the details you gave are from the Hadith," the oral sayings and deeds of Muhammad that are treated as holy by Muslims. Jasser continued: "Reform is I think going to happen in Islam when we start to discard parts of the Hadith that are not legitimate, that have been fabricated. And this is where there is some disagreement. So some of these stories come out of, I think, illegitimate Hadith, but others may be legitimate."
This is where Richardson states: "Most orthodox Muslims would say that this is sacred scripture that you cannot discard. He's essentially saying that it's discardible." So, Richardson is basically telling Jasser (a Muslim) that the more peaceful view of Islam is un-orthodox and that traditional Muslims hope to be united under the rule of the Antichrist who will kill Jews, Christians and nonbelievers. And Beck has given him a platform on national television.On today's edition of his Fox News show, Glenn Beck tied Islam to the Antichrist... more
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Funny cartoon... might be true though.
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Glenn Beck expanded on his theory about Egypt by leveling a series of wild smears at labor unions, alleging that they are "led by communists" and that they are working to "help stomp out the free market and capitalism," which is "why they're rushing in to support the democratic revolution in Egypt." Beck supported this theory with false claims about unions.
Much more at link...Glenn Beck expanded on his theory about Egypt by leveling a series of wild smears at... more
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Everyime I hear a creationist claim that evolution is a myth, I shake my head and smile. And that’s because I know only too well that the individual has not taken the time to do their due diligence and actually investigate what it is that evolution is. And how would I know this? Well because they spout off the same nonsense that came out of Glenn Beck’s mouth yesterday when he said he believes that it is “ridiculous” to believe that “we came from monkeys.”
“I haven’t seen a half-monkey, half-person yet.”
Not content with coming off as a moron with that last line, Beck goes on to say:
They have to force it down your throat. When anyone has to force it, it’s a problem. You didn’t have to force that the world was round. You didn’t have to.
Truth is truth. You don’t have to force the truth. You just keep adding evidence and evidence and evidence and evidence until it becomes self-evident.
Wow. It’s hard to imagine that anyone could pack so much crap into a couple of sentences. But then again, we’re talking Beck here, the ultimate bullshit/idiot-meister. I’m not going to bother trying to refute nonsense of this sort. I’ve wasted too many hours of my life debating people like Beck – simpletons who would rather hang on to childish fairy tales then actually do the study necessary to allow for intelligent debate. But if you do care, MediaMatters puts in the attempt here.
I’ll just say for the hundredth time that evolution does not speak of the existence of god or gods or for that matter, the beginnings of life. It says only that the diversity of life we see around us has come about in the most beautiful and elegant of ways – evolution. It is the individual’s choice to study and know or remain clouded in ignorance. What is not an option though, is forcing their self-imposed ignorance down the throat of schoolchildren.Everyime I hear a creationist claim that evolution is a myth, I shake my head and... more
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http://current.com/account/editExternalAccounts.htm Glenn Beck is the ultimate deceiver
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Fox News personality Glenn Beck believes the Jews murdered the biblical messiah Jesus Christ, and Gosh Darn It, if the Christian savior had been more like Barack Obama he'd have "come back and made the Jews pay for what they did."
That's just the tip of a bizarre rant recently aired by News Corporation, which featured the chalkboard-handy host once again assailing Christian social justice efforts, which many faithful see as core to their sacrament. In the process, however, Beck revealed what one prominent reverend called a fundamental "misunderstanding" of scripture, as well as an apparent detachment from the English language when it comes to the word "victim."
First of all, as the story goes, Jews did not kill Jesus. The Roman empire had him executed after Jewish religious leaders became worked into a frenzy over his ideas - or so the New Testament claims. Armed Roman guards allegedly beat and lashed him, then hung him on a cross until death.
Indeed, claiming as fact that Jews killed Jesus would seem to indicate that Beck has adopted a meme otherwise endemic to antisemitic thought and literature. The implication that Romans were stalwarts of law and reason who merely appeased the bloodthirsty Jewish mob was a vital component of Nazi propaganda.
Beck also suggests that calling Jesus the "victim" of a violent and oppressive system is "an abomination." Jesus, he insists, was really a "conqueror" who chose death at the hands of his own people in order to overcome the wages of sin for all humanity.
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While an advanced theological argument could potentially be rendered to support this statement, all traces of logic seem missing. By its principle definition, what Beck is describing is victimhood. The word "victim" literally means a living being that is scarified to a deity.
