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Rant all you want in a public park. A police officer generally won't eject you for your remarks alone, however unpopular or provocative.

Say it on the Internet, and you'll find that free speech and other constitutional rights are anything but guaranteed.

Companies in charge of seemingly public spaces online wipe out content that's controversial but otherwise legal. Service providers write their own rules for users worldwide and set foreign policy when they cooperate with regimes like China. They serve as prosecutor, judge and jury in handling disputes behind closed doors.
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45 comments // Freedom of speech not guaranteed online

  • cheecha1986
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      cheecha1986  
    • The internet is like any other type of media. Once the government sees that people are learning too much "valuable" information, they try their hardest to take over public thought. When the internet was first brought into my home in the early nineties, you could find anything you wanted. However, now, with all of these corporate ownrd web enhancers like yahoo and google, you are going to have alot omitted results. People will find it hard to find real information about those things that our government wants to keep hush hush. Plus, with everybody wanting to make easy money, it will cost you to get any of the results that you searched for.

    • 3 years ago
  • Arsenal4Life
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      Arsenal4Life  
    • "RELATIVE FREE SPEECH" is what they will probably add into the constitution both here in America and world wide. As the internet becomes bigger and bigger, more government agencies will want to monitor what is being said and by whom. The Patriot Act is an example of the relative free speech. One can get silenced and/or put into jail for blogging or expressing ones opinion. Key words and phrases are targeted within a database that searches the internet just like google or yahoo does and then rates it whether its mild or radical speech. Therefore one becomes a target for the government to monitor and in no time if the government deems it necessary to shut you down then it will. Its a sad reality what the world is coming to but the fight must go on!!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • ebdotkom
  • PaperTigerTrax
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      PaperTigerTrax  
    • Freedom is NEVER guaranteed. If we as a people don't do all that we can to make sure trhat this stays an open forum for the exchange of ideas and information, then we'll have no one to blame for it's loss, but ourselves.

    • 3 years ago
  • yonie
  • anglcazn
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      anglcazn  
    • China does this but America feels the right to scold the Chinese government of being "undemocratic" and stirring up anti-Chinese sentiments. How hypocritical..

    • 3 years ago
  • Future_America
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      Future_America  
    • The 1st amendment says that Congress shall make no law restricting free speech. As longs as the government is not censoring speech then it is legal. Technically it is unconstitutional for the FCC to censor speech on TV and radio.

    • 3 years ago
  • poche
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      poche  
    • It starts off with us not having guarantees to write of speech online. Soon after, we won't be able to protest on the streets. If this isn't met with much resistance, we'll end up like the citizens of Iran where blogging, if the government has their way, may be punishable by death.

    • 3 years ago
  • silently_sarah
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      silently_sarah  
    • Lets not forget the beauty of the Internet though. You can still make your own site or place to share your views and decide if you want to give others proxy to it as well. Don't agree with stifling other peoples free speech? Make your own place for them to gather uncensored.

    • 3 years ago
  • Burns4ANewWorld
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      Burns4ANewWorld  
    • Mass media has it's hands in everything we technologically perceive and our response to their perceptions. The fact is, the more we rely on technology to think for us, the more self-control we lose. Watching the everyday news and absorbing whatever is thrown at us will lead to nothing but mass control. It is our job to be active if we want change and that would not be possible without our American freedoms. Organizations like Current TV are proof that it is the people that control their opinions and their desire to have their voice heard.

    • 3 years ago
  • power_packed_ro
  • GEG
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      GEG  
    • I believe in the rights of the people as well as freedom of liberty, but we still have to be careful of what we say not only in print, but what we post online. One word or comment, someone could take it offensively and the wrong way.

    • 3 years ago
  • regularrf
  • rickm8
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      rickm8  
    • uhm, well the right to free speech isnt uphelp in the private sector, just like the gov. cant "profile" but establishments have the right to refuse service to anyone they wish. if a company owns it, you have no say, their choice. thats free market capitalism woo

    • 3 years ago
  • Dmitri_Molotov
  • Argon18
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • They aren't actually limiting the rights because the Net never had them.

      Just like you can say whatever you want in someone's house but they have the right to make you stop or throw you out of their house if they don't like it.

      The same as the people who own the web sites have the right to kick you off of them if they don't like your behaviour.

      The free part the Net that should be fought for is the connections between websites that should be neutral of how data is distributed since that's the public part like you have the right to speak out in a public park without harassment since it belongs to no single person because it was paid for by public funds.

    • 3 years ago
  • flyingkick
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      flyingkick  
    • Argon18:

      Well, you can practice your right to free speech on the net, you just have to use your own server and put up your own site.
      I remember when craigslist was going through some terms of service changes a while back and a lot of users were complaining about free speech violations. Which is ridiculous because the site is privately owned, they can censor whatever they feel like for what ever reason.

    • 3 years ago
  • Argon18
  • jarratt
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      jarratt  
    • this makes me think of a part of this years Best American Non-required reading - the part that talks about "what is your dangerous idea" - one person's dangerous idea is that ideas themselves will be dangerous - we can't have a free society unless all opinions are allowed, whether or not they conflict with the things you feel most strongly about...

      i am confilcted over this because some videos should be taken down, like that one of the girl being beat up by the group of friends that invited her over, and the one of the marine throwing puppies off the cliff, again should be taken down

    • 3 years ago
  • Blazesboy
  • hollowman218
  • huffamoose2k
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      huffamoose2k  
    • It seems like the government has been limiting our various freedoms in a number of ways in the past 7 or 8 years. We need to fight for our rights!

