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On 3 November 2010, I appeared on “Ghosts of the Republic” to discuss “The Columbine Cause.” The program went well, especially for having three co-hosts, and would be a decent starting place for someone trying to get a handle on the Columbine shooting. 60 minutes.EvanLong.net - EvanLong.tk - TheColumbineCause.tk
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Interviews with witnesses who reported other gunmen at the Columbine shooting.
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As you can see in this media interview from 20 April 1999 with Columbine High School sophomore Chris Wisher, some witnesses to the Columbine shootings reported gunmen other than seniors Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold as having been involved as active participants in the now-famous massacre we all know as "Columbine."
I've documented some of the many, and by many, I mean, in some cases, dozens of witnesses who independently corroborated specific witness reports of other gunmen at Columbine, many of whom named the non-Harris/non-Klebold suspects by name, in a 2007 video called "The Columbine Cause" and subsequent pieces. These other suspects included current and former CHS students Chris Morris, Robert Perry and Brian Sargent, as well as at least one unidentified adult who was reportedly witnessed prowling the science areas with a sawed-off shotgun.
I recently managed to get in touch of with some of the witnesses who had reported some of this information to ask them what they had to say about the way that the "investigation" ultimately turned out and how they felt about the overall state of the history of Columbine, since, in their police interviews, it seemed that many of them had indicated that they were very sure based on their own observations that others had been involved, others who, in some cases, were known to the witnesses on a personal basis. Six of the witnesses responded to my inquiry and none of them gave me permission to identify them so I will not disclose any personal information about them. You can find my full report on what they told me at http://www.EvanLong.net, and I will give a brief summary with some additional information here.
Two of witnesses did not answer any questions. One turned silent immediately after I explained what my interest was and the other told me that he would only comment for money. I didn't take him up on this offer because I did not believe that I would necessarily be getting accurate information.
The next two witnesses were more open but explained that the shooting had really bothered them and that it had taken a long time for them to feel at all normal again even years after the fact. One said he would watch "The Columbine Cause," think about my questions and then reply. He didn't reply, and follow-up questions went unanswered. The fourth witness told me that he had blocked out a lot of memories, was still shaky when recalling the shooting and probably wouldn't be able to answer any questions, even though he had no ideological opposition to doing so. I thanked him and suggested that if he ever did feel like talking about it, there are people who are interested in listening.
The fifth witness agreed to speak with me on the phone, telling me that he was, quote, "willing to talk." Once on the phone, the witness turned combative and heavily critical almost immediately, but continued to talk for about fifteen minutes. our conversation is too long to share in this video, but you can read the full transcript at http://www.EvanLong.net.
The sixth and last witness was, by far, the most forthcoming. He, too, had suffered emotional trauma but this did not hinder from from making a statement. He told me that he had definitely seen at least one non-Harris/non-Klebold gunman and had been put under a lot of pressure to change his story and back the official version of events which held that a pair of "lone nuts" perpetrated the shooting on their own, completely unaided in any way and without the foreknowledge of anyone else at all. The witness told me, quote:
"I have a hard time watching your entire video. I watched 5 min. I saw too much that day, plain and simple. I have been told I could and would easily disappear if I tried to expose what happened that day. I was locked inside that building [for hours] with the teacher [Dave Sanders] that died, risked my life to save him and he still died. I lost [...] friends [...] and had many friends seriously injured. [...] I was O. C. D. trying to save myself from death at [such a young age]. I was also told by the police and investigators that I [...] was the most credible witness that day: However, I did not see [...] this and [...] that! [...] Everything I said happened in those 4 hours, the police have evidence of happening within 2 minutes of when I say it happened. They only denied my credibility after celebrating my accounts as true and belittling me and my mother to our faces! My mom taught me to “Pay attention to time, location, and description.” She taught me that it pays to pay attention. This time it didn’t pay it cost me. I am a potential threat to those guilty and still living. They cannot make up their minds of what is right and wrong, they’ve been sucked into to the evil [...]. I want to write a book, and have since it happened, but know too many reasons not to [publish it], like my family saying it risks my life. It still plagues me that my friends were forced to leave me while those sickened minds who killed them still walk [among] us. I want peace without being a martyr! I love and so I am lovable! What makes that so hard?!!! My protectors betrayed me, deeply. Would die for the truth, but want to live for the beauty of my lost friends memory and most important power of LOVE!”"