A nearly universal cornerstone of Christian theology holds that Christ's death washed away man's sin in God's eyes, therefore his sacrifice is a key moment in their religious rite. Logically, it would follow that without the fundamental construction of the Christian God, who measures ill-deeds against humanity and threatens impure souls with eternal punishment, there would be no such thing as "sin" -- meaning the sacrifice chosen by Christ was to satisfy a deity. Such is the first definition of the word "victim," according to Merriam-Webster's dictionary.
The alternate definition of "victim" also contradicts Beck's application of the word. Webster further defines "victim" as "one that is acted on and usually adversely affected by a force or agent". In this understanding of the word, the conservative opinion host would seem to be suggesting that being beaten and murdered by armed thugs is not a force or agent acting on an individual in an adverse manner.
Instead, the juxtaposition of victim and conqueror is convenient for Beck in that he's trying to refute the intrinsic nature of many Christians' beliefs that the poor and needy should be comforted. Instead, the television talker opines that "redistribution of wealth" is nowhere to be found in the religious tome.
But even this rings hollow. The first generation of Christians, spoken of in the book of Acts, took it upon themselves to sell all their possessions and bring the proceeds to Christ's apostles so they might redistribute the wealth to all believers.
Acts 2:44-45 says, "All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need."
The notion is multiplied by Acts 4:34-37, which adds: "There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. There was a Levite, a native of Cyprus, Joseph, to whom the apostles gave the name Barnabas (which means 'son of encouragement'). He sold a field that belonged to him, then brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet."
In the spirit of the one they called a messiah, the first Christian church willingly shared their wealth with fellow believers. In this same vein, legendary author Kurt Vonnegut once opined, "'Socialism' is no more an evil word than 'Christianity.' Socialism no more prescribed Joseph Stalin and his secret police and shuttered churches than Christianity prescribed the Spanish Inquisition. Christianity and socialism alike, in fact, prescribe a society dedicated to the proposition that all men, women and children are created equal, and shalt not starve."
Facts of language and scripture considered, Beck's unusual claims about Christian theology seem to be, at best, misplaced.
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0715/beck-rant-reveals-misunderstanding-jesus-story-definition-word-victim/Fox News personality Glenn Beck believes the Jews murdered the biblical messiah Jesus... more
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At first blush, you might not think Glenn Beck is much like Martin Luther King Jr, but if you look a little closer there are some startling similarities. For example, I heard King had a secretary named Beck and Beck had a secretary named King. Even more uncanny, MLK was born in Atlanta, Georgia and Glenn Beck hates 9/11 families and Katrina victims.
Here's what Stephen Colbert had to say about the topic last night:
click here for vid:
http://www.indecisionforever.com/2010/05/14/colbert-glenn-beck-thinks-hes-martin-luther-king/At first blush, you might not think Glenn Beck is much like Martin Luther King Jr, but... more
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http://www.sloshspot.com/blog/12-07-2009/Why-Theyre-Famous-Glenn-Beck-252
We call these people 'special'. This right-wing weirdo, says some of the most unthinkable shit, cries like a six year old that has had his candy bar stolen, and makes all Americans look generally more ignorant - all under the guise of 'caring about this country.' The following are some of the best quotable gems from this fringe pundit's unending verbal diarrhea.http://www.sloshspot.com/blog/12-07-2009/Why-Theyre-Famous-Glenn-Beck-252
We call... more
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Glenda Beckwith is the Bizarro Glenn Beck. LIke Bizarro Superman, she comes from the Bizarro Universe and is the opposite yet equally crazy Glenn Beck counterpart. So she is a liberal, girl, who has a web show...but just as crazypants.
She talks Sarah Palin in her first epi.Glenda Beckwith is the Bizarro Glenn Beck. LIke Bizarro Superman, she comes from the... more
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Does anything else have to be said about this fraud ? This is actual footage of Glen Beck putting Vicks vapor rub under his eyes to create tears for the camera. So now we know that Fox News is pretty much a staged event.Does anything else have to be said about this fraud ? This is actual footage of Glen... more
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FINALLY! a Republican leader denounces Glenn Beck. For that, I applaud you Senator Graham. Thank you for FINALLY offering a voice of reason from your party.
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Sen. Lindsey Graham, (R-S.C.) offered unusually blunt assessments of the fringe elements of his party and conservative media on Thursday, calling the popular and bombastic Fox News host Glenn Beck a "cynic" whose show was antithetical to American values.
