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In the future, there will be the return of railroads and I couldn't be happier!

I've already explained in another article that I think it's time that U.S. really starts considering a larger network of high-speed railways because of our current airline problems. I know it's being implemented in California and in Texas but with all the problems lately with air travel from masturbating passengers to too hot fliers, we need a new mode of transportation across the board.

Also, well established high speed rail systems in use today are more environmentally friendly than air or road travel. This is due to lower energy consumption per passenger kilometer, reduced land usage for a given capacity compared to motorways, and displaced usage from more environmentally damaging modes of transport. In fact, I'm sure more study into it could make it even more eco-friendly.

I don't know why Americans think flight is our only mode of transportation. I know it's quicker but the prices are rising and the courtesy you once got on a flight is now diminishing. Flight understandable when going overseas or even across country but we've got find new efficient ways to get around.



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34 comments // Trains are coming back in style!

  • AnnieChauPIRG
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    • The U.S. Public Interest Research Group (PIRG) is committed to empowering citizens to create their own media. One effort to do so involves improving public transportation by helping to make it work faster and cleaner for all of us.

      We are calling on citizens to create videos of their visions for 21st century transit and we would appreciate your support in our endeavor by making your own video! Check out our sample one... http://www.uspirg.org/transit-video-contest

      The videos will be used as evidence of the public's support for public transportation and will let decision-makers in Washington, D.C. know that they need to make this issue a priority. Entrants have a shot at winning $500.

      If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me Annie Chau at Annie.Chau@pirg.org or (202) 546-9470.

      Thank you for joining us in our cause.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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    • Here is something I drew and I am envisioning for the future and for high speed trains. The train will not have direct contact with the outside environment in most cases. On the top and sides this tube will be transparent to the viewer passengers so everyone would enjoy and see the outside. Since the train would ran suspended; so speak; in an isolate environment there will be no environmental acoustic impact on the near by population. Tell me what you think?

      http://current.com/items/88876237_teaching_engineers_sensorial_sciences

    • 3 years ago
  • MornRail
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      MornRail  
    • Might I add that recent advances have led to aerodynamic designs to reduce drag, lift, and noise. And that's what it's about: advances. I'm sure that once the ball gets rolling, the outstanding technology of Japan coupled with the brainiacs we have here in the US can lead to some amazing results in a new era of transportation.

    • 3 years ago
  • MornRail
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    • stopnoise, there is no "fantasizing". I believe your fight is something different. A fight that is definitely important in our metro cities but what is offered on the table here is our environment, getting off our dependency to oil, and enjoying travel again.

      Don't think these issues have not been brought up before. Consider the 447 page research "Noise and Vibration from High-speed Trains" by Victor Krylov, a member of the UK Institute of Acoustics Research Coordination Committee. His expertise lies in physical acoustics and its applications to engineering problems.
      Consider conferences on noise rail control here: http://www.uic.asso.fr/environnement/article.php3?id_article=56

      No, I cannot point out for you the mistakes made by earlier rail roads but I'm sure they are aplenty as is the case with science and technology. However, it is those mistakes that are improved upon year after year. From noisy, gas-guzzling Model t's to efficient, quiet Prius'. And to think!, Prius' are only the beginning. Science is building upon that as well to make it better.

      Yes, it takes the gov't to get these projects off the ground. They're the ones who supply the money. However, it is the engineers who make it work. As someone who is deeply rooted in engineering, it is a passion to care about what innovations do for our environment; whether it be unsafe, unhealthy, acoustic pollution, or just a plain bad idea, that comes first. Because what is an innovation if it continues to hurt our lives and future generations?

      As I previously stated, it'd be great for those who have experienced high-speed railways to give an opinion. You just can't rely on the scientists and how cool it sounds. It has to be tested and tried and I would like not only the positives, but the negatives as well. We cannot write off one big idea when we lack the initiative to research it. It is only when we see the problem we can fix it.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • "MornRail," Nice the way you put it, but in your picture you are showing something very different. It is great to fantasize about things but we should look the reality of our crazy part of our government that have been lobbied to death with an acoustic policy that favors noise, more noise. Here in San Francisco we are in the hands of an acoustic psychopath working for the government orchestrating the new urban acoustic transportation invasion happening for over 7 (seven) years right under everyones eyes and ears. Maybe you can point to me a mistake done to the early and last rail road track here in the United States. You see these guys are engineers and they suppose to know better. That just prove that there are no academic rankings that will save us from their mistakes and acoustic chaos. Maybe we should have an office in the Government called:
      "Government Office of Eternal Mistakes"

    • 3 years ago
  • Varex_Sythe
  • MornRail
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      MornRail  
    • I suppose I forgot to bring it up as I've grown up around trains in my neighborhood. I've also spent time in Chicago with my grandmother with a home very close to the "L". I guess they ran like lullabies in the night for me.