Returning to Chris Wisher with whom this video opened, this last witness' statement to me echoes almost exactly the sentiments that independent reporter John Quinn conveyed in a series of articles from 1999 in which he interviewed Wisher and Wisher's parents over the telephone in the weeks following the shooting. Quinn wrote that Mrs. Wisher, quote,
"told me that so many Columbine students know of other assailants being involved that she sees no way the truth about this could be covered up. [...] In my conversation with Mrs. Wisher I brought up the fact that Chris said he knew personally a girl who was coerced into changing her testimony by Sheriffs investigators, and made to say that she had only seen Harris and Klebold. Mrs. Wisher replied: “Oh, I know the girl. She was over here right after...” (the questioning). She told us all about it, but you know, this was right after the massacre....”
There is really no telling at this point exactly how much of the official story of Columbine and the background surrounding it is myth and misdirection. However, there is some precedent for the staging of mass shootings like Columbine by groups based within the State for political ends, the Gladio shootings in Western Europe being a prime example.
You can find out more about this and other shootings through materials on my web site, http://www.EvanLong.net, which is also accessible by the shortcuts, http://www.EvanLong.tk and http://www.TheColumbineCause.tk.Interviews with witnesses who reported other gunmen at the Columbine shooting.... more
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11 Years Later, Misconceptions Remain
Hello, my name's Evan Long and I'm reporting for EvanLong.tk and TheColumbineCause.tk. Today is Tuesday, 18 May 2010. The topic of this video is Columbine, DOOM and Marilyn Manson: 11 Years Later, Misconceptions Remain.
One of the most popular topics in the media analysis of the Columbine High School shootings was the possible role played by violent first-person shoot 'em up video games such as DOOM, and by recordings made by Church of Satan reverend Brian Warner, a. k. a. Marilyn Manson. Whatever the actual role of these influences in causing the shooting, a couple of myths have surfaced regarding these topics and the purpose of this video is to offer some alternative information on that. In particular, we're going to be looking at the notion that accused killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did not listen to Marilyn Manson and also that they did not code a level of DOOM to resemble Columbine High School.
Regarding the DOOM thread, this topic was featured on a web site called Snopes.com which claims to dispel urban legends. According to an article written by Barbara Mikkelson, who runs the site with her husband, it is, quote, "false" that Eric Harris, who liked to play and create levels for DOOM, created a level that resembled Columbine High School. Furthermore, the article ads, no one should even bother looking for motive in this case; instead, we should merely accept that Harris was Satan incarnate and leave it at that.
Likewise, when it was suggested that the Columbine shootings had been influenced by Brian Warner's recordings, such as "Misery Machine," perhaps, which features the chorus, "My arms are wheels, my legs are wheels and blood is pavement," Warner himself was given space in Rolling Stone magazine to refute the claims, citing, quote, "responsible journalists" who had reported that Harris and Klebold did not his listen to his group. Although Warner cited no names, one journalist who did put forth this notion is Dave Cullen, author of the quote-unquote "definitive" book on Columbine, simply titled, Columbine, who wrote that, quote, "Harris and Klebold hated Marilyn Manson."
However, there is a large body of government documents related to the Columbine High School shootings which began to emerge in 2000 as a result of some survivors' dissatisfaction with the official findings known as Sheriff's Office Final Report on the Columbine High Shootings. The documents are comprised of witness interviews, intelligence on suspects from their peers and other information. These documents have not received much publicity and have not been widely read. However, they contain a great deal of information about the circumstances of the shooting, including information about both DOOM and Marilyn Manson.