"Only in America can you make that much money crying," Graham said of Beck. "Glenn Beck is not aligned with any party. He is aligned with cynicism and there has always been a market for cynics. But we became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers."
Appearing before a crowd of Washington's elite power players and opinion-makers, Graham spoke largely without filter, offering acidic takes on subject well beyond Beck. The Senator called the birther community that questions the president's U.S. citizenship "crazy" and implored them to "knock this crap off" so the country could get on to more important matters.
"I'm here to tell you that those who think the president was not born in Hawaii are crazy," said Graham, who went on to dispel another myth: that Obama is a closet Muslim.FINALLY! a Republican leader denounces Glenn Beck. For that, I applaud you Senator... more
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SCARBOROUGH: You cannot say that the president of the United States, Mike Barnicle, hates all white people. You cannot call the president of the United States a racist. You cannot wallow in conspiracy theories as he did for about a month, suggesting that FEMA might be setting up concentration camps and going on Fox & Friends and saying, "I can't disprove it," and then wait a month. You can't stir up that type of hatred -- calling the president a racist.
BARNICLE: Yeah.
SCARBOROUGH: And then say, "I'm just a rodeo clown." Can I -- can I -- I've got an honor roll. We're gonna have a conservatives honor roll on this show.
BARNICLE: All right.
SCARBOROUGH: And trust me, you want to be on this honor roll. I know how these stories end. I always know how they end -- and I'm talking to you Mitt Romney, and I'm talking to anybody who wants to be president in 2012. You need to call out this type of hatred, because it always blows up in your face.
But yesterday, Pete Wehner, Karl Rove's political guy inside the White House -- brilliant guy, writes for Commentary. And we disagree on a lot, Pete and I do, but Pete came out yesterday and said Glenn Beck is bad for the conservative movement. We need more people doing that. You cannot preach hatred. You cannot say the president's a racist. You cannot stir up things that could have very deadly consequences. I was in Congress in 1995. I know where this can end. You can't do it, and then say, "I'm a rodeo clown."
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Former Bush speechwriter Peter Wehner: "[T]he role Glenn Beck is playing is harmful in its totality."
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Mark Levin: Beck "mindless," "incoherent," "pandering," and "pathetic."
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David Frum: "GOP Surrenders to Beck's Mob Rule."
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Parker: Beck and Rush Limbaugh are "empower[ing] racists."
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Brooks: Beck and Limbaugh are "race-baiting."
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Hasselbeck slams Beck: "[D]anger in what he said," and he is not "able to back it up."
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Little Green Footballs' Johnson: "Wehner agrees with me: Glenn Beck: Harmful to the Conservative Movement."
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In addition to media conservatives, GOP Rep. Inglis told town hall attendees to turn off Beck's show. At an August town hall event, Republican Rep. Bob Inglis (SC) said to attendees who watch Glenn Beck: "Turn that television off."SCARBOROUGH: You cannot say that the president of the United States, Mike Barnicle,... more
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to the people who went to the 9/12 march or sympatized for it i hope this message gets to youto the people who went to the 9/12 march or sympatized for it i hope this message gets... more
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heres Glenn Beck beck being a nutcase again.
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Will Fox News personality Glenn Beck offer an apology to President Barack Obama? Beck, back from what is rumored to be a forced vacation, needs to offer Obama an apology. By claiming that Obama is a racist with "a deep-seated hatred for white people", Beck crossed a line. Beck needs to retract his remarks and offer an apology if he is to regain any sort of respectability.Will Fox News personality Glenn Beck offer an apology to President Barack Obama? Beck,... more
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Glenn Beck speaks his arse.
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Relevance in clip starts at 2:56.
It seems like a non-issue, Glenn Beck says insanely stupid things like this all the time. But this blatant act of race-baiting reaches back to racial backlash tensions not seen since the 1960's and the Watts riot.
Is Glenn Beck trying to incite racial violence? Along with the speech posted the other day here on current ( http://current.com/items/90599545_tipping-point-glenn-beck-fan-arrested-with-guns-and-ammo-online-mediaite.htm ) which beckoned to a sort of Nixonian populism by exploiting the fracture this nation underwent in that era, it seems pretty clear to me.
What do you guys think?Relevance in clip starts at 2:56.
It seems like a non-issue, Glenn Beck says... more
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