    • 3 years ago
  • orangeseverywhere
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      orangeseverywhere  
    • generally speaking, internet users have the freedom to access the lawful content of their choice. imposing unconstitutional limitations on license applications (such as mandatory filters that censor lawful content) violates people's right to free speech...although, the thought of a completely autonomous world wide web spells trouble.

    • 3 years ago
  • Brockie
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      Brockie  
    • I don't know. I can only speak from my own experience. In all the years I've been on line. And all the various places I've posted comments. I've never had anything erased by the host of the site. Or been barred from a site. Or had my access to a site blocked. But on the other hand, I don't go to sites hosted in China or Iran and try to post anti government slogans...

    • 3 years ago
  • street_smart
  • aschneider
  • iskandhar
  • AVtime
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      AVtime  
    • It certainly is true that we don't have unlimited free speech on the internet. However, this is based more on the practical infrastructure of the net, than on corroded civil liberties. The ISPs, site owners, and global routing mainframes which constitute the internet itself are all owned by private companies, not the American public, and as such, are not the purview of the First Amendment. Complaining that we don't have the right to free speech in these venues is akin to complaining that we can't go into a Barney's and deride their products for fear of being kicked out.

      I'm okay with that. It ensures that small business owners can exercise the right to function autonomously, that we don't have to provide a soapbox for every person in our own, private spaces.

      The internet lacks a truly publicly-owned space, akin to the public park you describe. There could be one, owned and maintained by a uniquely federalized site / server / router organization. It's certainly an interesting idea. But, can you imagine what a disaster such a place would be? Part of our unspoken, unwritten, social laws, are based on the condition of accountability. You can stand next to anyone in the park and make your own rants, in real time, meaning everyone can listen to you as well.

      The bizarre experience of the internet, on the other hand, is its essential anonymity. Hence flame wars.

      As a dues-paying member of the ACLU and EFF, I'm all for free speech. But only when it has a Constitutional basis.

    • 3 years ago
  • Blazesboy
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      Blazesboy  
    • AVtime:

      You make some good points, but you're overlooking a couple of things.

      First of all, the Internet was originally government-created. It was then connected to other, commercial networks. So it's kind of a hybrid of government- and private-created infrastructure; one that would not exist at all, however, if the American taxpayer hadn't ponied up for it in the first place.

      The Internet is a much different beast today, of course, but these origins ought to be taken into account in this discussion. After all, the government allowed the original network to expand, in the name of research and, eventually, commerce.

      Secondly, when you speak of the constitutionality of something, bear in mind that such things are hardly fixed in stone. Just because the current understanding is that the First Amendment right to free speech does not extend to privately-owned spaces (such as a mall), does not mean that this will always be so, or that such a decision is the "correct" one.

      It seems likely to me that the problem of free speech online will be taken up by the courts more and more in the coming years.

    • 3 years ago
  • AVtime
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      AVtime  
    • AVtime:

      Well said. I completely agree.

      I was trying to point out that it's hard to draw an analogy between public, physical spaces, and electronic ones, for all the reasons you and I describe - and it's a tricky situation trying to apply the laws based in the former, to the latter.

      Now if only we could design laws flexible and comprehensive enough to keep pace with our technology!

    • 3 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • I will do what I deem right within the idea of free speech and not harming others physically.

      I already do that. I'm prepared to have my head cut of by the screaming Queen of Hearts at any moment. ha.

    • 3 years ago
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • It's not a "guarantee" across the Net, it's only on a site by site basis. Some places have heavy restrictions and some are relatively open about it. All have rules of netiquette to keep the site in some sense of order.

    • 3 years ago
  • pressrecord
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      pressrecord  
    • yea i was fired for having a blog entry criticizing obvious corruption in the company i worked at. although i never mentioned any names or where i work, it was still deemed by the labor judge that i don't have free speech on the internet. what bullshit!

    • 3 years ago
  • Blazesboy
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      Blazesboy  
    • pressrecord:

      Were you writing on a company blog? (That is, a blog operated by the company you worked for?)

      If not, your being fired is not an example of the squelching of free speech. I mean, it sounds like you were free to write and post - but your words got you fired. Free speech doesn't mean there are never any consequences for what you say, just that you can't be stopped from saying it. (Just because you have the right to call someone an asshole, doesn't mean he isn't going to knock your teeth out - not that that would be legal, either.)

      However, if you live in the U.S., there are federal whistleblower laws in place that make it a crime for companies to take action against employees who "blow the whistle" on corporate malfeasance. If that's really what happened...

      Of course, you'd have to have proof, not just be disgruntled.

    • 3 years ago
  • flyingkick
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      flyingkick  
    • pressrecord:

      It depends on who owns the site you blogged on. If it was owned by the corporation that you worked for and fired you than yeah, that's their right. They can sensor anything they want on their property.

    • 3 years ago
  • jahbini
  • cerealforeal
  • PajamaDan
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      PajamaDan  
    • Despite what we are "guaranteed", what we really have is "Relatively Free Speech". Say what you want, unless it infringes someone else's rights, borders on illegal, or any of the other free speech stipulations.
      And this is both unfortunate AND fortunate!

    • 3 years ago
  • FallenMorgan
  • TheCocoon
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      TheCocoon  
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    • The internet is so important now for us to get to what is really going on. We MUST fight for our freedom to exchange our thoughts, information and be free to express everything we want .PLEASE someone do something to save the freedom of cyber space !!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • damush
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      damush  
    • Take advantage of it now because when you start paying for your ISP; freedom of speech over the internet will make you a terrorist.

    • 3 years ago
  • Blazesboy
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