Dell says Apple is greenwashing its gear
source: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/12/dell-says-apple-is-greenwashing-its-gear.php
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Unless you've been under a rock, or are utterly uninterested in computers, you haven't missed Apple's latest ads touting the greenness of its products. Dell, however, says that's a bunch of huff and puff.
Bob Pearson, Dell's VP of Communities and Conversations (you can have a VP for that??), says that Apple is being irresponsible to the earth by making false claims for how green it is and hoping consumers won't notice. Apple, along with Dell and HP, are perceived to be the greenest computer companies, so the two are direct competitors for the up-and-coming greener consumer base.
And now, the blogosphere is abuzz with the latest entry to Dell's blog knocking Apple for what it says are green fake-outs.
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stevieuk
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not something i ever think about is 'how green is my pc' and nor to be honest have i ever noticed any claims of this from any of them so i can only assume this tells you that none of them are very green
- 2 years ago
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stevieuk
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middle_east
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Oh, and none of these companies give a shit about being "green." The only green they are concerned with is money.
- 3 years ago
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middle_east
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middle_east
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I have a Dell and it sucks.
- 3 years ago
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middle_east
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manhattan_project
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if you take all the iphones and i pods and imacs and the rest of the icrap and consider that they sell like crazy, you'd figure that all of that is plastic won't decompose well and captain planet won't approve.
- 3 years ago
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manhattan_project
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bertomanfred
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who cares mac kills dell anyday lol APPLE is numero uno! green or not handsdown number one.
- 3 years ago
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bertomanfred
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m4l1c3
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it will be ok dell...in the new world of computing you can still make your expensive paper weights
- 3 years ago
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m4l1c3
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Lippey
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Hey at least Mac has a video to show what their computer is made of, as well as how it is made.
I got one, and green or not, its effing sweet. It blows my old Compaq out of the water.
- 3 years ago
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Lippey
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ahowes
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greenpeace rankings:
dell- 4.7
hp- 4.5
apple- 4.3those scores are out of 10. basically, they all suck and should shut up and get their sh*t together. apple stop running the adds. dell quit your whining and give us an actual reason to buy your products.
- 3 years ago
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ahowes
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pinkerbelle
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I think that this is yet another marketing scheme. Mac's are doing extremely well now that Microsoft Vista proves to be the most horrible development by Microsoft...so far. And Dell just wants a share of the market.
Green or not green, I'd still go with the Apple notebook. Dell's are garbage!...I don't know if its because it runs on Microsoft, or the quality of it is just horrible. Plus, I don't think most people think about how environmentally friendly a laptop is before purchasing it anyway.
- 3 years ago
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pinkerbelle
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thehotlovemovement
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As long as Dell makes computers that run Microsoft products, Apple will win. Period. I don't care if Apple was made out of coal.
- 3 years ago
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thehotlovemovement
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Sam_the_Wizer
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thehotlovemovement:
Dell installs Ubuntu and OpenDOS too.
- 3 years ago
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Sam_the_Wizer
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freelancesamurai
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thehotlovemovement:
you mean freeDOS, To my knowledge it's actually what they ship by default, but I could be wrong.
- 3 years ago
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freelancesamurai
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jdeuel
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And yet both didn't give a hoot until 'green' turned into a marketing term.
- 3 years ago
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jdeuel
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islek
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jdeuel:
Actually, Steve Jobs has been environmentally conscious on at least a small level for some time now. When I visited the headquarters the cafeteria had a compost pile, for example. Maybe Dell has something like that too, but I haven't been to their headquarters.
Personally, I don't care if one is "greener" than the other. I'd prefer companies stop the senseless bickering and do what's best for the environment as promptly as they can.
- 3 years ago
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islek
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Neghie
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Is Apple claiming to have greener products, or that the company is green?
- 3 years ago
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Neghie
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Sam_the_Wizer
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Mac's cost more, and money is green (at least in some places). Does that mean Macs are greener?
- 3 years ago
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Sam_the_Wizer
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slr249
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For all that Apple is doing to attract customers by claiming to be greener than any other computer company, the fact of the matter is that Apple computers are better. I'm not just saying this as a devout Apple customer, it's simply true.
There are definitely ways in which PCs have always dominated. PCs are still the computers of business and office networks, but for personal computers, Apple is really starting to take a chunk out of consumer market.
The last thing that PCs, Dell especially, has going for them is that they're cheap. A person can get a laptop for $300. An Apple machine is going to set you back at least $1000 in most cases and that's at least. I just got a new MacBook Pro for $2000. But I know that with this purchase, I won't have to buy another computer for some time. My roommate bought a Dell laptop last year and it already crapped out on her.
The fact of the matter is that you get what you pay for and green or not, you're getting a better machine with a Mac.
- 3 years ago
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slr249
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kcfoxie
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I dunno. Apple's moved from heavy use of plastic to metals (recyclable), real glass screens (recyclable) and dell is using...plastic. Everywhere. In every line up.
Apple's metal casing on all computers really pushes them towards the greener of the bunch, but the plastic backed iphone was a bit of a kick in the groin. I LOVE my first gen with its metal backing.
On the flip side they have a LOT of excessive packing material; even if it is recycled material it's excessive. You didn't need to use plastic to wrap the cords, cover the screen, etc etc etc.
- 3 years ago
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kcfoxie
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Sons_Of_Liberty
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Has anyone actually ordered from Apple? If not, I would suggest you do before saying the story is false. It's not about the purchase, check what it shipped and the parts.
- 3 years ago
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Sons_Of_Liberty
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kylercoon
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Next time you write an article, use some quotes.
- 3 years ago
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kylercoon
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tbowman131
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the fact that dell vp's have time to blog about their competition should tell you something about their business model... instead of complaining about it, just make a better computer...
and as i type this on my new ultra-green macbook, i'm still happy with my purchase
- 3 years ago
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tbowman131
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justright
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It's all about the money, Dell isn't really concerned about the environment.
- 3 years ago
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justright
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ScratchyPants
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This is just another level of competition and an effort to lure consumers to one side or the other. Remember, sales across the board are suffering so resorting to these "tactics" shouldn't surprise anyone.
There's the issue of moral panic that has taken over our country and if a corporation can take advantage of it in some way, they will.
- 3 years ago
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ScratchyPants
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freelancesamurai
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and the curious bit is that according to greenpeace dell, HP and Apple are pretty much at the same level when it comes to green-ness:
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/consumer-electronics-not-so-green
- 3 years ago
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freelancesamurai
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stardate
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freelancesamurai:
And Greenpeace is pretty much at the level of an @sshole.
For them you are worse than the dirtiest power plant unless you agree with every single regulation they promote. For them Gore, of all people, was not green enough. OK. Idiots.
- 3 years ago
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stardate
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freelancesamurai
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freelancesamurai:
Al Gore is curiously on the board of directors of Apple, btw.
- 3 years ago
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freelancesamurai