Regarding DOOM, it is stated on page 7,043 of the documents that then-CHS student David Proctor, who had played the game with Harris and Klebold via modem several times, told police that, quote, "earlier this year [1999] Harris had told him he designed a level of Doom that was Columbine High School." Regarding Marilyn Manson, on page 26,113 is an essay allegedly written by Eric Harris in which the reader is exhorted to really "HEAR" the music he or she listens to. In it, there is a short list of bands the author apparently finds appealing. The sentence reads, in part, quote, "Songs from bands like RAMMSTEIN, KMFDM, NIN, M. M." In this context, "NIN" and "M. M." can only mean "Nine Inch Nails" and "Marilyn Manson," and since they are listed right next to KMFDM and Rammstein, which were widely known to have been among Harris' favorite groups, we must assume that he did hold some fondness for them.
Compared to some of the other information found in these files, however, this information could be considered to be of extremely low importance overall. For instance, in the main body of witness interviews, a section known as "11,000 Pages of Investigative Files," are found nearly one hundred separate instances of witnesses naming or describing in detail participants in the attack other than Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.
The complete list of these is far too long to examine right now but to take a few specific examples, then-student Ashley Egeland, who was in a hallway when the shooting started, told police and gave a signed statement that she was shot at by Eric Harris and someone else whose name was redacted. However, we see on another page in Ashley's interviews that the name she gave was Morris, which tells us that she was naming Chris Morris, a friend of Harris and Klebold and the reported leader of the trench coat group in 1999.
Another witness was Cara Sander, who told friends and police that one of the gunmen she saw was decidedly not Harris or Klebold and later identified him as Brian Sargent, another trench coat mafia member.
Bijen Monte was another witness, one of many who named former student Robert Perry, a very tall young man with bad acne, as one of the shooters and still more implicated a shooter named "Joe," which is especially significant since former student and trench coat mafia leader Joe Stair was reportedly spotted on campus that morning by witness Leiha Murphy.
Even more disturbing than any of these, however, may be reports of an older gunman in his late 20's or 30's who appeared to be balding stalking the science halls with a sawed-off shotgun, as described by witnesses including then-student Jennifer Smull.
No mainstream Columbine books or videos address this information in any sort of respectable way, when they address it at all. As such, the history of the Columbine High School shootings still remains to be discovered by most, even those who may consider themselves well-versed on the subject.
Once again, my name is Evan Long and I'm reporting for EvanLong.tk and TheColumbineCause.tk.11 Years Later, Misconceptions Remain
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Hello, my name is Evan Long and I'm the creator of a presentation called "The Columbine Cause: An Examination of the April 20, 1999 Attack on Columbine High School."
This April, on the eleventh anniversary of the Columbine High School shootings, a political group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns ran ads promoting gun control laws on the basis that the Columbine massacre would have been prevented had the laws that they are advocating been in place. Here is a clip from their ad:
[ad plays: "1999. The Columbine school massacre. The killers got their guns because of a gap in the law called the gun show loophole."]
However, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold officially used four guns in the shooting. The first was a TEC-9 pistol which had officially been sold to them by a co-worker and therefore, that gun did not come from a gun show. The other three guns, two shotguns and a rifle, had officially been bought at a gun show but had been bought by a school friend of Harris and Klebold who was over 18 at the time and who could have passed any background check.
Besides these points, Eric Harris was born on April 9, 1981, making him 18 over a week before the shooting. Since Harris was not an illegal immigrant, a dishonorably discharged military veteran, had not been convicted of domestic assault or felony charges, was not under indictment for felony charges, and did not have outstanding misdemeanor or felony warrants against him, he most likely would have also passed a background check. Of course, this is to say nothing of the myriad pipe bombs and other lethal explosives which were also used in the attack.
Whether or not you support gun control in any form, it's not right to misrepresent crimes for political ends. In making this campaign and running these ads, the Mayors Against Illegal Guns have shown us that they have either done no research on the Columbine attack, they are mentally incompetent, or that they don't really care about the facts behind Columbine and they are trying to manipulate and trick us into supporting their campaign by lying to us. Does this group deserve anyone's trust and support?