      However, I understand that noise pollution is just as important to keep under control especially for those who don't find it as pleasing as me. There can also be issues of homes going down in value. I don't think this article is just about bringing back old-school technology or dinosaur technology. It's about the innovation to make these trains run smoother and more efficient. It's looking at a whole new way of passenger travel and that might not include ALL the mechanics of yesteryear.

      You use the words "dinosaur" and "old", stopnoise. But I think this is about a "new" era of travel. A "new" era of transportation and I believe a lot of thought will go into that.

      It'd be interesting for those who commented about the rail systems in Europe and Japan to tell us how they feel about them and what makes them great by their first-hand knowledge. Hell, it'd be great for Current European or Japanese users to tell us their experience riding their rail systems and possibly shed light on not only the pros, but the cons. Anyone?

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • No one here mentioned the nightmare of living near trains and how they acoustically affect lives with their notorious 1-3 miles range horn. I receive lots of emails from people all over US complaing about train noise. Evidently no one here lives near a rail road track and Thanks to the Reagan Administration now we have a generation willing to deny noise as a health and environmental issue. I am for the best technology we can get but I am not willing to support an USA dinosaur technology of old rail road trains.

    • 3 years ago
  • ultravphunter
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      ultravphunter  
    • I hope trains get more popularity. Otherwise, they'll fade out, and then become more expensive, and then fade out even more...an endless cycle.

    • 3 years ago
  • digitrash
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    • For all the futurist train geeks out there... Here's more awesome video simulations of the proposed California High Speed Rail project. (just the trains, no politicians talking!)

    • 3 years ago
  • alman365
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      alman365  
    • i agree completely. not only will it make travel easier for those using it, but also the ones who need to drive only a few minutes or perhaps a little longer. it would reduce emissions and encourage other forms of mass-transit like busses too and from the train station, all of which will help travel time and make traveling less of an annoyance!

    • 3 years ago
  • patsarts
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      patsarts  
    • I've wondered for years why the train systems in the USA are in such trouble. Friends of ours have switched to train travel for vacations - no long lines, no overbooked seats, no fear of flying. It does take longer to get where you're going, but once you consider having to arrive at the airport two hours hearly, lengthy drives to the airport and delayed flights - not so much.

    • 3 years ago
  • Egnatius212
  • Frobot
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    • Do the math;

      It takes 4 hours to drive to Vegas by car without traffic from Los Angles

      It takes one hour to fly but, you need to be there an hour before, call that 2 hours

      You need to drive to LAX call it 30 Minutes on a very good day, it usually takes one hour

      Then you need to drive from the airport to get to you destination; 30 Min.

      So you save about 30-60 minutes and you get the added comfort of knowing the airline is going to treat you like a bag of crap. Lets not forget a very likely chance of a long delay.

      With high speed rail the same trip will take about 2 hours or less, with no traffic and a smaller environmental impact.

      This country needs to invest in the future.

    • 3 years ago
  • chet_arthur
  • blackdaylight
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    • solar/electric cars, trains, & boats are definitely the waves of the future if we intend to continue life here on earth.
      mass transit is super important & with all of the airlines merging & going out of business i can very easily see a dystopian future where only the wealthy & well connected are able to afford air travel.

    • 3 years ago
  • ipodrulz
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      ipodrulz  
    • Solar Powered Trains! Electric Cars! The technology is here, can we honestly stop holding on to hold bad habits! Make a change, and save our earth?

    • 3 years ago
  • CarolynGillis
  • devo64
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      devo64  
    • I agree MornRail, this country needs to get on the ball with a national transportation system that would be most cost efferent over cars and planes. With airline companies going bankrupt by the bunches again and fuel prices through the roof I don't know why Amtrak hasn't been heavily improved upon. It's system is in disarray right now and needs reform.

      So true KosterK7, and when we get our light rail system in 2009 it'll be all the better.