Once again, my name's Evan Long. For more information about the Columbine High School shootings, please visit TheColumbineCause.tk.http://www.TheColumbineCause.tk/
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Unraveling the Sheriff's Official Line
13 December 2009
Columbine Researcher Rolf Zaeschmar
on School Shootings and More
This program consists primarily of audio content and is 31 minutes in length.
"Rolf Zaeschmar is a longtime Columbine shooting researcher who's been on the case for over ten years. His many writings on the internet, often posted under the handle, "Starviego", have introduced whole new audiences to a relatively unpublicized side of the attack, one which has been derived from the government documents related to it. In addition to working with the Columbine evidence, Rolf has also made connections between the profiles of other "random rage" spree killings such as Red Lake, Virginia Tech and Northern Illinois University. His work deserves the attention of anyone interested in any aspect of the mass shooting phenomenon which plagues society today. Rolf was good enough to talk to me and give his thoughts on the Columbine shootings and related events..."
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Over the years the mother of Columbine High School shooter Dylan Klebold has declined requests for interviews. More than 10 years after the massacre that took the lives of 12 students, one teacher and injured 24 others Susan Klebold is finally telling her story.Over the years the mother of Columbine High School shooter Dylan Klebold has declined... more
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DENVER – Parents and survivors of the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School are saying good things about an essay released Tuesday by the mother of shooter Dylan Klebold.
Susan Klebold made the most detailed public remarks by any parent of the two Columbine killers in an essay published in O, The Oprah Magazine. She said in the essay she had "no inkling" her son was suicidal or depressed.
The essay sparked strong emotions for Connie Michalik, whose son, Richard Castaldo, was shot and partially paralyzed in the rampage. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 23 others before killing themselves.
The shooters' parents have said little in public since the massacre. They gave depositions in a lawsuit filed by victims' families, but a judge in 2007 ordered those depositions sealed for 20 years after the case was settled out of court.
Survivors and their families have been left wondering about the boys' parents in the decade since the shootings.
"You know, I always wondered how she felt and what she went through. 'Cause I know I went through a living hell, and I was always sure she did, too," Michalik told The Associated Press.
Michalik, who has never met Susan Klebold, said reading the essay answered some of her questions about the Klebold family.
"I applaud her for the courage to talk about this," Michalik said Tuesday.
In the essay, Susan Klebold described the day of the shooting. She at first feared Dylan had been shot at school, not that he was one of the perpetrators.
Susan Klebold said the family was evacuated from their home the afternoon of the massacre because authorities feared even Dylan's residence may have been rigged to explode. Still, she said, it took months for relatives to accept that the quiet boy who loved origami and Legos was to blame for the violence.
"We didn't know that he and Eric had assembled an arsenal of explosives and guns," Susan Klebold wrote. "We believed his participation in the massacre was accidental or that he had been coerced. We believed that he did not intend to hurt anyone."
The magazine released excerpts from the essay last week and published the full text Tuesday.
A magazine spokeswoman said Susan Klebold has turned down several interview requests over the years but agreed several months ago to share an essay. There were no plans for her to appear on the show.
In an introduction to the essay, Oprah Winfrey told readers, "Since the day her son participated in the most devastating high school shooting America has ever seen, I have wanted to sit down with Susan Klebold to ask her the questions we've all wanted to ask — starting with, 'How did you not see it coming?' and ending with 'How did you survive?'"
A spokeswoman for Susan Klebold has said there would be no further comment.
One of the shooting's survivors, Krystal Miller, said Tuesday she has long had questions for the Klebolds but understood their silence.
"Over the years I would've loved to hear something," said Miller, whose maiden name was Krystal Woodman. "But it sounds like she is still just reeling from it and processing it. So how is someone supposed to come out and give answers when they're still trying to figure it out themselves?"DENVER – Parents and survivors of the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School are... more
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