    • 3 years ago
  • MornRail
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      MornRail  
    • MM, that's a really interesting point you brought up about small towns. I've never really thought about how it could help the economy for them.

      It sort of reminded me of the movie "Cars" where Radiator Springs starting failing once the interstate highway was built. Silly thing to refer to but yeah. If we had these railways running through small communities and towns maybe we'll finally take the time to appreciate and contribute to them. I definitely see myself spending a good 30 minutes buying weird niknacks while on my way to my destination.

      diode, I totally hear what you're saying. However, we had so many rails (abandoned and still working) that I feel that all would be needed is to fix them up and get them going. I think there are a lot of lonely railways just waiting to be used. My knowledge on it isn't very much so it'd be interesting to how that works or how it doesn't work.

    • 3 years ago
  • KosterK7
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      KosterK7  
    • I live in Seattle and LOVE taking the train down to Portland... It's the best way to go!! Really, let's get the trains going again!! I'M FOR IT!

    • 3 years ago
  • digitrash
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      digitrash  
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    • With the rising cost of fuel, Americans are already seeking out alternatives to driving and flying. High-speed rail's appeal will only grow as the cost of fuel rises.

      Ridership on California's existing "San Joaquin" Amtrak service is up almost 27% over last year (The San Joaquins serve much of the same route that the proposed high-speed trains will serve). See more data on the link.

    • 3 years ago
  • DJSoundBored
  • diode
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      diode  
    • the only problem with a rail system is that our infrastructure has basically already been built and it would be very hard to make a railway feasible. maybe in the future metropolises if it was incorporated into the building plans would it be plausible

    • 3 years ago
  • MornRail
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      MornRail  
    • And here's to hoping you guys get that bond passed! That was a really great video you shared, digitrash. I looked at the site and it was interesting to read that the California High Speed Rail Authority has been planning high-speed rail for almost a decade. It'd be great to see it get started and possibly inspire other states to make the move as well.

      AngelicEnforcer, that was a very good point you brought up. I'm hoping that the train operators will still be paid well and hopefully with more benefits as well. I think there could be chance that with the influx of people getting in on this business, that more incentives will be brought to the table. I guess I'm a bit optimistic but I see it happening.

    • 3 years ago
  • digitrash
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      digitrash  
    • A bond measure to build California's much-needed high-speed rail project comes up to voters this November for the third time. Here's hoping the third time is the charm! Check out the video simulations on the project's website.

    • 3 years ago
  • AngelicEnforcer
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      AngelicEnforcer  
    • Train operators or drivers get paid very well in the states because they're isn't much of a need for them like there use to be. But now that going to change.

    • 3 years ago
  • Allsunday
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      Allsunday  
    • I've been waiting for this! I always love the high-speed trains in Europe, and it's so disappointing that we don't have any here in the US. It would be such a nice way to travel, and likely cheaper than most flights. I'm crossing my fingers for new railroad infrastructure!

    • 3 years ago
  • Marilynn_Murray
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      Marilynn_Murray  
    • My thoughts exactly MornRail. I believe a big public works project for a fast rail system should be implemented as soon as the next President takes office. We need it, and the environment needs it and it needs started immediately. That would certainly boost the sagging economy and bring back some failing towns.

    • 3 years ago
  • barsuk
  • MornRail
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    • Here's an example of it being implemented in New Mexico. This is only an example of commuter rail, however Gov. Bill Richardson has made it an important part of his administration.

      Currently, they are adding service to Sante Fe that will be completed by the end of 2008.

      As someone who is from San Antonio, I think this would be a great addition throughout our state of Texas. Dallas is a mere 4 hours by car from SA. Austin only an hour and Houston about 3 hours. All these cities have horrible congestion and that's in part because of people visiting family and friends, going in and out of these metro areas. It'd be interesting to see how this would change getting around TX.

      Where are you from and how do you think it'd help your state?

    • 3 years ago
  • MornRail
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      MornRail  
    • What do you think? Will it actually work? Will our government shell out for this endeavor? Do you think there will be a significant change in how we get around and our environment?

    • 3 years ago
  • barsuk
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      barsuk  
    • MornRail:

      You can't be serious. Do you even know how much it costs to ride. And once it takes you there ...THEN WHAT. It's a sham and the joke is on the American People for letting this happen!

    • 3 years ago
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